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cindywoodslee
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 Posted - 27/05/2015 : 04:02:58
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You are correct. Note keeping and copies of documents are the best way for me to map out Anders life. The verbal information I've received from family and friends hasn't been very accurate and has not served me well.quote:
Originally posted by Hopkins
Naturalization papers in the US after 1906 are filed with the federal government. That would be where to start making steps to get copies. Looking at index would never make me think someone had actually seen the naturalization papers.
I happen to be a source citation fanatic. I always try to encourage others to keep at least basic notes and to learn the value of same.
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cindywoodslee
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Posted - 27/05/2015 : 04:07:33
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If the information Anders daughter-in-law gave me is correct, he married elizabeth southworth in 1923.quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler
Here is a possible marriage, this one's parents are named in the record:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:247Z-PH7
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 27/05/2015 : 04:57:10
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quote:
Originally posted by cindywoodslee
If the information Anders daughter-in-law gave me is correct, he married elizabeth southworth in 1923.quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler
Here is a possible marriage, this one's parents are named in the record:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:247Z-PH7
It's an either-or situation, Cindy. More than one Anders Salvesen is mentioned (I think there were five) because not enough starter information was available. We need USA info so the above was offered as a candidate on the US side, and either your Anders is this one, or that one, or.... Clearly the Anders who marries Inga in Manhattan 1925 is not your Anders since you've now confirmed that your Anders is the one married to Elizabeth and living in Braintree, MA.
Glad we found your family. Search GENI to find a public family tree (creator might be a cousin).
So your Anders has father Salve Andersen and mother Anne Jonsdatter. The farm names at the end of a person's name can change during the person's life.
As you saw, according to the 1910 census, Anders and Anders's siblings are
Anders born 24 June 1892
Jon born 19 Sep 1896
Bergtor born 02 Dec 1898
Jorgen born 21 March 1901
Kristine born 03 Sep 1903
Siri born 22 Feb 1906
Anna born 06 June 1908
Olav born 08 Sep 1910
It's possible more children were born after 1910.
In both the 1900 and 1910 census, as posted, the family lives at Tungenes, Hornnes in Evje, Aust-Agder. |
Edited by - JaneC on 27/05/2015 17:46:57 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 27/05/2015 : 05:41:14
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Here is the marriage information on your Anders Salveson,
Elizabeth J Southworth in the Massachusetts, Marriage Index, 1901-1955 and 1966-1970
Name: Elizabeth J Southworth
Marriage Year: 1923
Marriage Place: Lynn, Massachusetts, USA
Volume Number: 33
Page Number: 119
Index Volume Number: 94
Reference Number: F63.M36 v.94
They index is set up by name, so you must search for the groom and put them together. Here is the record for Andrew S. Lee.
Andrew S Lee in the Massachusetts, Marriage Index, 1901-1955 and 1966-1970
Name: Andrew S Lee
Marriage Year: 1923
Marriage Place: Lynn, Massachusetts, USA
Volume Number: 33
Page Number: 119
Index Volume Number: 91
Reference Number: F63.M36 v.91 |
Edited by - AntonH on 27/05/2015 05:42:24 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 27/05/2015 : 05:51:17
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This was posted earlier, but I wanted to point out that on the original document he lists his wife as Elizabeth Lee, He lists her and his address as 45 Arthur Street , East Brain Tree, MA.
Andrew Salveson Lee in the U.S., World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
Name: Andrew Salveson Lee
Birth Date: 24 Jun 1892
Birth Place: Kristiansand, Norway
Residence: Norfolk, Massachusetts, USA
Race: White
Also in the Brain Tree Directory he is listed as
Lee, Andrew S. (Eilzabeth J.) carp. h 76 Howard E. B.
Massachusetts City Directories
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Edited by - AntonH on 27/05/2015 05:55:52 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 27/05/2015 : 08:30:15
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Salve Andersen, Birkeland and Anne Jonsdatter, Stenkirken øvre Ramse were married June 13 1891, see #2.
The birth record for Salve Andersen is #11, he was born April 1 1865.
His parents were Anders Bertosen and Siri Gundersdatter, Birkeland.
The birth record for Anne Jonsdatter is #12, she was born Oct 30 1869.
Her parents were Jon Salvesen, and Kristi Olsdatter, ø. Ramse.
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Edited by - eibache on 27/05/2015 15:38:12 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 27/05/2015 : 08:49:08
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Anders Bertosen, Flaad and Siri Gundersdatter, Birkeland were married Febr 15 1847, see #H5.
Anders Bertosen was 32 years old and his father was Berto Asgoutsen.
Siri Gundersdatter was 18 years old and her father was Gunder Jørgensen.
Anders and Siri with their children in 1865.
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Edited by - eibache on 28/05/2015 10:00:11 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 27/05/2015 : 09:15:50
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John Salvesen, ø. Ramse and Christi Olsdatter, ø. Ramse were married March 18 1860, see #2.
Jon Salvesen was 26 years old and Christi Olsdatter was 33 years old.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 27/05/2015 : 09:24:12
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Jon Salvesen was born Oct 12 1829, see #4.
His parents were Salve Olsen and Siri Jonsdatter, ø. Ramse.
John Salvesen, with wife and children, his brother and widowed mother in 1865.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 27/05/2015 : 09:37:52
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Salve Olsen and Sigri Jonsdatter were married Oct 30 1825, see right page #2.
Salve was from ø. Ramse and was 29 years old.
Sigri was 25 years old.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 27/05/2015 : 16:13:09
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Bertov Aschoutsen, Flaad and Ane Andersdatter, Evie were married Dec 27 1811, see last "Copulerede" on left page.
They had at least the children
Asgout, b. 1812
Knud
Kjersti, b. May 23 1824
Gunder, b. Dec 18 1826
Anders, b 1829 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 27/05/2015 : 21:34:22
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Ascout Børthofsen, Ryg and Guro Knudsdatter, Flaad were married July 6 1787, see 5th record on left page.
Bertho Ascoutsen, his widowed mother and his siblings in 1801.
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cindywoodslee
Starting member
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Posted - 28/05/2015 : 00:06:54
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JaneC, Thank you for all you have done and found. I am learning alot.quote:
Originally posted by JaneC
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Originally posted by cindywoodslee
If the information Anders daughter-in-law gave me is correct, he married elizabeth southworth in 1923.quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler
Here is a possible marriage, this one's parents are named in the record:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:247Z-PH7
It's an either-or situation, Cindy. More than one Anders Salvesen is mentioned (I think there were five) because not enough starter information was available. We need USA info so the above was offered as a candidate on the US side, and either your Anders is this one, or that one, or.... Clearly the Anders who marries Inga in Manhattan 1925 is not your Anders since you've now confirmed that your Anders is the one married to Elizabeth and living in Braintree, MA.
Glad we found your family. Search GENI to find a public family tree (creator might be a cousin).
So your Anders has father Salve Andersen and mother Anne Jonsdatter. The farm names at the end of a person's name can change during the person's life.
As you saw, according to the 1910 census, Anders and Anders's siblings are
Anders born 24 June 1892
Jon born 19 Sep 1896
Bergtor born 02 Dec 1898
Jorgen born 21 March 1901
Kristine born 03 Sep 1903
Siri born 22 Feb 1906
Anna born 06 June 1908
Olav born 08 Sep 1910
It's possible more children were born after 1910.
In both the 1900 and 1910 census, as posted, the family lives at Tungenes, Hornnes in Evje, Aust-Agder.
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cindywoodslee
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Looking for Anders Salveson dob 6-24-1892
