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jkmarler
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Posted - 06/05/2015 : 01:26:49
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Here is a Lars Larsen b 1872 Kristiania in the 1885 census: http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01053257106364
and another: http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01053257048648
This Lars Larsen put to sea #6260: Kildeinformasjon: Oslo fylke, Oslo mønstringskontor, Yngre ruller, Annotasjonsruller, Annotasjonsrulle 3 (SAO/A-10569g/F/Fc/Fca/L0003), 1887-1902, oppb: Statsarkivet i Oslo.
Merknader: Annotasjonsrulle, patent nr. 5198-7595.
Permanent sidelenke: http://arkivverket.no/URN:db_read/db/42069/221/
A Lauritz Larsen b 1872 Kristiania (father is dead so his name is not known with certainty): http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01053257053405
Possibly this Lauritz's baptism, #113: Source information: Oslo county, Trefoldighet, Parish register (official) nr. I 3 (1870-1876), Birth and baptism records 1872, page 83. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=693&idx_id=693&uid=ny&idx_side=-84
This Lauritz is eliminated due to death: http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/kb/gr/person/pg00000001795157
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Edited by - jkmarler on 08/05/2015 01:28:55 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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JaneC
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 06/05/2015 : 02:53:43
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So far in the posted records for Louis Martin Lawson's children (birth, marriage, no deaths yet) there are no more surprises re. his name. The transcriptions do not mention his age - but usually transcriptions are condensed. The original birth records might have more clues, I don't know. The death records for the children, or their obituaries, might refer to their father in some other form than Louis or Lewis - to give a clue to his original Norwegian name. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/05/2015 : 03:09:00
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Nice find on the 1901 Census Jane, I do think that it is the Louis Larsen we are tracking.
Also Jackie, I find the second Lars Larsen very interesting. with the Marthin Larsen name for the father. Here is likely the baptisim record for him. Note the fathers name is Martin in the Ancestry.com record.
Lars Larsen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Lars Larsen Gender: Male Birth Date: 12 mai 1872 (12 May 1872) Baptism Date: 19 mai 1872 (19 May 1872) Baptism Place: Oslo, Oslo, Norway Father: Martin Larsen Mother: Sofie Marie Johannesen FHL Film Number: 1282977
However, it would appear that he is still living in Norway in the 1885 Census.
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01053257048648 |
Edited by - AntonH on 06/05/2015 03:56:45 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/05/2015 : 03:32:39
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quote: Originally posted by jwiborg
It would be of interest to know why you think his name was Lorietza or Lauritz. Any written sources for that? Or family folklore?
Good question.
Since the Ancestry.com public family tree gives a precise date of birth for Louis Lawson, one wonders where that came from. Must be a source, even though not posted. Dave, if you suhscribe to Ancestry.com, you can write to the tree owner.
Had a computer glitch. If memory serves, found Marthin Larsen's younger son was baptized at Trefoldighet (sp?). |
Edited by - JaneC on 06/05/2015 04:20:40 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 06/05/2015 : 04:04:30
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Interesting in that the second son was baptised in Trefoldighet as mentioned by Jane. Here the last name of the mother is Svendsen, which makes a lot of sense for me, since I had no luck finding the marriage of Martin Larsen and a Sofie Marie Johansen but I did find the marriage of Martin Larsen and Sofie Marie Svendsen.
Here is the record for the second son.
Johannes Sigurd Larsen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Johannes Sigurd Larsen Gender: Male Birth Date: 11 mai 1874 (11 May 1874) Baptism Date: 14 jun 1874 Baptism Place: Trefoldighet Menighet, Oslo, Akershus, Norway Father: Martin Larsen Mother: Sofie Marie Svendsen FHL Film Number: 255761 Reference ID: 2:FGC0FR
See also number 170
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=693&idx_id=693&uid=ny&idx_side=-211
And probably the marriage of the couple.
Martin Larsen in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 Name: Martin Larsen Gender: Male Age: 24 Birth Date: 1847 Marriage Date: 3 jul 1871 Marriage Place: Trefoldighet Menighet, Oslo, Akershus, Norway Father: Lars Ericksen Spouse: Sofie Marie Svendsen FHL Film Number: 255761 Reference ID: 2:QMHW56
See also number 67
http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=696&idx_id=696&uid=ny&idx_side=-259 |
Edited by - AntonH on 06/05/2015 04:14:33 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/05/2015 : 04:41:10
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quote: Originally posted by lyndal40
Nice find on the 1901 Census Jane, I do think that it is the Louis Larsen we are tracking.
Also Jackie, I find the second Lars Larsen very interesting. with the Marthin Larsen name for the father. Here is likely the baptisim record for him. Note the fathers name is Martin in the Ancestry.com record.
Lars Larsen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Lars Larsen Gender: Male Birth Date: 12 mai 1872 (12 May 1872) Baptism Date: 19 mai 1872 (19 May 1872) Baptism Place: Oslo, Oslo, Norway Father: Martin Larsen Mother: Sofie Marie Johannesen FHL Film Number: 1282977
However, it would appear that he is still living in Norway in the 1885 Census.
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01053257048648
This is not yet a problem since we only know for certain that he was in England by 1897 to marry. What he's been up to in the intervening years is not known. |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 06/05/2015 : 05:13:16
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Another two years down for candidate Lars Larsen s/o Martin Larsen, his confirmation #38. It also notes his baptismal place as Trefoldighet (Trinity): Source information: Oslo county, Uranienborg, Parish register (official) nr. 2 (1880-1896), Confirmation records 1887, page 62. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5441&idx_id=5441&uid=ny&idx_side=-67 |
Edited by - jkmarler on 06/05/2015 05:16:10 |
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AntonH
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davehunter
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Posted - 06/05/2015 : 17:38:06
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Hi all, Thank you so much for all your comments so far. He Did live in Orwell Street, and his grandchildren, lived very close by. Violet, Jessie, Flo, Margaret, Edith ( my mum) Ronnie, Alec. His daughter married Alexander Mckenzie Anderson in Grimsby. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 06/05/2015 : 18:42:26
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How about this guy? #27 Laurits Valdemar Larsen Born: 12 Nov 1872 Christening: 23 Feb 1873, Domkirken, Oslo, Norway Parents: Laurits Larsen & Berthe Johnsen Illegitimate child Source: Oslo county, Oslo Domkirke / Vår Frelsers menighet, Parish register (official) nr. 17 (1869-1878), Birth and baptism records 1873, page 261.
Seems like it could be this guy in census-1875 and census-1885.
Sorry. Still in Oslo in census-1910. |
Edited by - jwiborg on 06/05/2015 20:42:17 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 06/05/2015 : 20:20:12
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A good candidate. Here is his confirmation #6: Source information: Oslo county, Jacob, Parish register (official) nr. 4 (1880-1894), Confirmation records 1888, page 63. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5411&idx_id=5411&uid=ny&idx_side=-67 Off the board.
Here is another Laurits Bernard Larsen son of Laurits Bernard Larsen "murersvend" mason assistant or journeyman: Source information: Oslo county, Jacob, Parish register (official) nr. 4 (1880-1894), Confirmation records 1888, page 60. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5411&idx_id=5411&uid=ny&idx_side=-64
Of course, birthdate doesn't match the database and middle name an issue too.
An extreme long shot & not too likely Lars Martinius Larsen b. 29 April 1874 Christiania son of Jens Larsen #18: Source information: Oslo county, Jacob, Parish register (official) nr. 4 (1880-1894), Confirmation records 1888, page 64. Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=5411&idx_id=5411&uid=ny&idx_side=-68
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vivi
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jkmarler
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Posted - 07/05/2015 : 00:40:12
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This is probably the brother of Lars Larsen whose father dies in 1906. He is married and so could be father of two: http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01100021010965
How reliable are the dødfallsprotokol? In my great great grandparents's case, my great grandfather was still living at home when his mother died but he is not mentioned in the record. When the great great grandfather dies in 1898, his is accounted for, as living in U.S. |
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