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Hopkins
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Posted - 21/03/2015 :  00:50:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lorne -
In Heddal/Hitterdal, Telemark, Norway you've entered another district which has a bygdebok which has been copied to microform. The same book by O.H. Holta as is discussed above -- “Hitterdals-Boken: Gaarde og Slegter”.

This book has been copied to microfiche by the LDS Family History Library and can be ordered to any of their family history centers near to you.
https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/144819?availability=Family%20History%20Library


I've used in the past myself. I found the style just a little different than others I've borrowed but still very very useful.
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 21/03/2015 :  18:10:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks again Hopkins.

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lornejohnson
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Posted - 09/06/2015 :  00:41:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have this new information from a cooperator doing a look-up in Sauherad Bydgebok for me. I'm trying to confirm that my 3rd Great Grandfather Johanes Halvorsen born 1793 and married to Gunild Nilsdatter Kleven had parents Halvar Olsen born 1764 and Liv Johansdat. born 1776. Everything seemed to be in place until I received the information (copied below) which indicates that THEIR son Johanes Halvorsen born 1793 married a Kari Jonsdat. NOT Gunild Nilsdatter Kleven. Seems I've got the wrong lineage for MY Johanes Halvorsen. .... Any help on this please.


Halvor Olsson 1767-1835 was married 1793 to Liv Johannesd. From Tveiten (Sundsgvaala) 1771-1843. Ch: 1)Johannes 1793-1874, see next…

Here the book lists the rest of the children.



Johannes Halvorsson 1793-1874 was married 1835 to Kari Jonsd. From Aasen 1796-1871 (dotter of Jon Sveinungsson Aasen and Haelge Auversd. F Evju) Children: 1) Liv 1837-70, unmarried, 2) Halvor born 1845, see next. On the farm there is a family bible which Halvor has written in.

… Johannes halvorsson sold the farm in 1867 for 1975 dlr. To his son. Halvor Johannesson Akerhaugen 1845-1919, married 1866 to Gunhild Johannesd. From Sudistugu Haukvik 1835-1906. Children: …3) Johannes born 1871, see next, 4) Halvor born 1874, to America.



Please note that there is no mention of Johannes Halvorsson 1793 going to America. The only one is Halvor Halvorsson born 1874.





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jkmarler
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Posted - 09/06/2015 :  03:35:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the marriage of bachelor aged 42 yrs Johannes Halvorsen and Kari Jonsdatter #22:

Source information: Telemark county, Sauherad, Parish register (official) nr. I 6 (1827-1850), Marriage records 1835, page 241.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5982&idx_id=5982&uid=ny&idx_side=-241
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AntonH
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Posted - 09/06/2015 :  03:57:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably the family in the 1865 Norwegian Cesnus.

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=0822&kenr=007&bnr=0033&lnr=000
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AntonH
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Posted - 09/06/2015 :  04:40:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Now this looks like the names you described for the people you are looking for. It is not 1835 and it is Bo, Telemark

Name: Gunnild Nilsdr
Age: 23 years
Gender: Female
Birth Date: Ca.1795
Marriage Date: 17 nov 1818
Marriage Place: Bo, Telemark, Norway
Spouse: Johanes Halvorsen
Spouse's Age: 26 years
Spouse's Gender: Male
Spouse's Birth Date: Ca.1792

.Looked at from the grooms side.

Name: Johanes Halvorsen
Age: 26 years
Gender: Male
Birth Date: Ca.1792
Marriage Date: 17 nov 1818
Marriage Place: Bo, Telemark, Norway
Spouse: Gunnild Nilsdr
Spouse's Age: 23 years
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Birth Date: Ca.1795

Also see number 32

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1349&idx_id=1349&uid=ny&idx_side=-230



Edited by - AntonH on 09/06/2015 04:45:16
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AntonH
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Posted - 09/06/2015 :  05:14:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a potential candiate for your Gunhild Nilsdatter, See number 60.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7917&idx_id=7917&uid=ny&idx_side=-42

Probably Gunhild and her mother Sigri in the 1801 Norwegian Census. Father may be dead.

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01058310001312
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eibache
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Posted - 09/06/2015 :  07:46:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kari Johnsdatters parents, Jon Svenungsen and Helge Oversdatter were married Nov 14 1792, see 7th record from bottom of left page.

Kari Jonsdatter was baptized May 8 1796, see 13th record on left page.

Einar
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eibache
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Posted - 09/06/2015 :  07:56:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The marriage record for Halvor Olsen and Liv Johanesdatter is the 8th record on right page. They were married June 18 1793. Halvor was a corporal.

Their first child Johanes was baptized Dec 22 1793, see 5th record from bottom of left page. The parents were living at Lansverk.

Other cildren were:
Mari bapt Nov 26 1797
Anun bapt May 13 1799
Anne bapt Sep 13 1801
Hans bapt Aug 28 1803
Halvor bapt Jan 12 1807
Ole bapt. May 6 1810

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 09/06/2015 08:13:34
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 09/06/2015 :  07:58:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Now this looks like the names you described for the people you are looking for. It is not 1835 and it is Bo, Telemark

Name: Gunnild Nilsdr
Age: 23 years
Gender: Female
Birth Date: Ca.1795
Marriage Date: 17 nov 1818
Marriage Place: Bo, Telemark, Norway
Spouse: Johanes Halvorsen
Spouse's Age: 26 years
Spouse's Gender: Male
Spouse's Birth Date: Ca.1792

.Looked at from the grooms side.

Name: Johanes Halvorsen
Age: 26 years
Gender: Male
Birth Date: Ca.1792
Marriage Date: 17 nov 1818
Marriage Place: Bo, Telemark, Norway
Spouse: Gunnild Nilsdr
Spouse's Age: 23 years
Spouse's Gender: Female
Spouse's Birth Date: Ca.1795

Yes, these are my ancestors. I wanting to source his lineage. The lineage I have been using is NOT correct. Thank you.


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eibache
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Posted - 09/06/2015 :  09:26:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The marriage record for Johanes Halvorsen, Kleven Adskilt and Gunild Nilsdatter is #32.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 09/06/2015 09:27:45
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jkmarler
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Posted - 09/06/2015 :  10:35:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are all the Jo* Hal* born 1790s living in Telemark in 1801:

Johannes Halvorsen 1794* Deres børn Hvidesøe: Aase m Folketelling 1801 for 0829P Kviteseid prestegjeld

Joen Halvorsen 1795* Deres børn Ugift Hvidesøe: Tvetene Nordre m Folketelling 1801 for 0829P Kviteseid prestegjeld

John Halvorsen 1792* Hans børn af 2det ægteskab Tind: Miland Nedre m Folketelling 1801 for 0826P Tinn prestegjeld

Joe Halvorsen 1799* Deres sønner Laurdal: Espetvet m Folketelling 1801 for 0833P Lårdal prestegjeld

John Halvorsen 1793* Ejdanger: Silljen m Folketelling 1801 for 0813P Eidanger prestegjeld

Jon Halvorsen 1797* Søn Holden: Uhlefos Saugbrug m Folketelling 1801 for 0819P Holla prestegjeld

Joen Halvorsen 1794* Deres børn Ugivt Sillejord: Svartdahl Søndre eller Hougsvold m Folketelling 1801 for 0828P Seljord prestegjeld

Jon Halvorsen* 1793* Søn Winie: Høgset Hm. Plads m Folketelling 1801 for 0834P Vinje prestegjeld

Jon Halvorsen 1799* Deres børn Solum: Huustvedt m Folketelling 1801 for 0818P Solum prestegjeld

Johannes Halvorsen 1799* Deres børn Bøe: Folkestad Øvre m Folketelling 1801 for 0821P Bø prestegjeld

Johanes Halvorsen 1793* Børn Seude: Edingsaas Øvre m Folketelling 1801 for 0822P Sauherad prestegjeld

Johanes Halvorsen 1792* Børn Seude: Evie Østre m Folketelling 1801 for 0822P Sauherad prestegjeld

Jon Halvorsen 1795* Børn Seude: Sætre m Folketelling 1801 for 0822P Sauherad prestegjeld

John Halvorsen 1798* Deres børn Hitterdal: Waala m Folketelling 1801 for 0823P Heddal prestegjeld

John Halvorsen 1791* Deres børn Hitterdal: Tinnæs m Folketelling 1801 for 0823P Heddal prestegjeld

Jon Halvorsen 1797* Deres børn Moe: Nævehaug m Folketelling 1801 for 0832P Mo prestegjeld

Johannes Halvorssen 1793* Deres børn Gjerpen: Breche Søndre m Folketelling 1801 for 0812P Gjerpen prestegjeld

Jon Halvorssen 1798* Deres børn Gjerpen: Bratsberg m Folketelling 1801 for 0812P Gjerpen prestegjeld

Johannes Halvorssen 1798* Deres børn Gjerpen: Borge Østre m Folketelling 1801 for 0812P Gjerpen prestegjeld
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jkmarler
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Posted - 09/06/2015 :  11:22:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Searching close to home here is a Johannes Halvorsen , 10th one in the far right column of the right hand page:

Source information: Telemark county, Bø, Parish register (official) nr. 5 (1785-1815), Confirmation records 1804-1806, page 291-292.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7917&idx_id=7917&uid=ny&idx_side=-148


He is on Rødklev which is a farm under Østerli.

Possibly him in 1801:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01058310001139

Here is a marriage of a Halvor Jorgenson and Ingeborg Jensdatter in Telemark:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWSC-XMD

They had a son named Jøraan, 7th entry on right page:
Source information: Telemark county, Seljord, Parish register (official) nr. I 7 (1755-1800), Chronological list 1785, page 120.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7967&idx_id=7967&uid=ny&idx_side=-122
(There is a Jørgen Halvorson age 16 working for the farm owner of the farm the family was on in 1801)

They had a Johannes baptized the 15th Sunday after Trinity in 1787 in Seljord, the fifth entry on the left side:
Source information: Telemark county, Seljord, Parish register (official) nr. I 7 (1755-1800), Chronological list 1788, page 129.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7967&idx_id=7967&uid=ny&idx_side=-131

Do you have a list of Johannes' and Gunhild's children and their birthdates in order of their birth? Who were the bondsmen for Johannes' and Gunhild's marriage?


Edited by - jkmarler on 09/06/2015 19:26:14
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 09/06/2015 :  21:51:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I'll get that info for you Thanks

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AntonH
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Posted - 09/06/2015 :  22:18:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice Jackie, might be able to locate them in a Bygdebok. They were listed as on Rui farm, Seljord when they got engaged. See next to bottom of the left page.

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7968&idx_id=7968&uid=ny&idx_side=-70
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