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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 13/02/2015 : 13:30:31
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Here on Find a Grave website is a likely candidate to be Alfred Swensen's daughter Ruth, listed in 1940 census as married to Arthur Eriksen. The two are nine years apart in age (in 1940 she's 20, he's 29). More research needed.
Ruth M. Eriksen (1919-1998)
Arthur Eriksen (1910-1981)
burial together at Breslau Cemetery, North Lindenhurst, Suffolk County, New York
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Hjalmar Swensen's daughter Dorothy Swensen Barlow born 1929 died in 1994. Obit on Find a Grave.
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Two public family trees on Ancestry.com website (called the Kilcer Family Tree and the Barlow Tree)
include photos of Hjalmar, his wife, and "the Swensen girls" on Court Street in Brooklyn.
Dorothy's obit names her sister Marion (Swensen) Larsen of Corfu, (Genesee county), New York. Below is a 2010 obit from Corfu, New York for Kenneth A Larsen who had parents Marion Swensen and Andrew Larsen. Likely to be Hjalmar's grandson.
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The link below is probably a web page for Kenneth's sister (and husband) and allows you to leave a message.
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Judy also has a Facebook page (profile includes her maiden name and married name). An option is to send a friend request and message her. Again, she is likely Hjalmar's granddaughter.
1940 US census
New York, Kings, New York
Court Street
Hjalmar Swensen 51 born Norway, watchman
Clara Swensen 46 b Norway
Marion Swensen 15 b New York
Dorothy Swensen 10 b New York
Residence in 1935: same place
More cousins! |
Edited by - JaneC on 13/02/2015 22:34:49 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 13/02/2015 : 15:56:04
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And more...
Hjalmar's daughter Esther M Swensen Swartz (1919-1997) is also memorialized on Find a Grave. Her obit is posted. Names her parents as Carl H. and Klara Keese Swensen. Her husband Charles Swartz pre-deceased her in 1959. Surviving children are mentioned and as of 1997 included a son living in....wait for it....Australia.
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I added a 1930 census for Alfred on previous page. The following records confirm the posted US census records are the correct Alfred (Johan Alfred Fritjof).
A reminder, Johan Alfred Fritjof Svendsen was born 10 Dec 1892. 1910 census said he was born in Moss: Link
World War II Draft Registration
Alfred John Svendsen
Born 10 Dec 1892 in Moss, Norway
Residence: 1530 East 57th Street, Brooklyn, Kings, New York
Employer: New York Dock Co., 374 Furman Street, Brooklyn
Nearest relative: Hjalmar Svendsen, 443 Court Street, Brooklyn
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Alfred's emigration 1924, incoming manifest (Ancestry.com)
"Declaration of Passenger to Canada"
Departure: Christiania, Norway
Arrival: 24 April 1924 Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada
Ship: S/S Bergensfjord
Alfred Svendsen, age 31
Born about 1893 Moss, Norway
Occupation: Sailor
Scandinavian, Lutheran
Object in going to Canada: Getting employment
Do you intend to remain permanently in Canada? und
Paid for his own passage, destination Hotel Carlton in Halifax
Nearest relative in country from which you came:
Wife Ragnhild Svendsen, Bakkeveien 5, Fr.hald, Norway
Petition for Naturalization * U.S. Naturalization Records (Ancestry.com)
District Court, Eastern District, New York * 24 Sep 1926
Alfred Svendsen, 33
Birth: 10 Dec 1892 Fredrikshold, Norway
Spouse: Ragnhild
Children:
1) Kaare, born 4 Sep 1915
2) Ruth, born 8 June 1918
3) Grace, 24 Nov 1929
"1st 2 children born in Norway and third born in Brooklyn; all children reside at 523 51st Street
Residence: 523 51st Street, Brooklyn
Occupation: Dock builder
Last foreign residence: Fredrihshald, Norway
Married 10 December 1916, Fredukohold, Norway
Entered U.S. September 30, 1924, St Johns N.B. Canada to Boston on the ship Governor Dingley
Ragnhild traveled with children Kaare and Ruth, arriving New York 30 Apr 1926 on the Stavangerfjord, destination husband Alfred Svendsen at 523 51st, Brooklyn NY, whether to stay in USA "undecided."
here. Passenger manifest lists her father as Karl Robert Simensen, Bakkeveien 5, Fredrikshald, Norway
Ragnhild in the 1910 Norway census:
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And Ragnhild earlier, in 1900:
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Edited by - JaneC on 14/02/2015 15:44:36 |
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johnswensen
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 14/02/2015 : 01:08:21
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Wow..... I am getting inundated with the amount of cousins that are beginning to turn up. I can see I am going to have to formalise this a bit as I keep going from one post to the other and confusing myself. So it seems to me that the USA branch of the family settled in or around New York. Interestingly I served in Afghanistan with an American Swensen from New York. We both laughed a bit as we are the same height and build with the same spiky hair and we both have very scandinavian features. Other Soldiers, both American and Australians joked that we were long lost brothers.....
As to the comments about Hjalmar's build... it fits as pretty well as all of the Aussie Swensen men were around 5'5" to 5'7" with muscular stocky builds. I was previously the tall one at 5'10". My son, is the first Swensen male to top 6' in height..... |
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johnswensen
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 14/02/2015 : 06:22:07
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Does the following address still exist?
488 Liljegd-Strandgaden in Halden, Østfold
That was where Svendt was living with Tomine when the Census was done in 1900. I can't find it.... but possibly because I do not know how modern Norwegians set out their addresses.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/02/2015 : 09:13:01
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Liljegata exists, its a small narrow street, # 488 does not exist as a street number today link.
See the houses and pan/rotate with the circle in the upper left hand corner
Houses.
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 14/02/2015 : 17:07:55
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From an interesting website on history of the town's neighborhoods, photo of children in Svend August's generation:
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A view of Liljegata, same website:
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Halden harbor postcards, turn of the last century:
http://haldenkort.net/galleriHavna.php
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 14/02/2015 : 19:35:58
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Try this for Sven August Swensen's father - at least, it seems to be the man Jackie found coming into Moss in 1888 on this Link
Sweden, Indexed Birth Records, 1860-1941 (Ancestry.com database)
Child's Given Name: Sven August
Gender: Man (Male)
Birth Date: 24 jan 1865
Birth Place: Augerum, Blekinge, Sweden
Mother: Gertrud Svensdotter
Mother Birth Date: abt 1834
Mother Age: 31
Baptized February 3, 1865
GID Number: 1623.87.50000
Roll/Fiche Number: LK-1219
Swedish Church Records Archive; Johanneshov, Sweden; Sweden, Indexed Birth Records, 1880-1920; GID Number: 1623.87.50000; Roll/Fiche Number: LK-1219; Year Range: 1862-1874
No father listed. The original handwritten record is viewable on Ancestry.com. A word I can't read might be an abbreviation for "utanför äktenskapet" (out of wedlock). The mother is noted as "pige" - unmarried woman.
More info provided but I'm out of my area to try to interpret it.
Maybe some help here:
http://aforum.genealogi.se/discus/messages/2450/2450.html?1423250095
Swedish Husförhörslängd (Household Examination Rolls) for Augerum (1861-1868), image 47 on the Ancestry.com system, shows unmarried Gertrud Svensdtr born 1833 in Th--?--, arrived in the parish in 1853, has a daughter Emma Christina born 02 Oct 1858 in Augerum and son Sven August born 24 January 1865.
Found Emma Christina's birth record, and again no father is named. Augerum church book (1848-1861), image 123 on the Ancestry system. Mother age 25 1/4 at that time.
I think the records in all three cases (Sven birth, Emma birth, household exam record) have this family in Rörsmåla, Augerum, Blekinge, but I find the R word very hard to read. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 15/02/2015 : 17:50:26
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Again referring to the innflyttar record for a Sven August Larsen, born 24 Jan 1865 in Augerum, Sweden, coming into Moss Oct 1888: the record notes an attest of vaccination (presumably against smallpox) dated... 6/1 1888.
In Sven August Larsen marriage record 09 Nov 1888,
attest of vaccination is dated... 6/1 1888.
An indication it is the same Sven.
Also married 09 Nov 1888 same church is Hansine Lovise Eriksen b 1865 in Fr.hald with father Karl Eriksen.
Tomine Mariane Eriksen had a sister Hansine age 1 in the 1865 census.
Hansine married Marinius Jensen? S undt? of Denmark.
Seems same name (Marinius Jensen? Sundt?) as a witness for Sven and Tomine wedding, along with the bride's father (Karl Eriksen).
A double wedding for sisters?
Karl Oskar Hjalmar born 27 February 1888, baptized 10 January 1889 in Halden, #20:
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20061003040082.jpg
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 15/02/2015 : 19:50:43
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Originally posted by johnswensen
Wow..... I am getting inundated with the amount of cousins that are beginning to turn up. I can see I am going to have to formalise this a bit as I keep going from one post to the other and confusing myself. So it seems to me that the USA branch of the family settled in or around New York. Interestingly I served in Afghanistan with an American Swensen from New York. We both laughed a bit as we are the same height and build with the same spiky hair and we both have very scandinavian features. Other Soldiers, both American and Australians joked that we were long lost brothers.....
Truth is stranger than fiction. Genealogical literature is filled with siblings raised / adopted separately in divergent geographical areas who find each other and marry. Perhaps there's something genetic going on with that. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Judi
New on board
USA
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Posted - 05/10/2015 : 15:35:58
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Hello,
I am Alfred's great-granddaughter. Grace is my grandmother. Alfred mentioned having a brother in Australia, but we never had the details. If Sven is his brother, this would be a great help in figuring out the family tree!
Judi
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 05/10/2015 : 18:16:20
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Hi Judi,
Yes, Sven (Svend August Swensen b 1894) is Alfred's brother. :D
You can contact Svend August's descendant in Australia by clicking on his username and sending an email.
The name "Frederikshald" later became "Halden." You see both in this thread. Read more here
Here's a little organization, listing Tomine Eriksen's children (I've omitted the Johan Alfred born 1890 who had to have died young). Omits lots of information available in the thread and probably still much more known to you. A caution - do proofread this.
TOMINE'S FIRST MARRIAGE
Svend August Larsen - b 1865 Sweden [likely 24 Jan 1865 in Augerum, Blekinge] to Norway 1888, father Johan August Larsen
Tomine Mariane "MINE" Eriksen born 15 Aug 1867 Fredrikshald, parents Karl Eriksen, Andrine Gundersdatter
married 09 November 1888
CHILDREN in Tomine's first marriage
1. Carl Oskar HJALMAR Svendsen b 27 Aug 1888 Fredrikshald - to USA - in Brooklyn at least by 1918, died NY 1973
2. Johan ALFRED Fritjof Svendsen b 10 Dec 1892 in Moss - left Norway 1924, in Brooklyn NY USA 1930, in New York NY 1940
3. Svend AUGUST "GUS" Svendsen born 15 May 1894 in Halden, Østfold - to Australia, d 1951 buried Cheltenham cemetery
CHILD by Tomine and Hjalmar Lindberg
4. Einar Fritjof Svendsen b 1898 - his father was Hjalmar Lindberg - not listed in his mother's 1931 probate; missing in 1910 census
TOMINE'S SECOND MARRIAGE
to August (Olsen) (Simensen) born 26 Dec 1873 Berg, Østfold, father Simon Olsen
CHILDREN of Tomine second marriage
5. Aksel (Olsen) Simensen born 1901 Fredrikshald married Ragnhild Marie - lived in Halden 1931
6. Reidar (Olsen) born 12 June 1906 Fredrikshald; married Berthe Sofie, lived in Halden 1931
7. Viljam [Ludvik] (Olsen) Simensen born 05 April 1907 Fredrikshald; lived in Halden 1931 |
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johnswensen
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 08/10/2015 : 00:45:45
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| I sent an email to Judi and hope she replies. I would like to tell her about "Gus", he had a very "interesting Life", being everything from a a sailor, to being a skipper of sail trading vessels, to being an investigator for the Australian Customs service,. He was also a lighthouse keeper at many remote lighthouses around the rugged South Australian coastline. Additionally he also served as a soldier in the Australian Army during both WW1 and WW2. His Son Ben served in WW2 in north Africa and New Guinea, and his Grandson, (me), served as an Infanry Soldier in East timor and Afghanistan, (where I met the other Swensen). The Australian Swensens have a bit of a tradition of service in the military. |
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Sven August Swensen, Orphan Born 15 May 1894
