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csavard24
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Posted - 23/07/2015 :  19:56:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by jkmarler

Okay, so when did Rasmus Hansen and Rasmus Olsen die?



In my book, it says Rasmus died in 1860. I assume it was in Tune.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/07/2015 :  20:16:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a death of a husmand Rasmus Hansen age 50 dying on Bentemyr in 1840 would be #11:

Source information: Østfold county, Tune, Parish register (official) nr. 8 (1837-1841), Death and burial records 1840, page 271.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7500&idx_id=7500&uid=ny&idx_side=-200

This is no death of any Rasmus in Tune in 1860.

Edited by - jkmarler on 23/07/2015 20:27:15
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Kåarto
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Posted - 23/07/2015 :  20:29:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Yes, This my ancestor Hans Rasmussen. His son, Robert A., is my G-G-grand-father (Robert Anton Hansen). :-)
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Like his brother Thorvald he was a "Matros" Seaman.
His oldest brother Andreas was "Styrmand" Mate.

Kåre
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csavard24
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Posted - 23/07/2015 :  20:34:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Here is a death of a husmand Rasmus Hansen age 50 dying on Bentemyr in 1840 would be #11:

Source information: Østfold county, Tune, Parish register (official) nr. 8 (1837-1841), Death and burial records 1840, page 271.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7500&idx_id=7500&uid=ny&idx_side=-200

This is no death of any Rasmus in Tune in 1860.



If he died in Bentemyr, that would show up in Tunes records, right?
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csavard24
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Posted - 23/07/2015 :  21:06:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hans Rasmussen was baptised on Nov 1st 1834:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7499&idx_id=7499&idx_listetype=kf&idx_kjonn=m&uid=ny&idx_side=-9

His father was Rasmus Hansen and mother Anne Tolfsdatter (I can't understand what else is written).
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/07/2015 :  21:09:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by csavard24

Hans Rasmussen was baptised on Nov 1st 1834:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7499&idx_id=7499&idx_listetype=kf&idx_kjonn=m&uid=ny&idx_side=-9

His father was Rasmus Hansen and mother Anne Tolfsdatter (I can't understand what else is written).



What you have there is Hans Rasmussen's confirmation record. Confirmations occur around the mid-teens years. His baptismal record has already been posted.
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csavard24
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Posted - 23/07/2015 :  21:16:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

quote:
Originally posted by csavard24

Hans Rasmussen was baptised on Nov 1st 1834:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7499&idx_id=7499&idx_listetype=kf&idx_kjonn=m&uid=ny&idx_side=-9

His father was Rasmus Hansen and mother Anne Tolfsdatter (I can't understand what else is written).



What you have there is Hans Rasmussen's confirmation record. Confirmations occur around the mid-teens years. His baptismal record has already been posted.



Yes, but this confirms his father was Rasmus Hansen (and not Rasmus Olsen).
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/07/2015 :  21:16:40  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by csavard24

quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Here is a death of a husmand Rasmus Hansen age 50 dying on Bentemyr in 1840 would be #11:

Source information: Østfold county, Tune, Parish register (official) nr. 8 (1837-1841), Death and burial records 1840, page 271.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7500&idx_id=7500&uid=ny&idx_side=-200

This is no death of any Rasmus in Tune in 1860.



If he died in Bentemyr, that would show up in Tunes records, right?



Yes Bentemyr is a farm or a cotter's place in Tune parish and so Tune parish church would be where most pastoral acts for residents of Bentemyr would be held.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/07/2015 :  21:19:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by csavard24

quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

quote:
Originally posted by csavard24

Hans Rasmussen was baptised on Nov 1st 1834:

http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7499&idx_id=7499&idx_listetype=kf&idx_kjonn=m&uid=ny&idx_side=-9

His father was Rasmus Hansen and mother Anne Tolfsdatter (I can't understand what else is written).



What you have there is Hans Rasmussen's confirmation record. Confirmations occur around the mid-teens years. His baptismal record has already been posted.



Yes, but this confirms his father was Rasmus Hansen (and not Rasmus Olsen).



Yes, but, coincidences like the Rasmus Olsen / Rasmus Hansen thing bother me as a seasoned researcher. I'm hoping I will find some way to scratch the itch. One possible is that there is only one man, there could be other possibilities as well.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 23/07/2015 :  21:51:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There is no doubt we have your ancestor Hans Rasmussen born 1818 to Rasmus Hansen born 1795 to Hans Rasmussen.
We miss the wedding record from his marriage with Anne Tolfsdr/Tollefsdatter/Tollevsdatter from ca 1816 plus minus.

Kåre

Edited by - Kåarto on 23/07/2015 21:52:18
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/07/2015 :  22:06:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a Rasmus Olsen b Edsberg in 1795, right page, right column:
Source information: Østfold county, Eidsberg, Parish register (official) nr. I 5 (1786-1807), Birth and baptism records 1795, page 32.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7489&idx_id=7489&uid=ny&idx_side=-32

Confirmand 1 in 1811 left page, left column Rasmus Olsen Braae:
Source information: Østfold county, Eidsberg, Parish register (official) nr. I 6 (1807-1814), Confirmation records 1811-1812, page 123.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7490&idx_id=7490&uid=ny&idx_side=-45


Edited by - jkmarler on 23/07/2015 22:22:34
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/07/2015 :  22:18:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a Rasmus Hansen Bøhlen age 17 1/2 confirmed in Edsberg:
right page
Source information: Østfold county, Eidsberg, Parish register (official) nr. I 6 (1807-1814), Confirmation records 1809-1810, page 122.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7490&idx_id=7490&uid=ny&idx_side=-44
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csavard24
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Posted - 23/07/2015 :  22:28:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Here is a Rasmus Hansen Bøhlen age 17 1/2 confirmed in Edsberg:
right page
Source information: Østfold county, Eidsberg, Parish register (official) nr. I 6 (1807-1814), Confirmation records 1809-1810, page 122.
Permanent pagelink: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7490&idx_id=7490&uid=ny&idx_side=-44




So 2 different Rasmus did their confirmation, right?
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/07/2015 :  22:34:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes, but the records in Tune call the father Anne Tolfsdatter's child Hellene and her husband as Rasmus Olson Bøhlen. So another coincidence, they come from the same farm in Edsberg, it stretches credulity.
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csavard24
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Posted - 23/07/2015 :  22:36:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by jkmarler

Yes, but the records in Tune call the father Anne Tolfsdatter's child Hellene and her husband as Rasmus Olson Bøhlen. So another coincidence, they come from the same farm in Edsberg, it stretches credulity.



I agree the this coincidence is very weird...
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