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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 11/08/2014 : 16:38:25
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1940 US census
Stoughton, Dane,Wisconsin
Albert Amundsen 32 b abt 1908 Illinois
Mildred 30 b Wisconsin
James 6
David 4
Checking obits on legacy.com for the family in Stoughton leads me to believe forum located correct family for Julie.
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Timeline for Einar
from lyndal40:
1873 BIRTH
Einar Valdemar Juul Amundsen:
06 March 1873 and baptized 14 April, from churchbook Kopervik i Avaldsnes, Rogaland fylke, Norway:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070103350735.jpg
1875 census in Kopervik, Rogaland, as posted earlier
1896
Travel to USA for Einar, from New York Passenger Lists (Ancestry)
Name: Einar V Amundsen
Arrival Date: 6 Nov 1896
Birth Date: abt 1873
Age: 23 Years 7 Months
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Britannic
1897
Cook County, Illinois, Marriages (as indexed on Ancestry)
Name: Tomine Larsen
Age: 20
Gender: Female
Birth Year: abt 1877
Marriage Type: Marriage
Marriage Date: 27 Nov 1897
Marriage Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Spouse Name: Einar W J Amundson
Spouse Age: 24
1900 US census, as posted before
Einer Amundsen 26 b March 1874 Norway, to USA 1893
Tomine Amundsen 23 b Jan 1877 Norway, to USA 1893, married 2 years
Nora Amundsen 1
Alfred Amundsen 25
John Mathieson 32
1910 US census, as posted
1916
Illinois, Deaths and Stillbirths (Ancestry.com)
Name: Tomena Amundson [Tomena Larson]
Birth Date: 21 Jan 1877
Birth Place: Norway
Death Date: 11 Jun 1916
Death Place: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Burial Date: 13 Jun 1916
Burial Place: MT Olive
Death Age: 39
Occupation: Housewife
Race: White
Marital Status: M
Gender: Female
Father Name: Larson
Father Birth Place: Norway
Mother Birth Place: Norway
FHL Film Number: 1852181
Sep 1918
World War I Draft Registration
Einar Waldemar Amundsen, age 45
Born 6 Mar 1873
Residence:
2441 N. Kildare Avenue in Chicago, Cook, Illinois, USA
Naturalized US Citizen
Occupation: Hydraulic Pressman for Western Electric Co
Nearest relative: Miss Nora Amundsen at same address
and his brother Alfred WWI Draft Registration
Alfred Amdesn Amundson (as spelled in index, Ancestry.com)
Born 28 Jun 1874
Residence: Elmwood, Cook, Illinois
Occupation: Pressman, Western Electric Co
1920 US Census
Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Einor Amundsen 46 born about 1874 Norway
Nora Amundsen 21b Illinois
Albert Amundsen 11 b Illinois
Walter Amundsen 9 b Illinois
1925
A trip home to Norway, traveling together:
New York Passenger Lists (Ancestry.com)
Departed Stavanger on the ship Bergensfjord
Arrived NY 25 Jul 1925
Alfred Amundsen age 51, married, US citizen Sep 1900, Elmwood Park, Illinois
Einar Amundsen, age 52, widowed, US citizen Oct 1900, 2225 Kostner Ave, Chicago
1930 US census, as posted
living with brother Alfred and wife Johanna in Leyden, Cook, Illinois
1930
Another trip home to Norway, traveling alone:
Departed Oslo on the ship Stavangerfjord
Arrived NY 26 Aug 1930
Einar Amundsen age 57, widowed
Citizenship filed at Superior Court, Chicago, Cook, Ill, Oct 11, 1900
U.S. Passport #284751
Residence: 26-103 N. 74th Street, Chicago
Did he remarry? The following needs more research to identify this Einar.
1940
Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Einar Amundsen 69
Marie Amundsen 60
George Olson 41 widowed son
Alfred Olson 40 widowed son
1960
Died Mar. 31, 1960, buried Mount Olive in Chicago, where wife Tomine and brother Alfred are buried |
Edited by - JaneC on 12/08/2014 14:34:30 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 11/08/2014 : 17:53:36
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Good, maybe we can add a little data on the family from Norway then. Here are two entries from the Norwegian Census. In 1865 it looks as if Nils (Niels) has a different wife than in the 1875 Census posted earlier by Jane. However the birth years 1843 are the same for the two ladies, so is it just that they used different names in the two different census.
NHDC 1865
NHDC 1875 |
Edited by - AntonH on 11/08/2014 17:56:58 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 11/08/2014 : 18:00:05
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Could be.
"Christy - yanna" (Christiane)
"Yanna" (Janna)
Maybe a Norwegian cousin of Julie's was searching for info here:
http://forum.arkivverket.no/topic/176305-familien-amundsen-juuljuuhl/
Family Search Family Tree includes parents for Tomine,
Lars Erikson b 1825 and Serina Mikalsdotter
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/99C2-FBR
Here is the family the Family Search tree is claiming for Tomine:
http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/WebCens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=7&filnamn=f61124&gardpostnr=70&personpostnr=413&merk=413#ovre
1865 Norway Census at Haga farm in Haaland, Rogaland
Lars Eriksen 40 b Haalands
Serina Mikkelsd. 36 b Haa
Enok 12
Martin 10
Tollev 8
Lars 6
Ole G age 1
Elen O age 14
Serina age 3
living with them are probably Serina's parents:
Mikkel Sebjĝrnsen 67 b Helland
Taletta Klausd 64 b Egersund
On first glance (not having checked Tomina birth) this looks credible, as an 1893 immigration for Tomine Larsen age 16 is traveling with Josephine Larsen 22 - and this family has a daughter Karen Josephine b 1871.
New York, Passenger Lists (Ancestry)
Name: Tomine Larson
Arrival Date: 22 Jun 1893
Birth Date: abt 1877
Age: 16 Years 5 Months
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Port of Departure: Christiansand, Norway
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Italia |
Edited by - JaneC on 11/08/2014 18:18:28 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 11/08/2014 : 19:36:46
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Originally posted by Julie Amundsen
My grandfather, Albert Einar Amundsen came from Norway as a small boy with his father, Einar, and his brother. I was able to find their names on a (I think) 1917 passenger list to New York.
I wanted to keep searching for their lineage in Norway, but I don't know how to search. I don't have much information and this may be my problem.
I'm one of many people who've been told we are related to Roald Amundsen however my instinct, with just the little I've been able to find, is not true. There are a lot of Amundsens out there. I would love however to find our family lines and go to visit some of my distant relatives in Norway.
Can anyone shed light on how to go about searching?
Since you do not have much information I wonder if it is a misunderstanding.
Your Albert Einar was born in America, father Einar Waldemar Juul Amundsen, son of Merchant Nils Amundsen and Kristiane Elisabeth Juuhl.
Einar also had a brother Alfred Amandius Emil Amundsen born June 23. 1874 mentioned on page 1.
Both em. to America, but when Einar Waldemar was confirmated Oct. 9. 1887 their father Nils was already in America, see parents right page for Einar Waldemar #8 .."Handelsmand" Merchant Nils Amundsen, America...
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Edited by - Kċarto on 11/08/2014 20:04:33 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 11/08/2014 : 22:56:05
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Interesting Family Tree on Ancestry.com which appears to be owned by the same person who posted on Digitalarkivet Forum found by Jane . That is Halvor Skurtveit. On the Ancestry Tree he uses the username and address of
halsku
Fjell kommune (Sotra), near Bergen, Norway
In his listing of the wife of Nils Amundsen he lists her name to include both the names found in the 1865 and 1875 Norwegian Census.
Christiane (Janna) Elisabeth Juuhl
Birth 1843 in Brattholmen, Fjell, Hordaland, Norway
Death 1905 in Kopervik, Rogaland, Norway |
Edited by - AntonH on 11/08/2014 22:56:52 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 11/08/2014 : 23:09:52
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Likely the Baptism Record for Christiane Elisabeth Juuhl from Ancestry.com. Could not find it in the Digitalarkivet records.
Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 about Christiane Elisabeth J.
Name: Christiane Elisabeth J.
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 13 okt 1843 (13 Oct 1843)
Baptism Date: 18 okt 1843 (18 Oct 1843)
Baptism Place: , Fjell, Hordaland, Norway
Father: J. V. Juul
Mother: Engel_ Magnussen
FHL Film Number: 124507 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 11/08/2014 : 23:17:05
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Father to Christiane Elisabet was
Johan Vilhelm Juuhl
Birth 1794 in Bergen, Hordaland, Norway
Death 1868 in Kopervik, Rogaland, Norway
Good coverage of him and his family and his wife Engel Karine in
http://fjell.bibliotekivest.no/juuhl/biografi.htm |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 12/08/2014 : 00:12:24
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Nils Amundsen probably died in USA and is not mentioened in Christianes death record.
(Christiane) Janne Amundsen "Enke?" Widow? died of "Krĉft" Cancer July 6. 1905,down page #2
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Edited by - Kċarto on 12/08/2014 00:14:33 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 12/08/2014 : 00:12:31
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Einar death record as indexed at Family Search:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/QV9N-LY45
Name: Einar W Amundsen
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 31 Mar 1960
Event Place: , Cook, Illinois, United States
Address: 2833 n nordica ave
Gender: Male
Age: 87
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Occupation: Pressman
Birth Date: 06 Mar 1873
Birthplace: , , Norway
Cemetery: Mt Olive
Father's Name: Nils Amundsen
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Juhl
Entry Number: 19287 |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 12/08/2014 : 00:32:07
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Alfred 1910
Alfred 1920
Alfred and Einar 1930
Kċre |
Edited by - Kċarto on 12/08/2014 00:34:01 |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 12/08/2014 : 00:59:16
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Christiane Elisabeths bapt. was not easy to find, she was first bapt. at home by the pastor Oct. 18. 1843 and bapt. in Church Mai 5. 1844.
Parents; Skipper and Guesthouse owner J.V Juul and wife Engel Juul born Magnesen (Magnusen?), Place of living; Bratholmen, see last bapt #33
She was bapt. in Strusshamn Church at Bratholmen that was lost in a fire Sept. 8. 1861.
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Julie Amundsen
Starting member
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Posted - 12/08/2014 : 05:11:11
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I love it! Reading through all of these posts is so great to see!
In talking with my mom, she remembers my grandfather (Albert) sister and brother (Nora and Walter). She did remember that my great grandfather (Einar) was widowed but remembers my dad (Albert's son David) calling his Einar's wife "Tasha Hanna". I have a feeling as a child he probably heard the name and pronounced it differently but my mom seems to think that my great grandfather was maybe with another woman at that time.
I'm hoping that if I look up Nils Amundsen I'll be able to find more consistent connections. I wasn't able to follow all of the posts, because some of the ages and names didn't quite fit together.
Thank you SO MUCH for posting all these! It is overwhelming to see how much help others (that have experience in this) can be of such great help in such little time!!
I'm so excited about my Norwegian roots and will keep on searching.
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Originally posted by JaneC
Einar death record as indexed at Family Search:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/QV9N-LY45
Name: Einar W Amundsen
Event Type: Death
Event Date: 31 Mar 1960
Event Place: , Cook, Illinois, United States
Address: 2833 n nordica ave
Gender: Male
Age: 87
Marital Status: Widowed
Race: White
Race (Original): White
Occupation: Pressman
Birth Date: 06 Mar 1873
Birthplace: , , Norway
Cemetery: Mt Olive
Father's Name: Nils Amundsen
Mother's Name: Elizabeth Juhl
Entry Number: 19287
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 12/08/2014 : 16:06:54
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Hello Julie, yes in the way that we went about hunting down your ancestors the results can be a little confusing. However I think the family line from you to your family in Norway is fairly clear.
Julie
Faher David Amundsen born in Stoughton Wisconsin died in Petaluma California
Father Albert Amundsen born in Chicago Illinois died in Wisconsin
Father Einar Amudnsen born in Norway died in Illinois wife Tomina Larsdatter
All well documented above and probably known by you,
Father of Einar is
Nils Amundsen
Birth 1837 in Bjerkreim, Rogaland, Norway
Mother is
Christiane (Janna) Elisabeth Juuhl
Birth 1843 in Brattholmen, Fjell, Hordaland, Norway
Death 1905 in Kopervik, Rogaland, Norway
The ancestors of Nils Amundsen are currently a mystery however the ancestors of Christiane Elisabeth Juuhl are well know and well covered on the internet. One of the best Famly Trees for this famly is on Ancestry.com which I think you may have access to since there are two trees on there that seem to belong to either you or a relative. If you have access to Ancestry go to the Family Tree section and type in the name of Christiane Juuhl and go to the tree owned by halsku. There you will find your family down to your great-grandfather Einar Amudnsen. You can then trace the Juuhl family back to the early 1600's in Norway. |
Edited by - AntonH on 12/08/2014 16:07:39 |
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AntonH
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Help Finding Albert Einar Amundsen from Norway
