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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 13/03/2014 : 15:54:29
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an Irwin H Jacobson died 1970 in Los Angeles
It it is this one, he is shown here to have been born in Ohio.
California, Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Irwin H Jacobson
Social Security #: 548059187
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 22 Feb 1906
Birth Place: Ohio
Death Date: 19 Apr 1970
Death Place: Los Angeles
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/03/2014 : 16:14:21
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Posted by JaneC on page 4.
A candidate:
1940
New York, New York, New York
1 West 85th Street
Irving Jacobsen 27 born about 1913 New York, clothing store manager
A good candidate. In the 1940 Census there are only two candidates in the 1940 Census for Irving Jacobson or Jacobsen who are heads of households (Not Sons), born 1911 to 1915 and living in the four bououghs of New York. One of them is married to a Belle and we have eliminated that family earlier. The other one is married to an Evelyn Arkin. Mother-In-Law lliving with them.
Here is the family of Evelyn Arrkin 1930 Census, Note they are living in Brooklyn.
1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Evelyn Arkin
[Evelyn Alberto]
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1916
Birthplace: New York
Race: White
Home in 1930: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Map of Home:
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Father's Birthplace: Massachusetts
Mother's name: Mabel Arkin
Mother's Birthplace: United States
Household Members:
Name Age
Mabel Arkin 34
Augusta Alberto 67
Evelyn Arkin 14
Vivian Skultchi 13 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/03/2014 : 16:37:08
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Thanks, obviously Irwin in LA is wrong.
17 August 1914 in Bronx county, New York
George Arkin married Mabel Alberts
www.italiangen.org (Italian Genealogical Group)
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/03/2014 : 17:08:20
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Originally posted by lyndal40
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an Irwin H Jacobson died 1970 in Los Angeles
It it is this one, he is shown here to have been born in Ohio.
California, Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Irwin H Jacobson
Social Security #: 548059187
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 22 Feb 1906
Birth Place: Ohio
Death Date: 19 Apr 1970
Death Place: Los Angeles
And birthdate in 1906 puts him outside the +/- 5 years rule of thumb. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 13/03/2014 : 17:23:59
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Originally posted by JaneC
Wonder if this Evelyn is the same as the one who died in Los Angeles. (I haven't seen the death record, just an index listing it)
17 August 1914 in Bronx county, New York
George Arkin married Mabel Alberts
www.italiangen.org (Italian Genealogical Group)
Here is the rootsweb California death index for her:
JACOBSON EVELYN 12/15/1915 ALBERT ARKIN F NEW YORK LOS ANGELES(19) 01/15/1981
Mother's maiden is Albert and father's name is Arkin |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/03/2014 : 17:29:47
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Here is the rootsweb California death index for her:
JACOBSON EVELYN 12/15/1915 ALBERT ARKIN F NEW YORK LOS ANGELES(19) 01/15/1981
Mother's maiden is Albert and father's name is Arkin
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/03/2014 : 17:54:33
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Originally posted by Roand83
About the name Kåre Irving, is just a name that we have heard about from older relatives who no longer is with us.
Thanks Ron.
When you first mentioned Evelyn, in your opening post, you said she might be Ruth Evelyn. You were right!
You also said Irvin might be Kåre Irving. It could be you are right! 
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/03/2014 : 22:20:11
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Here is a possible Irving Jacobsen b. 18 Nov 1914 (which is close to 6 months old in June 1915):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VMP3-8NL
Name: Irving Jacobsen
Father's Surname: Unobtainable
Death Date: 27 Sep 1990
Death Place: Stafford, Tolland, Connecticut
Age: 75 Years
Birth Place: New York
Birth Date: 18 Nov 1914
Marital Status: Never Married (Single) <---------
State File #: 19992
Occupation: LABORER
Education: Primary/Secondary
Residence : Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Address: 141 Woodland St 061051221
Name: Irving J. Jacobsen
SSN: --
BORN: 18 Nov 1914
Died: 27 Sep 1990
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
Probably he's this one:
1915 NY state census
New York, Kings
Hyman Jacobson 28
Bessie Jacobson 26
Sarah Jacobson 5
Lillian Jacobson 3
Irving Jacobson 1 |
Edited by - JaneC on 14/03/2014 22:06:03 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 13/03/2014 : 23:34:39
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Originally posted by JaneC
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Here is a possible Irving Jacobsen b. 18 Nov 1914 (which is close to 6 months old in June 1915):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/VMP3-8NL
Name: Irving Jacobsen
Father's Surname: Unobtainable
Death Date: 27 Sep 1990
Death Place: Stafford, Tolland, Connecticut
Age: 75 Years
Birth Place: New York
Birth Date: 18 Nov 1914
Marital Status: Never Married (Single) <---------
State File #: 19992
Occupation: LABORER
Education: Primary/Secondary
Residence : Hartford, Hartford, Connecticut
Address: 141 Woodland St 061051221
Name: Irving J. Jacobsen
SSN: --
BORN: 18 Nov 1914
Died: 27 Sep 1990
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
Probably he's this one:
1915 NY state census
New York, Kings
Hyman Jacobson 28
Bessie Jacobson 26
Sarah Jacobson 5
Lillian Jacobson 3
Irving Jacobson 1
Don't think there's enough evidence to say that this one is or is not the Irving born 18 Nov 1914, unless you've seen something that you haven't posted here....My opinion. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/03/2014 : 04:47:41
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Duplicates some of what JaneC posted earlier.
California, Death Index, 1940-1997
Name: Evelyn Jacobson
[Evelyn Arkin]
Social Security #: 567374053
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 15 Dec 1915
Birth Place: New York
Death Date: 15 Jan 1981
Death Place: Los Angeles
Mother's Maiden Name: Albert
Father's Surname: Arkin |
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JaneC
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Posted - 14/03/2014 : 05:16:57
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Back in an edit:
The option to contact descendants of Ruth Evelyn is (likely) available, and they might have the answer. |
Edited by - JaneC on 14/03/2014 22:07:27 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/03/2014 : 21:51:28
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some of the information seemed wrong.
I looked at about five of those Family Trees. All are quite the same and in spite of fairly good documentation of three different census's have Hyman Jacobson born in 1854. Doubtful based on age of children and contradicted by all of the Census Data, which have him born in 1886 or 1887 or 1887.
But I think looking at the data from the best of the Trees that the below Irving Jacobsen is a very unlikley candidate.
Irving Jacobson
Birth 18 November 1914 in New York
Death 27 September 1990 in Stafford, Tolland, Connecticut |
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JaneC
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Posted - 14/03/2014 : 22:05:34
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Came back to correct that - Sorry about the confusion!  Thanks lyndal40, and yes, you've about summed it up. |
Edited by - JaneC on 14/03/2014 22:07:48 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 14/03/2014 : 22:19:09
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Based on this WWI Draft Card he was born 1886 and living at 1061 Dekalb Street.
U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Herman Jacobson
City: Brooklyn
County: Kings
State: New York
Birthplace: Russia
Birth Date: 15 Sep 1886
Race: Caucasian (White)
Draft Board: 35
The same family was living at 1061 Dekalb Street in the 1915 New York Census posted earlier by JaneC, now lined out above.
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/03/2014 : 22:40:32
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One last post on the Hyman, Herman and Bessie family. In 1940, Herman (Hyman) is probably dead and this is the family. Living in New York, Kings, New York
Household Members:
Name Age
Bessie Jacobson 50
Irving Jacobson 26
Eli Jacobson 20
Jeannette Jacobson 18
Beatrice Jacobson 16
Florence Jacobson 14
Leonard Jacobson 11
Phyllis Jacobson 9 |
Edited by - AntonH on 14/03/2014 22:42:50 |
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Evelyn Jacobsen, born in 1915, Kings New York
