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Ron Iverson
Medium member

USA
161 Posts

Posted - 23/06/2015 :  05:56:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
According to a history compiled for my family, this person was born in Norway about 1848 and emigrated with her family from Christiania to the USA at age 11.

Wonder whether she appears on any passenger list. Digitalarkivet emigrantar records don't go back that early.

I believe I have found her in the 1870 census in Janesville, Wisconsin. In 1872 in Wisconsin she married Hans Christian Tweedt, my great-grandfather's brother.

Ronald A. Iverson

Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
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Posted - 23/06/2015 :  16:05:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The 1900 US federal census lists this woman with vastly different year of birth and year of emigration.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 23/06/2015 :  16:37:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably the record the poster refers to from the 1870 US Census.

Susan Nelson
in the 1870 United States Federal Census
Name: Susan Nelson
Age in 1870: 22
Birth Year: abt 1848
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1870: Janesville Ward 3, Rock, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Female
Post Office: Janesville
Value of real estate: View image
Household Members:
Name Age
A P Richard 43
Agusta E Richard 28
Chartollert Richard 4
Lyman B Richard 2
Abbie Dearborn 50
Susan Nelson 22

A family tree states that this Susan Nelson married Hans C. J. Tweedt in 1872 in Waupaca, Wisconsin.

Edited by - AntonH on 23/06/2015 16:41:07
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
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Posted - 23/06/2015 :  16:59:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably the family in the 1880 US Census.

Susan Tweed
in the 1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Susan Tweed
Age: 28
Birth Year: abt 1852
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Nez Perce, Idaho
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Hanson Tweed
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Keeping House
Household Members:
Name Age
Hanson Tweed 34
Susan Tweed 28
Carl Tweed 7
Emma Tweed 5
Lewis Tweed 1
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 23/06/2015 :  17:06:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Interesting discussion of the family on this site.

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Christiansen-420

And here

https://familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=33737&disp=A+Norwegian+and+American+family+-+Myks

Edited by - AntonH on 23/06/2015 17:43:11
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 23/06/2015 :  17:37:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At a different family tree the owner lists this record as being the arrival of Susan Nelson

Susanne Niledatter
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Susanne Niledatter
Gender: Female
Age: 18
Birth Year: abt 1848
Date of Arrival: Jun 1866
Vessel: Dei Gratia
Search Ship Database: Search for the Dei Gratia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Canada

The ship

http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_year.asp?ye=1866

Edited by - AntonH on 23/06/2015 17:52:25
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 23/06/2015 :  18:00:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I suppose it is possible that Susan Nelson was from Hordaland and knew the family of Hans Tweedt before they were married. However there is no Susan or variant of that name in the NHDC 1865 Norwegian Census for Hordaland. There are two candidates from Manger, which is close to Myksvoll the area where the family of Hans is supposdely from.

A Søgni Nilsdatter born 1852
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=1261&kenr=003&bnr=0056&lnr=000

A Steffine K Nilsdatter born 1847
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1865&knr=1261&kenr=012&bnr=0092&lnr=000
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Ron Iverson
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USA
161 Posts

Posted - 23/06/2015 :  18:24:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is something intriguing about this woman and her husband...may be of interest to any posters with feminist views. After bearing 15 CHILDREN, Susan was divorced by husband Hans in the early 1900s, according to 1910 census entries. She seems to disappear from records until her death notices in 1925, in Washington state. Hans retires, moves to Hawaii, marries a woman 50 years younger than himself, lives into his late 80s.
A privately-published history of my family extolls the successes of Hans Tweedt and descendants but makes no mention of the divorce etc. No offense intended to anyone living but there may be an interesting story hidden here.

Ronald A. Iverson
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jkmarler
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USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 23/06/2015 :  21:00:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
One of Anton's links is to a story in which Susan's parents are named John & Amelia Nelson in Waupaca county, Wisconsin. If this is true, in Norway Susan's name would more than likely be a Jonsdatter rather than a Nelson.

What name is Susan found under in the Washington state death index since she died there in 1925? Sometimes parents are named in the online transcriptions.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 24/06/2015 :  00:22:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Can not find Susan in Washington State Death Index.

Here is a John and Seina Nelson living in Waupaca County Wisconsin in 1880. Amelia is a daughter.

Seina Nelson
in the 1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Seina Nelson
Age: 37
Birth Year: abt 1843
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Iola, Waupaca, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: John Nelson
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Keeping House
Household Members:
Name Age
John Nelson 47
Seina Nelson 37
Nels Nelson 11
John Nelson 9
Amelia Nelson 7
Gena Nelson 5
Edwin Nelson 3
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AntonH
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USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 24/06/2015 :  00:28:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the closest I found for a death certificate for a person dying in 1925 in Washington State.

Susan Tiviedt
in the Washington, Select Death Certificates, 1907-1960
Name: Susan Tiviedt
Gender: Female
Age: 66
Estimated birth year: abt 1859
Death Date: 27 Feb 1925
Death Place: Medical Lake, Spokane, Washington
Burial Date: 28 Feb 1925
Burial Place: Spokane, Wash.
FHL Film Number: 2022255
Reference ID: 65
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 24/06/2015 :  01:54:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Bummer, no parents named on the transcription:
http://www.digitalarchives.wa.gov/Record/View/83B8A8B86D08375A1AFF72F39C19425F
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AntonH
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USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 24/06/2015 :  02:01:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks like the reason she disappeared from view is that she was in an inmate in a hospital.

Susan Tweedt
in the 1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Susan Tweedt
Age: 60
Birth Year: abt 1860
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1920: Espanola, Spokane, Washington
Street: Eastern State Hospital
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1870
Relation to Head of House: Inmate
Marital Status: Married
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: Norwegian
Able to Speak English: Yes
Naturalization Status: Naturalized
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes

And she was there in 1910 as well

Mrs Susan Twreide
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Mrs
[Mrs Susan Twreide]
[Mrs Susan Mrs Tweede]
Age in 1910: 48
Birth Year: abt 1862
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Espanola, Spokane, Washington
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1870
Relation to Head of House: Inmate
Marital Status: Married
[Widowed]
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Sweden

Edited by - AntonH on 24/06/2015 02:09:50
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Ron Iverson
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USA
161 Posts

Posted - 24/06/2015 :  03:54:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
jk marler and lyndal40 I believe you have found her. Eastern State is a mental hospital...explains why she was not living in old age with one of her many children, and why mention of her stops in our published family history, which tends to gloss over all negatives.

As always I can only shake my head in wonder at the detective skills of you NHForum veterans.

Ronald A. Iverson
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jkmarler
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USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 24/06/2015 :  05:29:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's a wikipedia about the Eastern State Hospital:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eastern_State_Hospital_%28Washington%29
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vivi
Senior member

Norway
371 Posts

Posted - 24/06/2015 :  13:53:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

Is it possible to verify the birth-year of Susan?
Difficult to look for a girl with a norwegian variation of the name Susan born somewhere between 1848 and 1862 to unknown parents.
She might have used Nelson because she was the daughter of Nils/Nels/Niels or she might have used her father's surname - many did so in US.

Vivi

Edited by - vivi on 24/06/2015 13:54:01
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