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peterstorlien
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Canada
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 Posted - 13/06/2014 : 08:24:48
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I am searching for the parents and siblings of my grandmother Marit (Mary) Oleson who was born in 1858 in Norway and had emigrated to USA in 1866 when she was 8 years old. She and my grandfather Peter Lee were married on July 14, 1883 in St. James, Watonwan County, Minnesota.
My grandfather Peter Lee had also emigrated from Norway in 1866 when he was 19-20 years old along with his parents, brother and four sisters from Storlien nedre farm in Bæverdalen district of the parish of Lom in Oppland. They sailed on the bark Gustav Adolphe from Bergen May 14 and arrived at Montreal, Quebec on June 16 after ship inspection at Grosse Isle.
The family changed their surname from "STORLII" or "STORLIEN" to "LEE" upon entering the USA.
The Lee family (my great grandfather Syver Persson Storlii (Lee), my great uncle Torkjell Syversson Storlii (Lee), and my grandfather Per Syversson Storlii (Lee) each filed on homestead land in the Long Lake district of Watonwan County, Minnesota.
My grandparents Peter and Mary had seven children, all born at Long Lake in Minnesota between 1885 and 1896. They sold their land in Minnesota and moved to and bought a farm in 7th district of Morgan County, Tennessee sometime between 1896 and 1899 as they show up there on the 1900 USA census. The family (minus my grandmother) next show up on the 1906 Canadian census on a farm near Weldon, Saskatchewan. My grandmother Marit (Mary) had died in 1904, 2 years after arriving in Canada in 1902. She is buried in the Weldon Lutheran Cemetery which is approx. 4.5 miles northwest of Weldon, Saskatchewan.
I have been very fortunate in finding both sides of my grandfather's family in Norway (as far back as 1725) but have had no such luck in finding any trace of my grandmother's family.
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vivi
Senior member
Norway
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Posted - 13/06/2014 : 12:22:12
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Hi
The name Marit Olesen/Olsen/Olsdatter is very common.
If you knew her exact birthdate is would be much easier to find the correct Marit.
Here is one possible Marit born about 1858 and emigrating 1866. Her surname here is Johnsdatter according to Norwegian naming rules, but many families emigrating together took the head of household (the husband/father)'s surname as familyname in US. Her father was John Olsen, so the family most likely used Olsen/Olson in US. Many emigrants travelled to US via Canada.
No 40:
http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_list.asp?jo=2033&ps=25096
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 13/06/2014 : 13:08:07
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Not easy to find your Marit.
Age 8, we can assume she em. with the parents and that her fathers lastname was Olsen?
If so we need her fathers firstname.
An example; if her father was John Olsen, Marit was bapt. as Marit Johnsdatter (Johns daughter) in Norway
Your Peter Syversen and Torkjeld on Storlien 1865 with father Syver and mother Brit Torkjeldsdatter.
Two sisters, Ingri and Mari, Torger Nilsen, his brothers son, and Syvers parents. Ole Pedersen (Syvers brother?) and Synne are the former owners of the farm wth a contract on free supplies on the farm for the rest of their life.
Many em. who came from a farms that ended on Lien/Li, (means hillside) changed to Lee in N. America. Li has th the same pronunciation as Lee.
Storlien- Big hillside
As you say, Storlien is located to Lom
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Edited by - Kåarto on 13/06/2014 15:09:02 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 13/06/2014 : 15:53:26
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In the ELCA baptisms database there are these from Long Lake Lutheran in Watonwan county, Minnesota:
Syver Ingval b. 27 July 1884 bapt 5 Oct 1884 parents Peter Lien Marit Lien
faddernes: Ole O. Horten, Marith Oleson, Hans Larsen, Anne H. Larsen
Inga Marie b. 10 Mar 1886, bapt 13 June 1886 parents Peder Lee, Marie Lee
faddernes: Ole T. Berge, Sofie Peders., Torkel Lee, Thora Lee
Bertine Oline b. 16 Apr 1888, bapt 22 July 1888 parents Peter & Marit Lien
faddernes: Ole Olstad, Ingeborg Olstad, Peder Lien
Anna Torina b. 7 Jan 1890 bapt 27 July 1890 parents Peder & Marit Lien
faddernes: Egil Ormbret, Tora Teigen, Nils Runten, Tinne Runten
Pauline Marie b. 14 June 1894 bapt 5 Aug 1894 parents Peder & Marit Lien
faddernes: Egil & Gunhild Ormbraek, Randine Ormbraek, C. Melheim
From the ELCA deaths / funerals database for those named in the faddernes above when birthplace noted in death:
Mrs. Marit Horten b. 1916 age 67 b. LOM
Ole M. Horten age 45 b. LOM
Embjorg Olstad d. 1907 b. LOM
Ole P. Olstad d. 1930 age 78 b. LOM
Mrs. Karen Melheim b. 1918 b. HAFSLO
Mrs. Tora Teigen d. 1919 b. LOM
Mrs. Marie Howe d. 1920 b. SORUM
Egil Ormbraek b. Telemarken |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 13/06/2014 : 16:45:40
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Probably your grandmother and family in the 1900 Census. Sometimes it is useful to have as much information upfront as possible.
1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Mary Lee
Age: 42
Birth Date: Mar 1858
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1900: Civil District 7, Morgan, Tennessee
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1866
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Peter Lee
Marriage Year: 1883
Years Married: 17
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Mother: number of living children: 7
Mother: How many children: 7
Occupation:
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Lee 53
Mary Lee 42
Sever E Lee 15
Mary E Lee 14
Bertina O Lee 12
Anna T Lee 10
Oliver F Lee 8
Paulina M Lee 5
Mabel C Lee 4
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 13/06/2014 : 16:52:06
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Here's a possible in Lom, Marith Olsdatter b. 29 March 1858 # 105:
Source information: Oppland county, Lom, Parish register (official) nr. 6A (1837-1863), Birth and baptism records 1858, page 226.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8915&idx_id=8915&uid=ny&idx_side=-228
Marith above #19 moving out of Lom to Bødo with her family:
Source information: Oppland county, Lom, Parish register (official) nr. 7 (1863-1884), Emigration records 1865, Imigration records 1872-1874, page 317.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=6072&idx_id=6072&uid=ny&idx_side=-269
Coming into Bodø on 2 Nov 1864 (left of page) #27 & +:
Source information: Nordland county, Bodø, Parish register (official) nr. 801A08 (1864-1875), Migration records 1865, page 355.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2529&idx_id=2529&uid=ny&idx_side=-330
Residents of Bodø in 1865, but they are not found there in 1875 so either moved elsewhere or passed on:
http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&filnamn=f61843&personpostnr=1889&merk=1889
Here are father, mother and brother in 1875:
http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=8&filnamn=f71843&gardpostnr=290&merk=290#ovre |
Edited by - jkmarler on 15/06/2014 03:22:29 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 13/06/2014 : 17:02:00
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Probably the marriage liscense for Mait Olson
Minnesota, Marriages Index, 1849-1950
Name: Peter S Lee
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 14 Jul 1883
Marriage Place: St James, Watonwan, Minnesota
Spouse's Name: Mary Olson
Spouse Gender: Female
Event Type: Marriage
FHL Film Number: 1638096 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 13/06/2014 : 17:39:05
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While Peter is findable in the 1880 Census, I have not located Mary (Marit), have you ever found her in the 1880 Census.
1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Peter S. Lee
Age: 30
Birth Year: abt 1850
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Long Lake, Watonwan, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors:
Occupation: Farmer
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter S. Lee 30
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 13/06/2014 : 17:50:44
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Here is a candidate from the 1875 Minnesota Census. probably living with a family named Woods. Age is a little off.
Minnesota, Territorial and State Censuses, 1849-1905
Name: Mary Oleson
Age: 20
Census Date: 1 May 1875
County: Watonwan
Locality: Madelia
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Female
Estimated birth year: abt 1855
Race: White
Father's Birth Location: Norway
Mother's Birth Location: Norway
LINE: 35
Roll: MNSC_18 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 13/06/2014 : 18:05:52
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Not a lot of candidates living in Watonwan in 1880. What do you know about her parents? Here is one candidate but age is way off. Living with a famly named Packard.
1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Mary Oleson
Age: 16
Birth Year: abt 1864
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Madelia, Watonwan, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Female
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors:
Occupation: Servant
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Oleson
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 13/06/2014 : 18:31:54
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If you think that the Mar 1858 birth listed in the 1900 Census is correct that would at least limit the number of potential candidates. Here are three. That is assuming that her fathers first name was Ole. Probably a big assumption here.
Name: Marit Olesdatter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 13 mar 1858
Baptism Date: 30 mai 1858 (30 May 1858)
Baptism Place: Selbu, Sor Trondelag, Norway
Father: Ole Johnsen
Mother: Brynild Pedersdr
FHL Film Number: 307012
Reference ID: 2:1DFR9P8
Name: Marit Olsen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 9 mar 1858
Baptism Date: 5 apr 1858
Baptism Place: Os,Hedmark,Norway
Father: Ole Olsen
Mother: Bendikke Mikkelsdr
FHL Film Number: 124472
Name: Marit Olsen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 19 mar 1858
Baptism Date: 9 mai 1858 (9 May 1858)
Baptism Place: Stangvik,More Og Romsdal,Norway
Father: Ole Ellingsen
Mother: Ildri Andersdr
FHL Film Number: 306971 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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peterstorlien
Starting member
Canada
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Posted - 14/06/2014 : 08:41:11
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Thanks to everyone for the many and quick responses to my posting re: Marit Oleson.
In response to lyndal40's questions:
-"What do you know about her parents? "
Answer: I do not know anything about her parents; that was why I posted the query.
- "have you ever found her in the 1880 Census?"
Answer: I found a Marit Oleson (single & born abt 1857) on the 1880 census working as a servant for a Thompson family in Minnehaha, Dakota Territory. I had previously found this Marit as a possible but unfortunately on the 1880 census there isn't even a column for the emigration date and none of the information on this census points me to her parents.
- "Probably the marriage liscense for Mait Olson"
Answer: I found this info some time ago (2005) and contacted Watonwan County Records who advised me that bride's parents name(s) would not be on the licence.
"Probably your grandmother and family in the 1900 Census. Sometimes it is useful to have as much information upfront as possible."
Answer: Since 2005 I have had copies of the 1870, 1880, 1885, 1895, & 1900 USA census records tracing the "Lee's" and then starting in 1885 census also Marit as well but they don't help in tracing Marit other than showing her age, country of birth (Norway), and year of immigration (1866).
I don't know her birthdate, place of birth in Norway, nor her parents names, nor any of her brothers or sisters names nor whether she had any siblings at all.
Can someone tell me how I could access the ELCA baptisms deaths / funerals database for Long Lake Lutheran Church in Watonwan County, Minnesota.
It should contain baptism information for the additional 2 children of Peter and Marit's : Oliver Frank b. Oct. 19, 1891(my father) & Mabel Christine b. April 1, 1896 (another aunt) including identifying their godparents.
Very likely if Marit had any brothers or sisters in Minnesota, one or more of them would be called on to be godparents to at least one of the 7 children.
I will start checking out those godparents identified in jkmarler's
posting and try to determine if any could be related to Marit.
Hopefully the ELCA baptisms / deaths / funerals database will as well also reveal the Minnesota burial location of my great grandfather (Marit's father-in-law) Severt Lee (d. 1879 in Watonwan County) and my great grandmother (Marit's mother-in-law) Brit (Betsy) Lee (d. 1907 in Watonwan County).
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 14/06/2014 : 14:38:01
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quote:
Originally posted by peterstorlien
Can someone tell me how I could access the ELCA baptisms deaths / funerals database for Long Lake Lutheran Church in Watonwan County, Minnesota.
It should contain baptism information for the additional 2 children of Peter and Marit's : Oliver Frank b. Oct. 19, 1891(my father) & Mabel Christine b. April 1, 1896 (another aunt) including identifying their godparents.
Very likely if Marit had any brothers or sisters in Minnesota, one or more of them would be called on to be godparents to at least one of the 7 children.
I will start checking out those godparents identified in jkmarler's
posting and try to determine if any could be related to Marit.
Hopefully the ELCA baptisms / deaths / funerals database will as well also reveal the Minnesota burial location of my great grandfather (Marit's father-in-law) Severt Lee (d. 1879 in Watonwan County) and my great grandmother (Marit's mother-in-law) Brit (Betsy) Lee (d. 1907 in Watonwan County).
You can take a temporary, one week free subscription at archives.com which includes the ELCA databases of baptisms & confirmations, marriages, and funerals. Searching is a quirky process, first by last name. required, then by first name and you can limit to only the appropriate ELCA database, if needed and by state geographically. Once you find a name you are allowed to browse back and forth a bit within the pages but you can't just browse from the get go. Searching of the faddernes for Marit's possible relatives, is important, but you may also want to see who she was faddernes for before and after her marriage. The faddernes are only findable via a browse, they are not indexed.
There was a funeral for Marit Syversdatr Lee but contained no death date burial 3 Nov 1916 age 78 years, died at St. Peter. Perhaps there were family in St. Peter but there was also a state hospital for people with mental issues. She lived with Peter and Marit in the 1895 Minnesota state census viewable at familysearch.org
Why did the family go to Tennessee? Perhaps Marit (the wife) has family there? Norwegians, even Olson, there should stand out Who were the witnesses of Peter's and Marit's wedding?--another possible source of her relations.
Another possible option would be to search only for Marit, Marie, etc. b Norway 1858 =/- 2 years of any last name in Watonwan in 1880 census--perhaps she wasn't using Olson.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2014 : 16:32:58
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Familysearch's find for Marit/ Marie/ etc with any last name born Norway 1856-1860 living in Watonwan county, Minnesota 1880:
Marie Melheim
birth: 1859 Norway
residence: 1880 St. James, Watonwan, Minnesota, United States
other: Margret Johnson
In the 1865 Norwegian census found no farms named Melheim but 15 named Mælheim in Hafslo.
Mary Domas
birth: 1857 Norway
residence: 1880 Riverdale, Watonwan, Minnesota, United States
other: Erick Hagestude, Hansena Hagestude, Martha Olson, Clara Hagestude, Anna Hagestude, Mary Hagestude
In the 1865 Norwegian census found 7 farms with Domaas as the name or part of the name all in Dovre.
Marith Tastensen
Daughter
birth: 1859 Norway
residence: 1880 Nelson, Watonwan, Minnesota, United States
father: Tasten Tastensen
other: Halvord Tastensen |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 14/06/2014 : 22:57:19
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Jackie your above reference to Marie Melheim struck a cord with me. I realized that on of the people you have listed as a witness to the births of the various children of Mary (Marit) was named Melheim, actually C Melheim.
Here is a Melheim family living in Watonwan in 1880. This Iver is also know as Ever in various records.
1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Iver Melhime
Age: 54
Birth Year: abt 1826
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Odin, Watonwan, Minnesota
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Karn Melhime
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's name: Gertrude Melhime
Mother's Birthplace: Nor
Neighbors:
Occupation: Farmer
Household Members:
Name Age
Iver Melhime 54
Karn Melhime 52
Claus Melhime 24
Karn Melhime 19
Dorthea Melhime 14
Einer Melhime 11
Gertrude Melhime 86
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Looking for Marit Oleson
