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JaneC
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 Posted - 05/03/2015 : 02:03:26
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I'll throw in some more here re. the Wilson Neargarder family...
A tidy triangle of manageable distances is described by:
Waukegan and Highland Park and Deerfield in the north Chicago area in Illinois
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Milwaukee, Wisconsin
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Edgerton, Wisconsin (north of Janesville)
Wilson Neargarder's wife Clara B Moore Neargarder died 11 Jun 1932 in Highland Park, Lake county, Illinois, (residence Deerfield), spouse Wilson Neargarder.
1940 census
Highland Park, Lake county, Illinois
Wilson Neargarder 44 b abt 1897 Illinois; residence in 1935: Deerfield
Margaret Neargarder 28 b abt 1912 Wisconsin; residence in 1935: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Russell Neargarder 16
Wilson was a carpenter at a Naval training station in 1942 (per WWII draft registration previously posted)
U.S. Cities Directories database (Ancestry) includes the 1943 listing previously mentioned:
Waukegan, North Chicago, Illinois, USA * 624 N Jackson * Wilson and Myrtle - and
at same address Thomas E Neargarder USN, and Russell Neargarder USN (presumably USN = US Navy)
Next City Directories that show up are 1954, 1956, and 1957; Thomas E Neargarder and Russell Neargarder are in Waukegan, but no Wilson or Myrtle
1959 U.S. City Directories database (Ancestry)
on Lucia Avenue in Waukegan
Russell L Neargarder (Amelia L) and Wilson Neargarder (no Myrtle, no wife), and
Thomas E Neargarder (Phyllis)
Thomas and Russell both seem to have retired in Arkansas (names in city directories), which would explain Wilson Neargarder dying there.
Wilson Neargarder memorial on Find-a-Grave, no wife buried with him is mentioned on FAG:
Link
Find-a-Grave memorial for Thomas Eldon Neargarder includes an obituary, and names survivors, and names those who pre-deceased him. No mention of Myrtle Margaret. Thomas's family may remember stories of her:
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Russell has also passed away, his Find-a-Grave memorial here:
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jkmarler
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Posted - 05/03/2015 : 02:30:59
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According to familysearch there are 26 Myrtles b Wisconsin between 1912 and 1918 living in Rock county, Wisconsin in 1940. These are those who live in Edgerton:
Myrtle Johnson b 1915 married to Bernard Johnson
Myrtle Amundson b. 1915 m Norman Amundson
Myrtle Ellofson b. 1916 m to Otto Rucks (there are 2 children in household one with Ellofson and the other with Rucks, perhaps Myrtle is on a second marriage?)
Any of the married women could have the right maiden name without being visible.
Did Rock county do "marriage applications?" Sometimes counties did make you fill an application to marry with more information, typically though these have a short shelf life usually being destroyed.
These are the Myrtles born in Wisconsin 1914-1916 living in Jefferson county, Wisconsin (none in Cambridge) in 1920:
Myrtle Westphal b 1914 d/o William & Hattie
Myrtle F. Else b. 1914 d/o Herman & Nina
Myrtle Wittig b. 1914 d/o Ernest & Emma
Myrtle Neunach b. 1915 d/o Fred & Louisa Yanke*
Myrtle Gerstner b. 1916 d/o Emil & Bertha
Myrtle Johnson b. 1916 d/o John M. & Amelia
Myrtle M. Steinke b. 1916 d/o of Albert F. and Lollie
* different last name
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jkmarler
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larsoyane
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Posted - 05/03/2015 : 07:28:23
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Dear Jane, Jackie and other listers!
Thank you very much for your latest comments on this topic!
I have spent some time this morning "examining" the Neargarder name, and the frequency of it being used. It appears to be a fairly unique name originating from the Alsace/Lorraine area in France, and there are several similar spellings.
However, I can see NOONE named Morrise or Maurice, and there seems to be no Neargarders born in Wisconsin, at least not in the time span we are looking, and I wonder; I have seen cases of people "changing" their identities, unknown for which reason, and my eyes fell upon one Deane Neargarder, born in Illinois about 1914, who in 1940 resided at Highland Park, Lake Co., IL. Now, looking closer at the actual entry her name is not Deane, but IRENE, and she appears to be a sister of Wilson Neargarder called Mary Irene, born 1914.
Could Mary Irene Neargarder be the girl who in 1943 worked at the shoe factory in Edgerton, WI? IF her real name was indeed Neargarder, and her age is about right, this is the best alternative I have seen so far, unless, of course it is Wilson Neargarder's wife Myrtle Margaret, who "ran off" and wanted to start a "new life"? It was wartime, and perhaps easier to get away with identity "cheating"...? And Wilson's wife was indeed born in Wisconsin!
What do you think?
Very sincerely yours,
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jkmarler
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Posted - 05/03/2015 : 14:21:42
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If Alsace Loraine is their origin they could be Catholic and sometimes at baptism, Catholics get as many as 3 or 4 given and saint's names.
The Neargarder family from Deerfield Illinois mother's name was I believe Nellie as she got a spot in 1930 on the WWI mother's tour to visit Europe. The son Russell (brother to Wilson) was killed there.
The other thing is Wilson was about 20 years older than Myrtle Margaret, sometimes leads to "itchy" feet. |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/03/2015 : 16:33:08
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It looks as if Mary Irene Neargarder was living in Illinois and using her maiden name in 1948. She is listed as a floor walker at Kresge's in Chicago.
Name: Mary Neargarder I
Residence Year: 1948
Residence Place: Evanston, Illinois, USA
Occupation: Floorwn
Publication Title: Evanston, Illinois, City Directory, 1948 |
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JaneC
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Posted - 05/03/2015 : 16:35:24
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Looking again at the geography - Lars, are you sure Myrtle's marriage record 28 August 1943 in Edgerton (which is located in both Rock and Dane county, Wisconsin), says she was born in Cambridge, Jefferson county? Would seem more natural she was born in Cambridge, Dane county, Wisconsin.
Back in an edit - Cambridge is in both Dane and Jefferson county - one city. Thanks for the boost Jackie.
There were Jorstads / Jerstads in Cambridge, Dane, Wisconsin. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 05/03/2015 : 16:48:42
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Living on the borders. Wikipedia about Cambridge:
"Cambridge is a village in Dane and Jefferson counties in the U.S. state of Wisconsin. The population was 1,457 at the 2010 census. Of this, 1,348 were in Dane County, and 109 were in Jefferson County. Wikipedia" |
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/03/2015 : 16:49:16
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Here is a interesting person. Is this Mary Irene or a different person? Went back and took a careful look at the original, and I think the name is Irene and the transcriber misread it.
Deane Neargarder in the 1940 United States Federal Census
Name: Deane Neargarder
Age: 26
Estimated birth year: abt 1914
Gender: Female
Race: White
Birthplace: Illinois
Marital Status: Single
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Home in 1940: Highland Park, Lake, Illinois
Map of Home in 1940: View Map
Street: Ma Goveen Street
House Number: 4
Inferred Residence in 1935: Highland Park, Lake, Illinois
Residence in 1935: Same Place
Sheet Number: 10B
Occupation: Sales Clerk
Attended School or College: No
Highest Grade Completed: High School, 2nd year
Hours Worked Week Prior to Census: 48
Class of Worker: Wage or salary worker in private work
Weeks Worked in 1939: 52
Income: 780
Income Other Sources: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Richberger 58
Dorothy Caulkins 31
Deane Neargarder 26
Fred Dantel 35
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larsoyane
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Posted - 05/03/2015 : 17:08:44
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Dear Jackie, lyndal40, Jane and other listers!
Thank you very much for new contributions to this debate!
As Jackie already pointed out, Cambridge is on the County line between Dane and Jefferson Cos with the majority in Dane Co., WI. Then it's indeed interesting there are Jerstads in Cambridge. Could be a connection...!
And Mary Irene Neargarder appears NOT to be the one who married Philip Phillips, unless she returned to Lake Co., IL resuming her maiden name after her divorce from Philip in 1947?
I don't know what to think...
Thanks again for all of your thoughts on this topic!
Very sincerely yours,
Lars E. Oyane |
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JaneC
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Posted - 05/03/2015 : 17:30:32
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Yes, thanks to jkmarler, not sure why I didn't tumble to that. The mother"s name Diana Jerstid seems more reliable than the father's name of Morris Neargarder. Myrtle might have meant she has had surnames Morris and Neargarder; who knows. Jerstid is reminiscent of Jørstad. Could Diana be short for a Scandinavian name such as Randine? So far in a short look I didn't see a candidate to be the mom...thinking out loud.
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jkmarler
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larsoyane
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Posted - 05/03/2015 : 18:22:50
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Dear Jane, Jackie and other listers!
Thanks a million for new wonderful contributions! You must have found her, Jackie, just look at this entry in the California Death Index:
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Name: Myrtle D Wells
[Myrtle D Christenson]
Social Security #: 348187037
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 6 Oct 1915
Birth Place: Wisconsin
Death Date: 4 Jul 1991
Death Place: Humboldt
Mother's Maiden Name: Gjerstad
Father's Surname: Christenson
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Parents are Maurice and Diane, and mother's maiden name is GJERSTAD! It has to be her!
But WHERE did she get that Neargarder name, which was also "transferred" to her father?
Any suggestions?
Thanks again, Jackie! This made my day!
Very sincerely yours,
Lars E. Oyane |
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