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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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 Posted - 27/04/2014 : 10:42:17
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Martin Haraldsen, birth 1855, left for Minesota in 1876, #1 (date for birth/baptism is wrong)
Emigration record out of Oslo (Christiania), link - his ticket was prepaid, by siblings already in US? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Karensue33
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 27/04/2014 : 16:54:38
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#11 has been corrected. I don't know why problems persist.
I know,, sometimes the parts I do a cntl-v, don't get to the clipboard, but the privious copy sticks there, It's a windows glitch I think. |
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Karensue33
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 27/04/2014 : 18:16:50
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| We have discussed much about Harald Clemmetsen Bergsundeie Strommen, What does Bergsundeie Strommen mean? |
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Karensue33
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 27/04/2014 : 18:21:30
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Olsvika (Olsvig) where Nils Henrik was born, Viker church and other farms, link.
Zoom and pan to your liking.
I like this map. I will be able to use it to find other places also. I zoomed in on the farm, and that was amazing to see.
I also noticed, It appears as though Anna Marie didn't come with her siblings. I don't see any record of her in the census of wisconsin, where most of them moved. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 28/04/2014 : 15:24:32
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We have discussed much about Harald Clemmetsen Bergsundeie Strommen, What does Bergsundeie Strommen mean?
- both Bergsund and Strømmen are names of farms (as you can see on the map). Bergsundeie is the way to explain that the cotters place belonged to the farm Bergsund. ("eie" = owned by).
When Bergsundeie or Strømmen is used after the persons name it is an address (where the person was living or was born). Both farm names is normally not used together.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 28/04/2014 : 15:37:38
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Kristian Strømmen moved out of Ådal 1873, #41. (He is here noted as 30 years - Kristian Haraldsen would have been 20 years in 1873.)
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Karensue33
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 28/04/2014 : 23:12:47
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Originally posted by eibache
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Originally posted by Karensue33
We have discussed much about Harald Clemmetsen Bergsundeie Strommen, What does Bergsundeie Strommen mean?
- both Bergsund and Strømmen are names of farms (as you can see on the map). Bergsundeie is the way to explain that the cotters place belonged to the farm Bergsund. ("eie" = owned by).
When Bergsundeie or Strømmen is used after the persons name it is an address (where the person was living or was born). Both farm names is normally not used together.
It's strange to me that all these people in a family could afford to go to America. I'm going to guess that most people even today, can't really afford to move between countries, especially if there's an ocean between them. So tenant farmers could make a good living in Norway at those times? |
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Karensue33
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 28/04/2014 : 23:20:39
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Originally posted by eibache
Kristian Strømmen moved out of Ådal 1873, #41. (He is here noted as 30 years - Kristian Haraldsen would have been 20 years in 1873.)
So maybe, Strømmen isn't the right name in the records of the American source. I saw he is missing a lot of information, including the name Anne Marie. There are also other things missing, like vital statistics. Most of what I have has come from your sources. I'll share this information with him, when I get it right.  |
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 28/04/2014 : 23:23:19
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It was only one Olsviken farm in Ådal 1865 and 1900, Olsvik B nr 2.
Two photos of Olsviken ca 1920 link
Olsviken: Ole`s bay
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 29/04/2014 : 00:31:12
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It's strange to me that all these people in a family could afford to go to America. I'm going to guess that most people even today, can't really afford to move between countries, especially if there's an ocean between them. So tenant farmers could make a good living in Norway at those times?
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The tickets were expencive and cost about a year`s salary.
In 1853 a ticket for an adult was 14 Spesiedaler, 10 Spd for children under 18, 8 Spd for children under 12, 6 Spd for children between 6 and 1.
Two adults (28 Spd) with 6 children (ca 48 Spd) total 76 Spd in 1853, same as 304 Kroner is ca 24 000 Kroner (in 2013) or 4 000 US Dollar today.
Those who had em.often lent/bought tickets to friends and family in Norway against ca one year of work as repayment.
The reason for the emigration was powerty,opressioen, overpopulation, religion, class division, trade regulations in Norway, the promise of cheap land in America, America.fever (friends and family emigrated) etc.
Not everyone who em. was pooor 
Former Member of the Norwegian Parliament Hans Gasmann with wife, 13 children and 7 servants dep. Porsgrunn for New York on Bark Salvator 1853.
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Karensue33
Junior member
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Posted - 29/04/2014 : 00:56:45
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Originally posted by Kåarto
It was only one Olsviken farm in Ådal 1865 and 1900, Olsvik B nr 2.
Two photos of Olsviken ca 1920 link
Olsviken: Ole`s bay
Kåre
Thank you!! I took copies of those pictures for my research. I so want to go to Norway. It's in my bucket list |
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Karensue33
Junior member
USA
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Posted - 29/04/2014 : 01:02:53
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Originally posted by Kåarto
'quote:
The tickets were expencive and cost about a year`s salary.
In 1853 a ticket for an adult was 14 Spesiedaler, 10 Spd for children under 18, 8 Spd for children under 12, 6 Spd for children between 6 and 1.
Two adults (28 Spd) with 6 children (ca 48 Spd) total 76 Spd in 1853, same as 304 Kroner is ca 24 000 Kroner (in 2013) or 4 000 US Dollar today.
Those who had em.often lent/bought tickets to friends and family in Norway against ca one year of work as repayment.
The reason for the emigration was powerty,opressioen, overpopulation, religion, class division, trade regulations in Norway, the promise of cheap land in America, America.fever (friends and family emigrated) etc.
Not everyone who em. was pooor
Former Member of the Norwegian Parliament Hans Gasmann with wife, 13 children and 7 servants dep. Porsgrunn for New York on Bark Salvator 1853.
Kåre
My grandmother told me her father came here wearing a 'blue velvet suit'. I was under the impression they weren't poor. Likewise I didn't perceive them as wealthy either.  |
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Karensue33
Junior member
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Posted - 29/04/2014 : 05:57:19
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| I found a phone number for Virginia M Swenson (88 years old). I don't know how old the record is, or even if she's still alive,. She was Henry Swenson (Svendsen)'s granddaugher, She is listed as a daughter, but is in fact his granddaughter. She became his legal daughter by adoption. I'm going to start looking further back from Clemmet Haraldsen, to see where that goes, Be back soon! |
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Karensue33
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Posted - 29/04/2014 : 23:37:19
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Virginia M Swenson at the number I found told me her father's name was Carl. 
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