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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 11/03/2014 : 04:07:40
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Shortly after the arrival of the parents.
1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Dave Badzin
[Dave Badzin]
Age in 1910: 23
Birth Year: abt 1887
Birthplace: Russia
Home in 1910: Brooklyn Ward 26, Kings, New York
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1905
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Frieda Badzin
Father's Birthplace: Russia
Mother's Birthplace: Russia
Neighbors:
Household Members:
Name Age
Dave Badzin 23
Frieda Badzin 23
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Roand83
Starting member
Norway
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Posted - 11/03/2014 : 11:31:39
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The problem is that it says Brother in Law.. Saul Jacobson, and Irving had no Brother.. At least not an older Brother.
Found a famely that matches in 1940, and i think its the wrong Irving..
http://www.archives.com/1940-census/irving-jacobson-ny-55986927
What do you think?
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Originally posted by lyndal40
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It looks like Irving died in 1994 and Belle died last month.
I assume that you think this record and obit is for the Belle Jacobsen married to the Irving you have been seeking.
United States Obituary Collection
Name of Deceased: Belle Jacobson
Gender: Female
Age at Death: 98
Death Date: 2 Feb 2014
Obituary Date: 12 Feb 2014
Newspaper Location: Boise, Idaho, USA
Birth Date: 2 Jul 1915
Birth Place: Brooklyn, New York, USA
Spouse's Name: Irv
Parents' Names: Mike
[Maureen]
Childrens' Names: Sangeeta and Sushant
Siblings' Names: Saul
Belle Jacobson
1915 ~ 2014
Belle Jacobson, 98, died February 2, 2014. She was born in Brooklyn, New York on July 2, 1915. She was preceded in death by her husband, Irv and her oldest son, Shel. Survivors include her youngest son, Howard; grandchildren, Alexei and Risa; foster children, Sangeeta and Sushant; brother-in-law, Saul; and several nieces and nephews.
The family wishes to express their heartfelt thanks to Mike and Maureen, Sheila and Jack, Dick and Joanne, Rachel and B, the Exceptional Caregivers and St. Luke's Hospice. The love and care given to Belle during her final years was greatly appreciated. Thank you hardly seems adequate.
No memorial service will be held.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 11/03/2014 : 13:21:06
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Originally posted by Roand83
The problem is that it says Brother in Law.. Saul Jacobson, and Irving had no Brother.. At least not an older Brother.
Found a famely that matches in 1940, and i think its the wrong Irving..
http://www.archives.com/1940-census/irving-jacobson-ny-55986927
What do you think?
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Actually what it says is Saul Jacobson is a son -in-law which means he is married to a daughter of the head of the household Rebecca Jacobson and even if his last name is the same as Rebecca's he may or may not have any blood relationship. Rebecca is born in Roumania. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2014 : 14:54:19
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Searching the italian gen web for a marriage for Jacob Jacobsen found this matching bride, likely to be yours? :
Last Name Given Name Month/Day Year CtfNum County Soundex ID
Andersen Inga Mar 23 1912 2878 Kings A536 1047270
So we know your Jacob was still alive in 1925 but so far not findable in the 1930 census, deaths of Jacob Jacobson between 1925 and 1930.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2014 : 16:21:01
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Here is a possibiity for a death record for Jacob.
New York, New York, Death Index, 1862-1948
Name: Jacob Jacobson
Birth Year: abt 1879
Age: 50
Death Date: 23 Mar 1929
Death Place: Kings, New York, USA
Certificate Number: 8041 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2014 : 16:25:57
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It looks like Irving died in 1994 and Belle died last month.
I think you need to take a hard look at Irving and Belle, this Irving may not be the Irving Jacobsen you are looking for. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 11/03/2014 : 16:26:31
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To the poster do you have information about when Ingeborg left Norway and to whom she was coming in the US? |
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Roand83
Starting member
Norway
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Posted - 11/03/2014 : 16:42:16
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I dont think its the right Irving either, so it looks like a dead end in that case. She left Norway in 1907 With her father Karl Johan Andersen.
He went back a couple of years later after working as a policeman in NY. Then he had a new wife and a kid.
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?src=%2Fcgi-bin%2Ftif2gif.exe%3FT%3D\\\\192.168.100.11\\images\\T715-1017\\T715-10170087.TIF%26S%3D.5&pID=102108020057&name=Inga%26nbsp%3BAndersen&doa=Oct 16%2C 1907&port=Christiansand&line=0002
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Roand83
Starting member
Norway
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Posted - 12/03/2014 : 08:51:28
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| Passing the clothing store owned by Philip Greenberg at 219 Roebling st. early this mornlrg, Patrolman Daniel Hart of the Bedford ave. station, smelled gas. He forced open the door, and tracing fumes to a room in the rear of the store, he found Teddy, the Gxeenbergs" pet cat, overcome. On the second floor he found Greenberg, his wife, Jennie, and their 9-year-old daughter, Evelyn, unconscious in the gas-filled apart ment. Mr. and Mrs. Greenberg were quickly revived, but it was necessary to work over Evelyn nearly an hour. GAS VICTIM DIES Jacob Jacobson, 55, who lived in furnished room at 328 43d st., died today in; Kings County Hospital from accidental gas poisoning. He was found yesterday in his room, overcome by gas escaping from a Jet which had been accidentally left on (From The Brooklyn Daily Eagle 23 march 1929) |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2014 : 15:05:42
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Sad but not enough information to rule him in or out. You may have to get the actual death certificate to do that.
At Ellis Island website I took a look at a couple of Jacob Jacobsen / Jacobson arriving 1902-1907
Arriving on Cymric 14 Sept 1902
Jacob Jacobsen aged 22, sailor, last residence Arendal; going to uncle in New York Bens Berntsen?* 643 Hicks St, Brooklyn
Arriving on Baltic, 9 Mar 1907
Jacob Jacobsen age 28 b. Stavanger, destination dittoed from previous entry: friend O.C. Hilt (or Helt, Kilt) y16 8th Ave Richmond San Franciscio; left blank--have you ever been in US before; arrived with $50.
Arriving on SS California 27 Aug 1907
Jacob Jacobsen age 31 b. Norway last permanent address Arendal; nearest relative is grandfather Peter Petersen in Arendal; final destination either Boston or Philadelphia; Yes in Newark 1899-1904; passage here paid by owner of the ship; going to join the Norwegian steamer "Brighton", A.F. Flaveness Co. Christiania, 5' 7", blond
Arriving on Oceanic, 27 March 1902
Jacob Jacobson age 21, single, laborer, arrived with no money; destination uncle Corlis Clausen in Tacoma, Wash.
*this name was written the same time as Jacob's entry--ink is the same darkness as the rest of the entry--but is positioned between his and the next person's record.
Since Irving was in an orphanage in 1930 perhaps he was adopted by someone and underwent a name change as a result? |
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Roand83
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Norway
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Posted - 12/03/2014 : 15:33:21
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Arriving on Baltic, 9 Mar 1907
Jacob Jacobsen age 28 b. Stavanger, destination dittoed from previous entry: friend O.C. Hilt (or Helt, Kilt) y16 8th Ave Richmond San Franciscio; left blank--have you ever been in US before; arrived with $50
That should be him, his famely is from Egersund, beside Stavanger. The others dont match.
But i cant get any closer to Evelyn and Irving.. But he was about 15 when he was in an orphange, was it normal to get adopted in that age? Thought it was hard for the older children to get a new famely.. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 12/03/2014 : 15:56:40
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Here is the Ancestry.com record for that Jacob Jacobsen.
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Jacob Jacobsen
Arrival Date: 9 Mar 1907
Birth Date: abt 1879
Birth Location Other: stroanger
Age: 28
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Baltic
Looking at the original manifest, it appears to me that the person directly above him is Jorgen Sandberg. he is listed as an architect, travelling to San Francisco, whether before in United States, answer yes and place San Francisco, going to join a friend or relative, answer lists friend O C Holt or Halt. For Jacob all of the above answers are dittoed. I would be a little suspecious that the dittos really applied to Jacob. Perhaps a mistake was made since Jacob doesn't seem to fit the dittoes very well. Here is the entry on Jorgen.
New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Jörgen Sandberg
Arrival Date: 9 Mar 1907
Birth Date: abt 1859
Birth Location Other: fredrcksted
Age: 48
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Baltic |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 12/03/2014 : 16:02:31
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Originally posted by Roand83
But i cant get any closer to Evelyn and Irving.. But he was about 15 when he was in an orphange, was it normal to get adopted in that age? Thought it was hard for the older children to get a new famely..
Well, generally that's true today but back in the day, don't necessarily think so. I've heard stories of folks being adopted to provide "additional" labor on the farm or whatever, right off "orphan trains" and the like. Not every person's motive in adopting is pure. |
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David Yaw
Medium member
United Kingdom
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Posted - 12/03/2014 : 16:53:29
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Picking up late on this thread, and not sure if this is helpful ....
Jakob Jakobson (transcribed as Janob Jakobson), farmer, age 28 departed Liverpool 27 February 1907 aboard the Baltic. The names next to him on the manifest are George Sandberg (??), Farmer and Simon (??) Gjerderik, Labourer, but unclear if they were travelling together. All three arrived Liverpool via Hull.
Jacob Jacobsen age 19 single, male, labourer, departed Liverpool on 27 March 1907 for New York aboard the Baltic. Rasmus Jacobsen age 17 is the next name on the manifest and was apparently travelling with him. They came to Liverpool via Hull. I guess they would have arrived New York around 2 or 3 April ?? |
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Evelyn Jacobsen, born in 1915, Kings New York
