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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/08/2015 :  15:51:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well, I think its true that we have assumed he was Norwegian but he didn't necessarily have to be.
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/08/2015 :  16:28:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you Vivi , your comments make me feel much more comfortable that Jørgine could have met a Hakon in Oslo before she left. Now which Hakon? The only Hakon found in New York in the 1900 time frame fits fairly well is the Hakon Emil Ericksen. Jackie has posted a link to the 1885 Census showing that a Hakon Emil Ericksen was living in Kristiania on that time. However Jørgine would have been only 10.

A brief summary of what I think we know about Hakon Emil Ericksen. Not a for sure id means that he is not using the middle name Emil.

Hakon Emil Ericksen

1864 Born Hakon Emil Carlsen, Akershus fits marriage Digitalarkivet

1865 Living in Kristiania with family using Eriksen Digitalarkivet

1875 Living in Akershus called Hakon Emil Eriksen Census Family Search

1885 Living in Kristiania Norwegian Census Hakon Emil Digitalarkivet

1887 Emigrant from Krisitiania (not a for sure id) Digitalarkivet

1895 Married to Hilma, his father is Carl Ericksen Family Search

1900 Traveling to NY in Feb, US Citizen lived in US 13 yrs Ancestry

1900 Living in Manhatten as a widower with son Hjalmar US Census

1903 Married to Anna Christiansen in Richmond NY Ancestry

1910 Living in Richmond NY with second wife Anna US Census

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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/08/2015 :  16:47:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Don't underestimate the old tyme method of meeting via correspondence. And Hakon can be spelled many ways: Haakon, Hakon, Hagen, Haagen, Håken, Håkon, etc.

What about the sister Nicoline who went to Canada when was that?

Edited by - jkmarler on 27/08/2015 17:10:24
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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/08/2015 :  18:33:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is a naturalization for a Hakon Emil Erickson in 1892 in New York. His contact person is a Frank Neuman or at least it looks like that. Haven't been able to look at the images at familysearch with any regularity....

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVT7-J7NL

And a death for a Hakon Erickson b in 1865 son of John Erickson and Christine Johnson:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WCF-168

Edited by - jkmarler on 27/08/2015 18:37:28
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vivi
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Posted - 27/08/2015 :  22:00:32  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi

Nicoline left june 1903 with two children and was going to New York. Her husband had left earlier. They continued to Canada after a while.

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000532669


Vivi
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/08/2015 :  22:11:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is Hakon Ericksen in 1899 living at 436 Pleasant Avenue, New York. Same address as was found for him for 1900 US Census.

Hakon Ericksen
in the U.S. City Directories, 1822-1989
Name: Hakon Ericksen
Residence Year: 1899
Street address: 436 Plfnaat
Residence Place: New York, New York, USA
Occupation: Polisher
Publication Title: New York, New York, City Directory, 1899
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AntonH
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Posted - 27/08/2015 :  22:16:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I notice that on his Naturalization Petition that he lists Polisher as his occupation. Same occupation given by the Hakon Ericksen living at 436 Pleasant Avenue, New York. Jackie you are right a Frank Neumann is listed in two places on the original document.

Hakon Emil Ericksen
in the New York, Petitions for Naturalization, 1794-1906
Name: Hakon Emil Ericksen
Record Date: 27 Oct 1892
Court: Superior Court of the City of New York (1-597)
Court Location: New York, New York, New York, USA

His initial Petition was filed in 1890.

Name: Hakon Emil Ericksen
Record Date: 19 Jul 1890
Court: Superior Court of the City of New York (1-597)
Court Location: New York, USA

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AntonH
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Posted - 28/08/2015 :  00:00:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Oddly enough Hakon Emil Ericksen and family father Carl and mother Kristine are living in Kristiania in the 1865 Norwegian Census.

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038027046603
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/08/2015 :  03:11:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is Hakon Ericksen travelling from New York to England. I would assume he then would go on to Norway next. He lists his occupation as metal polisher, similar to the occupations Hakon Emil Ericksen has listed in various US records. No son with him, you wonder who is taking care of Hjalmar.

Hakon Erickson
in the UK, Incoming Passenger Lists, 1878-1960
Name: Hakon Erickson
Birth Date: abt 1865
Age: 34
Port of Departure: New York, New York, United States
Arrival Date: Jul 1899
Port of Arrival: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Campania

Here he is heading back the other way, destination New York about six months later

Hakon Erikson
in the UK, Outward Passenger Lists, 1890-1960
Name: Hakon Erikson
Gender: Male
Age: 35
Birth Date: abt 1865
Departure Date: 14 Feb 1900
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Destination Port: New York, USA
Ship Name: Teutonic

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JaneC
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Posted - 28/08/2015 :  03:39:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
1885, Karl and Kirstine Eriksen - new to the family are
Gustav Adolf Eriksen 1878,
Anna Karoline Eriksen 1880,
Frantz Nicolay Eriksen 1883:
Link


1875 census, Briskeby, Akershus, Norway (per Ancestry)
Karl Eriksen 37
Kristine Hansen 35
Hakon Emil Eriksen 11
Nils Karelius Eriksen 9
Alfred Rudolf Eriksen 7
Filip Josef Eriksen 5
Karl Ludvig Eriksen 2


This 20-year-old Frantz Nicolai Ericksen going to New York in 1903 fits the description of Haakon Emil's brother: Link


Also emigrating earlier were a Gustaf Adolf Eriksen and an Anna Karoline Eriksen of the right age to be Haakon's brother Gustaf Adolf b 1878 and sister Anna Karoline b 1880.

Edited by - JaneC on 28/08/2015 18:53:29
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AntonH
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Posted - 28/08/2015 :  17:00:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The arrival of Frantz Nicolai Ericksen. Last address was Norway. Going to his brother Hakon Ericksen,White Dental Works, Princes Bay Staten Island NY.

Frantz Nicholay Erichsen
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Frantz Nicholay Erichsen
Arrival Date: 16 Jun 1903
Birth Date: abt 1883
Age: 20 Years 3 Months
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Christiania
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: United States
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JaneC
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Posted - 28/08/2015 :  18:29:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It is Haakon's brother Gustav emigrating in May 1900:

Departing Oslo: Link

New York Passenger Lists (Ancestry.com)
Gustav A Eriksen, age 21, born about 1879, Norwegian
Mechanic
Going to brother Hakon Erikson in New York
Port of Departure: Christiania
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Arrival Date: 1 May 1900
Ship Name: Norge

Haakon Emil Eriksen is starting to look like quite the family man...

Edited by - JaneC on 28/08/2015 18:30:57
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jkmarler
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Posted - 28/08/2015 :  18:36:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40

The arrival of Frantz Nicolai Ericksen. Last address was Norway. Going to his brother Hakon Ericksen,White Dental Works, Princes Bay Staten Island NY.



This gives a clarified meaning to his occupation as "polisher."
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JaneC
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Posted - 28/08/2015 :  18:41:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
An Anna Caroline Eriksen, unmarried, files for U.S. citizenship in 1925.
Born 06 Aug 1880 in Christiania.
Arrived USA Sept 1900
Lives in New York at 854 5th Avenue.
Witnesses to her character and residency are James Murphy and Cora Andersen.

Leaving Oslo, might be the same Anna Caroline:
Link

Edited by - JaneC on 28/08/2015 18:44:03
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AntonH
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Posted - 29/08/2015 :  00:29:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hakon Emil Ericksen found in earlier 1875 Norwegian Census.

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01038027046603

However there is also a set of brothers Emil and Hjalmar Ericksen also living in Norway in the 1875 Census and who also ended up in New York. Both are listed a muscians in the New York Census, We also found their arrival earlier, also listed as muscians.

http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1875&knr=0301&kenr=028&bnr=1533&lnr=00

Emil Erickson
in the New York, State Census, 1892
Name: Emil Erickson
Birth Year: abt 1866
Birth Place: Norway
Age: 26
Gender: Male
Citizenship: Alien
Residence Place: Brooklyn, Kings
Ward: Ward 10
Election District: 19






Edited by - AntonH on 29/08/2015 02:14:04
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