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amyanderson75
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Posted - 28/08/2014 :  01:44:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe you should contact the Schubert family in NSW, work backwards to see if you can put that "rumor" to rest. Looks like the evidence I can find points that the rumor of him being Schubert are true He disappeared, nobody knows what happened to Schubert, his sister is Christina... .At least you'd know one way or another. Maybe he was hiding something? I am sure it would be a relief to find out either way. I have plenty of surprises I have found out looking for information on long lost relatives.

Amy A.
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/08/2014 :  01:53:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And the birth record for the sister?

Australia Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Christina Schubert
Birth Date: 1888
Father's Name: Joseph Schubert
Mother's name: Lucy
Birth Place: New South Wales
Registration Year: 1888
Registration Place: Taree, New South Wales
Registration Number: 24239
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/08/2014 :  01:58:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This information was found on a Family Tree posted on Ancestry.com and seems to be the evidence that is used to show that James H Schubert and Edward De Leiuen are one and the same person.

"Source: email - Jenny Bolton (nee Jennifer Fancis Cluse)
Date: July 6 2009
Citation text:
Information supplied by William Bitossi (descendent) and supported by a 'railway worker's card" obtained by the family - card registered as James H Schubert (known as Edward De Leiuen)
The De Lieuen information has been obtained by William Bitossi from Robyn Bray's Family History Website. Contact robynbray@ozemail.com.au"

Here is a link to her website

http://www.thetreeofus.net/

Edited by - AntonH on 28/08/2014 02:01:17
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amyanderson75
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Posted - 28/08/2014 :  01:58:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ive also noticed that a lot of the family histories in regards to the Schubert family, leave James H Schubert out of them... maybe because he abandoned the family? Or another reason:

http://www.geocities.ws/schubert_wylie/Joseph_Schubert2.html

Amy A.
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/08/2014 :  02:25:12  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Not all of them tho. One Family Tree on Ancestry.com has the family of Joseph Schubert b 1854 NSW and his wife Lucy Clayton Hadley b 1859 NSW and their 14 children including James Hadley Schubert. Oldest Joseph born in 1878 and youngest Lennox Garfield Roy born in 1904. James Hadley is a middle child born in 1892. His father Joseph Schubert was born in 1854 in NSW and the partriach of the family was

Franz Wilhelm SCHUBERT
Birth 14 June 1825 in Epfenbach,Heidelberg, Lower Baden, Germany
Death 21 Sept 1886 in Pampoolah, New South Wales, Australia

Who arrived in 1853

Name: Wilhelm Schubar
Birth Year: abt 1826
Age: 27
Arrival Date: 3 May 1853
Vessel Name: Triton
Origin Location: St Slgen, Barrka
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gairath
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Posted - 28/08/2014 :  02:25:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And to add to that theory..there has never been a death certificate for James Hadley Shubert..and yes he was born in Australia...looks like it could be down to dna...it w
ould be nice to know our correct heritage..

G Rathborne
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/08/2014 :  03:57:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes exploring DNA seems in this case to be a viable option. Edward James De Lieuen had a son
Hessell Aubrey De LIEUEN who may have a son still alive.

James Hadley Schubert had ten brothers, I would expect that at least one of them has a son still alive

That would at least give you a DNA comparison between male second cousins, not bad for DNA work.


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