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Jcarrier
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Posted - 11/12/2014 :  21:03:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
[This is seriously amazing!]Originally posted by lyndal40

Another Wisconsin birth record for a son. Son not shown on any Census. But the record does provide a good name for Olaus (Oliver).

Wisconsin, Births and Christenings Index, 1826-1908
Name: Robert Johan Andersen Lee [ **
This is Albert- 1st son - same birth date]
Birth Date: 18 Dec 1881
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 26 Mar 1882
Baptism Place: Our Savior's Lutheran Church, Eeau Claire, Eau Claire, Wisconsin
Father's Name: Olaus Andersen Lee
Mother's name: Lorentine Birgitte Anderson
FHL Film Number: 1316548
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AntonH
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Posted - 11/12/2014 :  22:02:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This may be Lorentine and her foster family in the 1870 US Census, shortly after their arrival into the United States. Here Jens is using his patronymic surname ie a version of Kristian or Christian. And Lorentine is named Laura. All of the family born in Norway.

1870 United States Federal Census
Name: Jens Christian
Age in 1870: 40
Birth Year: abt 1830
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1870: Colfax, Dunn, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: Menomonie
Value of real estate:
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Household Members:
Name Age
Jens Christian 40
Sophia Christian 38
Edward Christian 9
Laura Christian 15

Edited by - AntonH on 11/12/2014 22:18:23
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Jcarrier
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Posted - 11/12/2014 :  22:59:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Lena's first born daughter is named Julia Sophia- interesting



quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

This may be Lorentine and her foster family in the 1870 US Census, shortly after their arrival into the United States. Here Jens is using his patronymic surname ie a version of Kristian or Christian. And Lorentine is named Laura. All of the family born in Norway.

1870 United States Federal Census
Name: Jens Christian
Age in 1870: 40
Birth Year: abt 1830
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1870: Colfax, Dunn, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Post Office: Menomonie
Value of real estate:
View image
Household Members:
Name Age
Jens Christian 40
Sophia Christian 38
Edward Christian 9
Laura Christian 15


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Kåarto
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Posted - 11/12/2014 :  23:01:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kåarto

So it was Lorentines father that came from Krognes.

Olaus was born in Vestre Toten Dec. 20. 1850.



Olaus Andreasen bapt. record from Jan1. 1851, born Dec. 20. 1850, see #5
He was born on farm Karsrud

Vestre Toten

Have I missed something Where does the Albert name comes from?

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Jcarrier
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Posted - 11/12/2014 :  23:26:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I believe this child to be the first born son - Albert they share the same birth date and year. I know sometimes Baptism papers are not the same as a birth certificate. Mine are not matching.




quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

Another Wisconsin birth record for a son. Son not shown on any Census. But the record does provide a good name for Olaus (Oliver).

Wisconsin, Births and Christenings Index, 1826-1908
Name: Robert Johan Andersen Lee
Birth Date: 18 Dec 1881
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 26 Mar 1882
Baptism Place: Our Savior's Lutheran Church, Eeau Claire, Eau Claire, Wisconsin
Father's Name: Olaus Andersen Lee
Mother's name: Lorentine Birgitte Anderson
FHL Film Number: 1316548


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Jcarrier
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Posted - 12/12/2014 :  00:13:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote

I believe they are brothers. they are buried in the same cemetery - Good work!

quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

Listed as a boarder on the original census but given a separate page on the transcription is Mathias Lee, perhaps a relative?

1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Mathias Lee
Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1859
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Eau Claire, Eau Claire, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors:
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Occupation: Lumberman


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Jcarrier
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Posted - 12/12/2014 :  00:17:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am not understanding were we find "foster parents" I thought we just found her parents- did they remain in the old country - and sent lena over with another family ? sorry for my "duh" on this.

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AntonH
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Posted - 12/12/2014 :  01:08:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Remember the 1865 Norwegian Census. There is a link to it on a previous page, but here is part of it. Notice after Lorentines name it states she is a fosterdatter.


Name Family status Marital status Occupation Birth year Place of birth Ethnicity
Jens Kristian Johnsen hf g Gaardbruger, selveier 1828 Lenvik
Sofie Kalsdatter Hans kone g 1832 Lenvik
Johan Gerhard Berg Fostersøn ug 1853 Lenvik kvæn
Lorentine Andreasdatter Fosterdatter ug 1856 Lenvik bl kvænsk norsk
Karl Johan Hansen ug Selvholder, fisker 1845 Lenvik
Pauline Andreasdatter ug Tjenestepige 1847 Lenvik
Karl Jensen g Kaarmand 1800 Lenvik qvæn?

We then found her birth record in which her parents are listed. This is both in Digitalarkivet and a record from Ancestry.com. The link to Digitalarkivet is in the same post as the 1865 Census. Here is the Ancestry.com record. Note that her birth father first name is Andreas thus her last name in the Census of Andreasdatter and not Jensdatter after her fosterfather.

Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 about Lorentine Bergitte Andreas Mathiasdatter
Name: Lorentine Bergitte Andreas Mathiasdatter
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 29 jun 1856
Baptism Date: 17 aug 1856
Baptism Place: Lenvik, Troms, Norway
Father: Andreas Mathias Eriksen
Mother: Margrette Marie Pedersdr
FHL Film Number: 307170

Just in case you need it, here again is the link to the 1865 Norwegian Census.

NHDC 1865

And here is the link that Einar provided to a clearer baptismal record than the one I provided. There are two books for this parish for their records. See number 96

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=2894&idx_id=2894&uid=ny&idx_side=-17

Edited by - AntonH on 12/12/2014 01:14:34
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Jcarrier
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Posted - 12/12/2014 :  03:50:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
lyndal40 - ! Looking at the 1865 baptismal record #96 and then on #97 ( Thanks Einar )
I see below that the foster parents are listed - Jens, Sophia Kristian.

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AntonH
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Posted - 12/12/2014 :  05:42:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes they are listed in the godparents column. I see that the mother of the child is named Karoline Carlsdatter Kragnæs. Could very well be a sister of Sophie Karlsdatter foster mother of Leontine and of course a godparent of this child..

Edited by - AntonH on 12/12/2014 05:49:59
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AntonH
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Posted - 12/12/2014 :  05:48:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Have I missed something Where does the Albert name comes from?


A guess would be, He is new to the United States and is called Olaus Andreasen Lie, so he becomes over a short time Oliver Albert Lee. A rather English sounding name I would think.

I am a little puzzled by my lack of ability in finding the emigration of either Olaus or his brother Mathias in the Norwegian records or the immigration of either entering either the US or Canada in the Ancestry.com records.

I did find this group leaving in 1873 with a Mathias. Might be them??

http://gda.arkivverket.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=9&filnamn=EMIOSLO&gardpostnr=26996&merk=26996#ovre

And here

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000417365

Edited by - AntonH on 12/12/2014 06:03:28
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eibache
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Posted - 12/12/2014 :  09:14:33  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
I did find this group leaving in 1873 with a Mathias. Might be them??


It is them, except that Gina Gulbrandsdatter should have been written Guri Gulbrandsdatter.

Looks like the father Andreas Olsen and Olaus have emigrated earlier (possibly 1871) and the rest of the family followed in 1873.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 12/12/2014 09:19:05
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eibache
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Posted - 12/12/2014 :  09:23:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This might be Andreas Olsen.

This may be a candidate for Olaus.


Einar

Edited by - eibache on 12/12/2014 09:27:08
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Kåarto
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Posted - 12/12/2014 :  13:59:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jcarrier

I am not understanding were we find "foster parents" I thought we just found her parents- did they remain in the old country - and sent lena over with another family ? sorry for my "duh" on this.



Maybe both parents were dead.

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Kåarto
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Posted - 12/12/2014 :  14:20:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Her mother was Margrete Marie Pedersdatter Krognes.

Oct. 29. 1859 in Lenvik "Gardkone" Farmers wife (she was not a widow) Grete Margrethe Pedersdatter died on Krognes #43

I am not sure that this is her mother.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 12/12/2014 19:40:18
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