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AUTime
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 Posted - 13/07/2015 : 19:02:20
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http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070914660026.jpg
I am looking for a Kristien Isaacsen Garthe whom I believe was born in 1807 and this record comes as close as I can to find it.
I hope someone can translate this record for me to see if this could be him.
The date is hard to read also but I only see one date. Is it for the Birth or the Baptism/Confirmation?
Thanks for looking
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jkmarler
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Posted - 13/07/2015 : 19:21:44
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Assuming the #27 entry at the top of the right hand page is the one you mean.
The only date I see is for the mother's reintroduction to the congregation. (may be 19 April) Otherwise only the year for each unless the baptism happened the same day as reintroduction.
The father is Isak Isakson Garthes. The best I can do with the godparents are: Cristen Toreson Garth, Ole Larson Hegset, Tore Anderson Togge, Marit Isacksdatter Horenstad, Marit Andersdatter Aasprong from _____ |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 13/07/2015 : 20:54:46
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"Palmesĝndag" Palm Sunday (March 22) at Ranes in Surnadal
Ranes was a sub parish in Surnadal parish
Isac Isacsen Garthes son Christen (Isacsen)
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/07/2015 : 23:27:06
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This is the record from the Ancestry.com data base. The data matches the one given by Kċre.
Christen Isaksen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Christen Isaksen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 22 mar 1807
Baptism Place: , Surnadal, More Og Romsdal, Norway
Father: Isak Isaksen
FHL Film Number: 124993 |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 13/07/2015 : 23:39:47
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I assume it was this Christen Isachsen Garthe who married Gjertrud Stenersdatter Andsnĉs/Andsnes.
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AUTime
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Posted - 14/07/2015 : 00:08:17
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The data I have is that Christen Isachsen Garthe married Gertrude Tronsdatter Stenberg.
Thank you all for the translation.
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Kċarto
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Posted - 14/07/2015 : 00:28:29
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You are right, but Christen Isachsen Garthe was a widower when he married Gjertud Trondsdatter Stenberg in Surnadal July 9. 1857.
His first wife was Gjertrud Stenersdatter Andsnĉs, they were married April 20. 1842 in Stangvik in Surnadal.
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AntonH
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Kċarto
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Posted - 14/07/2015 : 10:20:43
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All three children in the 1865 census; Isak, Stener and Maret, were from his first marriage with Gjertrud Stenersdattter Andsnĉs.
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AUTime
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Posted - 14/07/2015 : 13:50:35
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Thank you very much for the information.
I now have a new individual to research.
Any other information on Gjertrud Stenersdattter Andsnĉs would be great.
Thanks for the Kċre and lyndal40 for the lead!! |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 14/07/2015 : 14:28:09
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Gjertrud was born Sept. 6. on Andsnes and bapt, Sept 12. 1819.
Parents: Stener Arentsen and Ildrie Halvardsdatter.
Dif. to read, left page line 21 from top, link
"Dĝbt" Bapt. 12 Sept. Stener Arentsen Ansnes and wife Ildrie Halvardsdatters B (abbr. for Barn-Child) born Sept. 6. Giertrue
Stener and Ildrie married in Stangvik Feb. 2. 1815, also dif. to read and understand.
Right page line 5. from bottom.
Marriage 2. febr. Stener Arents Andnĉs and Ildrie Halvardsdatter Bruset link
Good Luck
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Edited by - Kċarto on 14/07/2015 15:48:42 |
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JaneC
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Posted - 14/07/2015 : 17:11:53
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quote:
Originally posted by AUTime
The data I have is that Christen Isachsen Garthe married Gertrude Tronsdatter Stenberg.
Not to be a muckraker, but may I suggest another look at this post and the ensuing information on Gjertrude Stenersdatter? On the branch of your tree being researched here, apparently some child of Christian Isaacsen appears. Yet that child's birth record had not been checked, as shown by you not knowing his/her mother. The request to research Gertrude Stenersdatter suggests you now find her to be the correct mother for whatever child relates to you.
You "have" Gertrude Tronsdatter, but didn't state your source. If not from her child's birth record, how came you to note her as the child's mother? That seems to follow from an undocumented assumption. I guess I'm saying the initial, opening query probably stems from a family tree you've seen - a tree that is now shown to be inaccurate. How solid is the rest of the research involved?
If this were my project, I would look again at the individuals who come after Christian Isaacsen, his child, grandchild, great-grandchild or whomever. I'd look again for the most recent individual for whom the data is solid. Could be your parent - the forum doesn't know. In the rush to harvest names that carry a tree further back in time, many less experienced people will zero in on the earliest individual in someone else's tree and seek help to travel further back, without realizing that this could result in researching people who aren't truly related.
Consider the analogy of a road trip. The directions say "Take a right on highway 68 and drive 200 miles." If one accidentally takes a left, then the further he/she drives, the more off track he/she becomes - even if the drive along highway 68 is well marked.
Obviously I don't know whether additional errors have occured! There's no way to know, as the names you've submitted appear out of context of documentation/sources and out of context of the offspring of interest. Maybe this caution would change nothing. But I do suggest you consider whether the long, long path from you back to the eighteenth century is truly secure.
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AntonH
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Kċarto
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Posted - 14/07/2015 : 19:55:34
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Hmmmmmm.
Gjertrud Trondsdatter and Christen Isachsen Garthe married July 9. 1857 and she was not the mother of Christens children, it was Gjertrud Stenersdatter Andsnes.
Isak Kristensen Garthe (various spellings) in the 1865 census b. 1842, he was born August 28. 1842 to Christen Isachsen Garthe and Gjertrud Stenersdatter, see#110
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Kċarto
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Posted - 14/07/2015 : 20:11:31
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What was the name of your ancestor that em. to America and do you know when the em. took place?
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Edited by - Kċarto on 14/07/2015 20:28:36 |
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Question on Birth/Babtism record
