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bodiliv
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Posted - 30/04/2015 :  01:17:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have been looking for Anders Nicolas Petersen Ljungkvist for quite some time now and are just to give up!
Anders Nicolas Petersen Ljungkvist, born Apr.19.1866 in Skalmeja, Skaraborg Sweden. Married in Norway 1892 to Anna Karoline Andersen Haug. They got four children and they lived in Kristiania Norway.. He immigratet to Amerika as a norwegian : Citing this Record:
"New York, Passenger Arrival Lists (Ellis Island), 1892-1924," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JF2N-LZN : accessed 29 April 2015), A. Ljungquist, 16 Sep 1902; citing departure port Glasgow, arrival port New York, ship name Laurentian, NARA microfilm publication T715 and M237 (Washington D.C.: National Archives and Records Administration, n.d.).
That is the last we know of him! His Family never heard from him again. I have searched all US Census in every state from 1900-1920. I have searched on Familysearch, Cindys list, My Herritage, Brooklyn lost & found, NO LUCK! Maybe somone can help me before I give up! He had a name that could vary a lot, Ljungkvist, Ljungqvist, Ljungquist. Anders, Andrew. and his middle name Niklas, Nicolaus, Nic and may more. Not easy!

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AntonH
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Posted - 30/04/2015 :  01:40:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is his arrival in the Ancestry.com collection. It states in the original manifest that he is going to visit his brother-in-law, Hans Houg (probably Haug) at bab?? 60 str Brooklyn, New York

Name: A Ljungquist
Arrival Date: 16 Sep 1902
Birth Date: abt 1866
Age: 36
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Laurentian

Edited by - AntonH on 30/04/2015 01:48:35
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AntonH
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Posted - 30/04/2015 :  02:42:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
So did Han Haug his brother-in-law travel to the America in the same year as Anders? Might this be Hans?

Hans Haug in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Hans Haug
Arrival Date: 17 Jun 1902
Birth Date: abt 1870
Age: 32
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Port of Departure: Christiansand, Norway
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Oscar II
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AntonH
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Posted - 30/04/2015 :  02:52:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Searching for your guy, I came across your earlier post in DIS. I am posting the link as the information there coulld be of some help to us here in the US. I was especially interested in your comment about Hans Haug returning to Norway, the confirmation of one of Anders children with the corss and your guess that perhaps he had died some where between 1902 and 1915.

http://www.disnorge.no/slektsforum/viewtopic.php?t=132109
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AntonH
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Posted - 30/04/2015 :  03:01:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Searching this site "All New York, New York, Death Index, 1862-1948" on Ancestry.com, using Anders born 1866 plus/minus 2, died 1912 plus/minus 10 years, turns up 434 names. However none of those with a last name beginning with L looked very promising. And only one of the Petersens or Petersons looked promising. This one.

Andrew Pettersen in the New York, New York, Death Index, 1862-1948
Name: Andrew Pettersen
Birth Year: abt 1865
Age: 45
Death Date: 8 Sep 1910
Death Place: Kings, New York, USA
Certificate Number: 18322
Purchase Certificate

The 1910 Census seems to have taken place in Brooklyn about April of 1910, so it may be possible to find him in that census if he were still alive.

Edited by - AntonH on 30/04/2015 03:04:24
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bodiliv
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Posted - 30/04/2015 :  14:19:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you for helping me! It could well be this man. It is a pitty that the birthdate never is comlete, if so we could easely have nailed the right man, if he was borne Apr. 19 1866. I still think he had an early death, because: His wife, Anna Karoline died in february 1906, she was not a widow in the .death report then. When his daughter Ragnhild Amalie died in 1911 (on her fathers 45. bithday!) only the fathers name was noted in the Church book. When his next daughter, Jenny Pauline Adelheid died Apr. 11 1915, there was no relatives to be found! (She still had two brothers alive, but all the children was foster-children in different homes from Des. 5 1905, 3 mnd. before their mother died, When the 3.sibling died, Hans William, April 25. 1921 the only relative was his youngest brother Rudolf Edvin. No mention of the father after Ragnhilds passing in 1911.
Next question: Is it possible to find lists of passangers that returned to Norway from the US? If Anders Ljungqvist returned to Norway after 1910 (Census) it is difficult to find him.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 30/04/2015 :  14:34:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Passenger lists are filed, if required, in the country in which a person lands, not with the country one leaves. The "police" lists in Norway are not truly passenger lists (a list of people who are onboard a specific ship)but function that way, at least for genealogists Perhaps if he did go back to Norway he might be found in outmigrating England lists since he is likely to have gone back through England or Great Britain.

Did any siblings, aunts, uncles and the like (other than the brother-in-law) come to America? Did his parents have dødfallsprotokol after 1902?

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AntonH
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Posted - 30/04/2015 :  16:49:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The birth year is a little off and Anders Ljungqvist is really not that rare of a name in Sweden but here is a travel record. He lists he age as 33 which is where the birth year comes from, he is also listed as travelling without wife or family.

Anders Ljungqvist in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Anders Ljungqvist
Gender: Male
Age: 33
Birth Date: abt 1880
Departure Date: 24 Apr 1913
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: Cedric
Search Ship Database: Search for the Cedric in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Shipping line: White Star Line
Official Number: 115354
Master: J Carter
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AntonH
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Posted - 30/04/2015 :  17:14:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The Cedric arrived in New York on May 4, 1913. I only found two names on a very long list that seemed to be of interest. However the original manifest that is shown with these names does not correspond to the names so I cannot use the original manifest to obtain more information on these people.

Name: Anders David Sgunkist
Arrival Date: 4 May 1913
Birth Date: abt 1880
Birth Location: Sweden
Birth Location Other: molala
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Cedric

The second person with a name close to Anders is

Name: Andres
Arrival Date: 4 May 1913
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Cedric

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bodiliv
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Posted - 30/04/2015 :  21:29:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have seen Anders Ljungquist born about 1880 earlier. I think 14 years is too much of a difference from 1866, and there was somthing els too, that I don't remember right now that made me erase him from my list. And thats the problem with nuber two, too, he's too young.
There were no other family members that went to Amerika, other then Hans Haug.
I will try the outmigration list to England.
Thank you again for helping me! This guy is quite a nut to crack!
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AntonH
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Posted - 30/04/2015 :  22:12:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a long shot on a man in nearby New Jersey. He is listed as widowed Occupation is listed as Carpenter, Railroad.

Andrew P Linquist in the 1910 United States Federal Census
ame: Andrew P Linquist
[Andrew P Languest]
[Andrew P Linquest]
Age in 1910: 42
Birth Year: abt 1868
Birthplace: Sweden
[Scotland]
Home in 1910: Union City Ward 3, Hudson, New Jersey
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1900
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Marital Status: Widowed
Father's Birthplace: Sweden
Mother's Birthplace: Sweden
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Josephine Woolston 40
John R Mortin 39
John J Ague 31
[30]
Andrew P Linquist 42
Lula Frankenfield 23

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AntonH
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Posted - 30/04/2015 :  22:20:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe the same man as above. Occupation again lsited as Carpenter, Railraod. Again listed as widowed.

Andrew P Lenquist in the 1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Andrew P Lenquist
[Andrew P Linquist]
[Andrew P Lanquist]
Age: 59
Birth Year: abt 1861
Birthplace: Sweden
[S??]
Home in 1920: Weehawken Ward 3, Hudson, New Jersey
Street: 2nd St
House Number: 77
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1894
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Marital Status: Widowed
[Widow]
Father's Birthplace: Sweden
Mother's Birthplace: Sweden
Native Tongue: Swedish
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Carpenter
Industry: Railroad
Employment Field: Wage or Salary
Naturalization Status: Papers Submitted
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
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bodiliv
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Posted - 02/05/2015 :  00:01:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I can se why you have picked those two, with the P for Petersen. But my Anders immigrated Sept. 16.1902.
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AntonH
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Posted - 02/05/2015 :  00:18:15  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
They are not two, but probably the same man. I am assuming that the arrival dates and birth years are not completely correct. So far I have not found him in either the 1900 or 1930 US Census.

Edited by - AntonH on 02/05/2015 00:21:30
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bodiliv
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Posted - 02/05/2015 :  00:36:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think the most promising so far is :
Andrew Pettersen in the New York, New York, Death Index, 1862-1948
Name: Andrew Pettersen
Birth Year: abt 1865
Age: 45
Death Date: 8 Sep 1910
Death Place: Kings, New York, USA
Certificate Number: 18322
Purchase Certificate

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AntonH
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Posted - 02/05/2015 :  01:47:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This could be him in the 1905 New York Census.Living in a place called Olsen Hotel, probably owned by Victor Olsen, also from Sweden.

Andrew Petersen in the New York, State Census, 1905
Name: Andrew Petersen
Birth Year: abt 1865
Birth Place: Sweden
Age: 40
Gender: Male
Race: White
Residence Year: 1905
Residence: Brooklyn, Kings, New York, USA
Relationship to Head: Boarder
Assembly District: 07
Election District: 36
Household Members:
Name Age
Victor Olsen 39
Elizabeth Anderson 44
Walter Stewart 38
Gus Anderson 37
Andrew Petersen 40
Charles Dorsch 33
Julius Mann 38

I found Victor Olsen in the 1910 Census, he is married with one young child but no sign of any Andrew Petersen.

Edited by - AntonH on 02/05/2015 03:09:29
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