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jcravi
Starting member
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 Posted - 25/03/2014 : 16:11:18
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| I'm seeking information on a Tellef Gunerius Tellefsen born abt May1878 he came from Oyestad, Aust-Adger, Norway. He may have settled in either Brooklyn, NY or Staten Island (Richmond) NY. He may have been married to either a Jennie or Berta, and may have had children named Gil and Goodie. His siblings were Johan Martin Tellefsen (gone by "Martin) , Anders Anton Tellefsen and Anna Marie Knudsen. I know about the other siblings, but cannot find much on Tellef Gunerius Tellefsen. Any help would be appreciated. Thank you. jcravi@aol.com |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 26/03/2014 : 06:48:16
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Here is your Tellef's confirmation #9. His birthdate, given in the confirmation is 5 May 1876 not May 1878, a factual difference which might make your search easier or more successful:
Source information: Aust-Agder county, Øyestad, Parish register (official) nr. A 17 (1887-1896), Confirmation records 1891, page 163.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=851&idx_id=851&uid=ny&idx_side=-166
Where did you get the information you have about "may have been married to either a Jennie or Berta and may have had children named Gil and Goodie?" Were these observations a family tradition or something else? |
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peder
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USA
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 26/03/2014 : 15:42:23
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There is this person on an Ancestry.com Tree.
Tellef Tellefsen
Birth 13 May 1878 in Arendal, Norway
Death 13 April 1949
Married to Inga, lived in
New York, State Census, 1925
Name: Tellef Tellefsen
Birth Date: abt 1878
Birth Place: Norway
Age: 47
Gender: Male
Residence Place: New York, Richmond
Relationship: Head
Color or Race: White
Number of Years in US: 26
Assembly District: 02
House Number: 17
Line Number: 18
Page Number: 20
Household Members:
Name Age
Tellef Tellefsen 47
Ivga Tellefsen 48
Borghild Tellefsen 25
Casten Tellefsen 22
Aucca Tellefsen 19
Tonne Tellefsen 17
Frank Tellefsen 11
Ralph Tellefsen 09
Solvig Tellefsen 06
Olene Olsen 68
Conrad Kuntzer 27 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 26/03/2014 : 15:57:16
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Most likely the same person as above.Wife is listed as Inga. Address is given as 17 Washington Place, Port Richmond, Richmond, NY.
U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name: Tellef Tellefsen
Birth Date: 13 May 1878
Birth Place: Arendal, Norway
Residence: Rich, New York
Race: White |
Edited by - AntonH on 26/03/2014 16:14:18 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 26/03/2014 : 16:12:59
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Probably the same person, however birth date is slightly different. Wife is Enga and address is 17 Washington Pl.
U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Tellef Tellefsen
City: Staten Island
County: Richmond
State: New York
Birth Date: 17 May 1878
Race: White
Draft Board: 187 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 26/03/2014 : 16:18:03
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Hi - do you mind helping us understand, What is the reasoning that your Tellef is in New York? What sources or family stories led you to considering that possibility?
http://www.norwayheritage.com/snitz/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3702
One reason I ask is that you seem rather tentative about him ("may have been married to either a Jennie or Berta and may have had children named Gil and Goodie?") so it may be helpful if the forum looks at the evidence together with you.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 26/03/2014 : 16:27:32
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This is likely the Tellef from the Ancestry.com Tree. With wife Inga and first daguhter Borghild in 1900 Census. Note is was born in Froland parish.
NHDC 1900 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 26/03/2014 : 16:52:09
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Here is poster's Tellef in the 1900 Norwegian census, he's a sailor away on a trip to "Cap Werd Forenede stater" Cape Verde?:
3633 Tellef Gunerius Tellefs. m f Paa reise til Cap Werd Forenede Stater s ug Sømand, Styrmand 1875 t n s
No Tellef in the 1910 Norwegian census with his birthdate of 5 May 1876. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 26/03/2014 : 16:53:52
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This is likely the birth of the Tellef in the census records (US and Norway) posted by lyndal40.
Tellef, born 13 May 1878 in Froland, Aust-Agder, father is Tellef Olsen.
SOURCE: Aust-Agder county, Froland, Parish register copy nr. B 9 (1875-1893), Birth and baptism records 1878, page 15.
see #34
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20060203010661.jpg
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Edited by - JaneC on 26/03/2014 16:54:20 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 26/03/2014 : 20:28:40
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Although that first candidate was not your Tellef, jcravi, this one probably is:
Ellis Island, New York, USA
IMMIGRATION RECORD
Sailing on the SS United States
Departing Christiansand 08 May 1907
arriving New York 28 May 1907
Tellef G. Tellefsen, age 31, seaman
born about 1876 Norway
Last Permanent Residence: illegible --stad Arendal
Passage paid by myself
Whether ever before in the United States? Yes, in NY 1903-1907
Whether going to join a relative or friend: Scandinavian Sailor's Home in Brooklyn
Birthplace: Øiestad, Arendal
Check out the Ellis Island site for more records that could be for the same man. For example:
First Name: Tellef
Last Name: Tellefsen
Ethnicity: Norway, Scandinavian
Last Place of Residence: Areudal, Norway
Date of Arrival: Oct 08, 1915
Age at Arrival: 42y
Gender: M
Marital Status: M <------married
Ship of Travel: Bergensfjord
Port of Departure: Kristiansand, Norway
Manifest Line Number: 0007
....says he's traveling to NY to join a Norwegian ship
This might be his first time sailing to USA, from Ellis Island website:
First Name: Tellef
Last Name: Tellefsen
Ethnicity: Norway, Norwegian
Last Place of Residence: Arendal
Occupation: Sailor, traveling to Scandinavian Sailor's Home in Brooklyn
Whether ever before in the USA: NO
Date of Arrival: Sep 02, 1904
Age at Arrival: 25y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Baltic
Port of Departure: Liverpool
Manifest Line Number: 0001
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 26/03/2014 : 20:55:09
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Italian Genealogical Group has indexes of marriages, births, deaths, and naturalizations in the New York City metropolitan area (Brooklyn, Queens, King, Richmond, Manhattan)
Is not limited to Italians. Tellef Tellefsen appears in several lists but without the needed information to identify him as "yours." Copies of the original records can be
ordered and would probably tell more about each Tellef.
http://italiangen.org/ |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 26/03/2014 : 21:40:24
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Another Ellis Island record. If this one is "your" Tellef, and if this record is correct, he is married by 1911.
First Name: Tellef
Last Name: Tellefsen
Ethnicity: , Scandinavian
Last Place of Residence: Arendal, Norway
Date of Arrival: Oct 04, 1911
Age at Arrival: 37 y [born about 1874]
Gender: M
Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Oscar ll
Port of Departure: Christiansand
Manifest Line Number: 0012 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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jcravi
Starting member
Norway
14 Posts |
Posted - 27/03/2014 : 18:00:41
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Thank you for all of your efforts in researching my family. It is greatly appreciated.
My mother used to speak of having an Uncle Tom, her mother's brother, I'm assuming this is Tellef. I thought she may have mentioned that he lived in Staten Island, but I may be wrong. I found an old Memorial Book for my grandmother's funeral services, and in it was the names Tante Jennie, Uncle Tom, Goodie and Gil. There was also a Tante Berta Tellefsen, but no other information. I believe the Tellef in Staten Island was born in May 1878 and not 1876 which would be my Tellef, and he was a sailor.
Hopefully, I can find some answers someday. Thanks again.
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