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lornejohnson
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 Posted - 26/10/2014 : 17:14:03
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| Jackie: I'm still a bit of a greenhorn at this and I'm still learning the research techniques that may seem to be very obvious to you. I'll follow up on your advice. Thank you. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 26/10/2014 : 19:09:27
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Andrew's homestead is very near US Highway 135 and most near Riverton. As I recall there was a Riverton paper mentioned at the Chronicling America site but I don't remember the dates cover.
There is a mapping feature available at glorecords.blm.gov site so you can see at least to the section of his homestead. He took an original homestead which means he lived there. The towns in Andrew's area along US 135 are coming from the west Bloomington, Franklin, Riverton, Inavale and Red Cloud. There is a Red Cloud paper mounted at the Chronicling America site. Since the search and the look are free there, it might be worthwhile to try a search for a death notice for Sarah even though its a long shot. |
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lornejohnson
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Posted - 26/10/2014 : 21:58:17
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Reportedly their homestead was 4 miles north of Cambridge.
Family Search shows a Nels Jorgensen in Winnebago Iowa USA in the 1900 Census.
Age 56
Born 1844
Birthplace Norway
Immigration Year 1854
Parents: Both Norwegian
Could be Sarah's brother. Still no luck searching under Nelson Boe and combinations of it. |
Lorne Johnson |
Edited by - lornejohnson on 27/10/2014 22:58:37 |
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lornejohnson
Senior member
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Posted - 27/10/2014 : 21:28:17
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Ancestry.com information US 1900 Census for Medicine Creek Nebraska
Jarah H Johnson and Andrew Johnson - date of immigration for "Jarah " is 1854 - Liking this !
Son Newton also included in census. |
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lornejohnson
Senior member
Canada
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Posted - 29/10/2014 : 03:57:49
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Answer from Boone0-28-14
Dear Lorne, I have received your request for information on Andrew Johson (ak) Anders Halverson. I just received a copy of the article you mentioned in your request and knowing how the land records normally are recorded I would believe you are correct in your thinking. If I understand the way Norway named individuals the "datter" means daughter.
I would assume if you have the marriage certificate and other information as to their movement to Nebraska that you are correct in the fact that Sarah is Sigrid.
I will try some of my other contacts in Boone County to see what we can nail down as proof. So please be patient with me because all of our researchers are volunteers including myself.
Bill Edmundson
Corresponding Secretary - Winnebago & Boone Counties Genealogical Society
County Genealogy: |
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lornejohnson
Senior member
Canada
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Posted - 29/10/2014 : 06:42:42
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| Request sent to Norwegian-American Genealogy Society in Madison Wisconsin to research Sarah H Nelson/ Siri Johanne Jorgensdatter. Will let you know their reply. |
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lornejohnson
Senior member
Canada
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Posted - 29/10/2014 : 16:43:55
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My brother said "Here is what I have on the Johnson family!! Andrew Johnson Born in Norway 10-15-1841 came to USA when 3 years old with his parents, settling at Albany, Wis. In his teens ran away from home & joined the Union Army at age of 20 with the Wis. Infantry,Co.A, 15th Regement. Was discharged as Sargent 12-20-1864 at Chattanooga, Tn.
Sara Hannah Nelson born in Norway came to USA at age 13 Andrew & Sara married in 1866 had 6 children
The Johnson family came by Train to Bloomington, Ne. in 1880 & by covered wagon & Homestedded about 4 miles N of Cambridge,Ne. lived there for 14 years, then went by covered wagon to Selma, Ten. for 4 year then returned to Cambridge & lived the rest of their lives. George Ole Johnson born 4-7-1873 at Capron, Ill. Married Clara M. Spath born 6-25-1895 Holbrook, Ne. Married 12-26-1918
Andrew & Sara's kids George, John, Christena, one son died on the trip back from Tn. don't know much about the other two"
I want to clarify the source on this information. This is NOT from MY brother ...it is information that was relayed to a shirt tail relative of mine who's brother is married to the granddaughter of George O Johnson.....son of Andrew. It is information that comes DIRECTLY from an 80 year old living relative of the George O Johnson family. It is not something that was read on a genealogy site ...but is factual family history passed down through the generations of Johnsons.
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/10/2014 : 19:22:09
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| Thanks for all that, lorne. |
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lornejohnson
Senior member
Canada
287 Posts |
Posted - 29/10/2014 : 20:09:28
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| I would like to put to you that I think we have pretty clear evidence that Sarah Nelson is Sarah Johnson - the wife of Andrew. The date of her migration from census reports concur with that of Siri Jorgensdat and her age of 13 years concurs with the information from George Johnson living relatives - as well as Andrews history as a Sgt. in the Civil War. More support is a good thing and I'm looking for more. Your opinions ? |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/10/2014 : 21:30:22
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| Well, if you are asking me - this is a bit of a knot to unravel, and you are working on unraveling it. That is how I'd sum it up. Do I think Siri Jorgensdatter is a worthwhile candidate who might possibly be Sarah? Yes. You notice I spent quite some time trying to support that hypothesis and find out more about that. I'm curious what your new investigations will turn up! |
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lornejohnson
Senior member
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Posted - 30/10/2014 : 03:39:34
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| Thanks Jane, I agree. I'm looking forward to seeing what the results are on the inquiries I have out there. |
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lornejohnson
Senior member
Canada
287 Posts |
Posted - 27/11/2014 : 23:39:19
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http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061205010330.jpg
Translation Please
If this link doesn't work ...this is Tordal / Drangedal 1848 births and confirmations. The entry is between # 15 and 16 at the bottom of the left hand page...a birth announcement for Jorgen Nilsen ....possibly a still-birth ?? |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 28/11/2014 : 10:11:32
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Yes, it was a stillborn girl, June 2 1846, parents Jørgen Nilsen and Dorthe Knudsdatter.
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JamesH
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Posted - 01/12/2014 : 00:10:26
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Hi Lorne,
As another poster has suggested, I would highly recommend obtaining the old age Civil War pension record for Andrew Johnson from the US National Archives.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-17553-121967-48?cc=1832324
Unfortunately, since Sarah died in 1904 prior to Andrew in 1925 (per gravestone photo posted previously), there would be no widow's pension records. A widow would have to prove her marriage to the Civil War pensioner (as well as state previous marriages) to obtain a pension which could have provided many of the answers to the questions you are looking for. Regardless, obtaining the old age pension records from the National Archives might provide this information.
I had a look on Fold3 a paid subscription site that specializes in U.S. military records (available free at many central city and Family History libraries). The widow pensioner records are organized by state, regiment, and company. For the 15th Regiment Wisconsin, Company A, there is a 33 page file for a widow "Miranda Johnson" that would be of special interest to you, especially a 4 page deposition by Andrew Johnson: Thought I would transcribe a few sentences (which turned out much longer than anticipated):
"Andrew Johnson of the town of Boone in said County, being duly sworn .... that he was a Private in Company "A", of the 15th Regiment of Wisconsin Infantry Volunteers, and that he was present at the Battle of Chickamauga, on September 19th 1863, that he was well acquainted with John Johnson, who was a private said Company A, ... and engaged in the Battle of Chickamauga, received a gunshot wound in his right shoulder and lung. Deponent further says that at the time when said John Johnson received his said wound, the U.S. troops were falling back, and the said John Johnson was left on the field and fell into the hands of the Rebels, who held him as a prisoner of war for about ten days, at the end of which time he was exchanged, at or near Chattanooga, Tenn., that after being so exchanged, said John Johnson was placed in Hospital No. 3 at Chattanooga, where he remained until the time of his death... and that he, deponent, frequently visited him, in said Hospital, and saw his wound, that said soldier suffered greatly from his said wound, and constantly grew worse, and failed in strength, that he deponent, last saw said soldier, at said hospital, on the 16th of December, 1863, ....that he deponent, next called at said hospital to visit said soldier, on the 18th day of December 1863, when he was informed by the ward master... that said soldier had died on the day before, December 17th, and had been buried....."
"Deponent further says that he is the uncle of said soldier, and the brother of Oliver Johnson who was the father of said soldier and the husband of Miranda Johnson, who is the mother of said soldier. That the said Oliver Johnson left the County of Boone in the Spring of the year 1859, and went to California, to work in the mines and was never heard from after the fall of 1860, except by way of report, which report was that he, the said Oliver, was drowned, at some place in California about the month of November 1860....Deponent further states that when the said Oliver Johnson went to California as above mentioned, he left his wife, Miranda Johnson, with six children, of whom John Johnson was the oldest, and without any property or means of support... [continues with details on how her son John provided support for the family and thus the request for the pension].
I took a quick look at the last 11 pages, but couldn't work out what research you've done on the older siblings of Andrew. Would be helpful if you would list their names and birth years. Were you aware of this Oliver? Perhaps "Oliver" is the Americanized version of "Ole"?
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