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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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 Posted - 29/08/2015 : 02:30:57
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Originally posted by vivi
Hi
Nicoline left june 1903 with two children and was going to New York. Her husband had left earlier. They continued to Canada after a while.
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/gen/vis/8/pe00000000532669
How long did they stay in New York? Long enough for a baby to be baptized. Who did Gustaf state as his destination in New York? |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/08/2015 : 16:16:16
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Who did Gustaf state as his destination in New York?
To my brother Hakon Eircksen New York
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/08/2015 : 17:33:51
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How long did they stay in New York?
They may have never made it to New York. I had a tough time finding their arrival, until I stumbled upon Agnes in the Massachusetts arrivals. Here is Nicoline arriving with children in the Massachusetts records.
She is listed as going to her husband Gustav Lindberg, Rappidan, Minnestoa.
Lina Lindberg
in the Massachusetts, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1963
Name: Lina Lindberg
Gender: Female
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Age: 34
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Ultonia
Arrival Date: 19 Jun 1903
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Gustav Lindberg
Last Residence: Christiania
Found using blind luck technique under Agnes Lindberg
Agnes Lindberg
in the Massachusetts, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1963
Name: Agnes Lindberg
Gender: Female
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Age: 10
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: Ultonia
Arrival Date: 19 Jun 1903
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Friend's Name: Gustav Lindberg
Last Residence: Christiania |
Edited by - AntonH on 29/08/2015 17:38:45 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/08/2015 : 17:40:50
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By 1910 they are in South Dakota.
Nicolena Lindberg
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Nicolena Lindberg
Age in 1910: 41
Birth Year: abt 1869
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Lone Tree, Stanley, South Dakota
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1903
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Gustave Lindberg
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Gustave Lindberg 32
Nicolena Lindberg 41
Agnes Lindberg 17
Gustave Lindberg Jr. 10
Alberta Lindberg 2
However I did find the family in the 1905 Minnesota Census living in Rappidan. Minnesota
Name: Agnes Linberg
Age: 12
Census Date: 7 Jun 1905
County: Blue Earth
Locality: Rapidan
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Female
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
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Edited by - AntonH on 29/08/2015 17:49:49 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/08/2015 : 22:37:17
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If this is the right Haakon, then where does Weng come from? From his birth place? from his father (a name from Sweden?)?
from Ancestry.com, Norway, Select Marriages database
Name: Carl Erikson, 26
Birth Date: 1838
Marriage Date: 21 Aug 1864
Marriage Place: Ostre Aker, Oslo, Akershus, Norway
Father: Erik Andersen
Spouse: Kirstine Hansdr
FHL Film Number: 255739 Reference ID: 2:133HXSD
See #19 |
Edited by - JaneC on 29/08/2015 22:38:32 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/08/2015 : 23:35:18
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Weng is no more and maybe less common in Sweden than in Norway.
In Ancestry.com there are about 21 million baptism records and only 44 with the last name Weng. None of them named Hakon.
There are about 5 million marriages and only 15 named Weng. Most of them in the County of Akershus. None of them named Hakon.
In Ancestry.com there are about 26 million baptism records for Sweden and only two named Weng. None named Hakon.
A separate data base of Indexed Baptisms of about 12 million names contains only 7 Weng. None named Hakon.
Not much better luck can be found using Wang, Veng or Vang. Although Vang is probably the most common, but still only a few hundred out of millions and none with the first name of Hakon or Haakon for that matter.
So why the Weng? Was it a mis-spelling by the person who filled out the manifest. or what, hard to come to a good conclusion.
The only thing we know is that the Hakon Ericksen found in New York does belongs to the family you have posted above. However we have yet to find any connection to Jørgine Strand. The only reason for coming back to him again and again is that he is the only Hakon in New York in the right time frame, and of the right age and unmarried (actually a widower). |
Edited by - AntonH on 29/08/2015 23:42:22 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 29/08/2015 : 23:53:36
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There is a Veng farm in Enebak Parish, Akershus County. But I have not found any Hakon connected to it.
There are some Hakons connected with a Vang farm. The one with a birth year of some interest is this one.
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01038032005604 |
Edited by - AntonH on 30/08/2015 00:12:38 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/08/2015 : 02:07:40
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Here is a snippet from wikipedia on Rapidan, Minnesota:
"Rapidan Township is a township in Blue Earth County, Minnesota, United States. "
Blue Earth county is where Jorgine's and Nicolena's uncles lived. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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7790 Posts |
Posted - 30/08/2015 : 02:33:23
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Originally posted by JaneC
If this is the right Haakon, then where does Weng come from? From his birth place? from his father (a name from Sweden?)?
from Ancestry.com, Norway, Select Marriages database
Name: Carl Erikson, 26
Birth Date: 1838
Marriage Date: 21 Aug 1864
Marriage Place: Ostre Aker, Oslo, Akershus, Norway
Father: Erik Andersen
Spouse: Kirstine Hansdr
FHL Film Number: 255739 Reference ID: 2:133HXSD
See #19
The mother's home / farm is Egebergsvingen. Perhaps the source? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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7790 Posts |
Posted - 30/08/2015 : 07:22:51
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Originally posted by lyndal40
By 1910 they are in South Dakota.
Nicolena Lindberg
in the 1910 United States Federal Census
Name: Nicolena Lindberg
Age in 1910: 41
Birth Year: abt 1869
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1910: Lone Tree, Stanley, South Dakota
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1903
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Gustave Lindberg
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Gustave Lindberg 32
Nicolena Lindberg 41
Agnes Lindberg 17
Gustave Lindberg Jr. 10
Alberta Lindberg 2
However I did find the family in the 1905 Minnesota Census living in Rappidan. Minnesota
Name: Agnes Linberg
Age: 12
Census Date: 7 Jun 1905
County: Blue Earth
Locality: Rapidan
Birth Location: Norway
Gender: Female
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
In the ELCA baptisms & confirmations database there is an Anna Alberta Lindberg born to Mr / Mrs Gus Lindberg on 22 May 1907, baptized on 4 Aug 1907, #2 in 1907, in a church identified as St. Olaf Lutheran in Martin county, Minnesota. He faddernes are Mr&Mrs M Berthelson, Julia Anderson, Ole Anderson
In the same database in the same church in the confirmation records is Agnes Lindberg b.3 Apr 1893 is confirmed on 3rd Nov 1907, daughter of Mr & Mrs Gus Lindberg.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 01/09/2015 : 16:02:54
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Originally posted by lyndal40
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Who did Gustaf state as his destination in New York?
To my brother Hakon Eircksen New York
Sorry, I should have been more specific, Gustaf Lindberg in either New York or Boston.... |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 01/09/2015 : 16:59:14
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My fault also, I should have realized since you were asking about Nicoline as well, that your question referred to her husband Gustaf and not her brother Gustav A Ericksen. It was Gustav A Ericksen who ended up in New York in 1900 and was going to see his brother Hakon Ericksen.
Anders Gustav Lindberg left in 1902
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000529788
Here is arrival of Anders Gustav Lindberg husband of Nicoline. He is going to H. A. Strand, Rappidan, M
Name: Gust Lindberg
Arrival Date: 13 Sep 1902
Birth Date: abt 1878
Age: 24
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Swedish
Port of Departure: Southampton, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Philadelphia |
Edited by - AntonH on 01/09/2015 17:06:13 |
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vivi
Senior member
Norway
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Posted - 06/09/2015 : 00:37:07
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Hi - again
I have been looking a little closer at Håkon Einar Wang born 29. oct. 1877 in Vestre Aker.
(I must admit he is my number one suspect at the moment.)
In the norwegian 1900 census he is living in Oslo with his widowed mother Sofia and sister Asta using the name Einar Vang. He is a mechanic in Frognerkilen which is very close to Snarøya where Jørgine's sister lived 1900.
His mother's occupation is "syr" (is sewing) and in the 1910 census his sister Asta is "syerske" (seamstress) just like Jørgine was in 1893.
He might have met Jørgine either in Oslo, near his workplace or as his mother's/sister's colleague.
1900 census:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01037045067304
1910 census:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036392021361
But I have not found him leaving Norway. If he could be found in New York, the evidences would be very strong!
The names he might have used in any combination are Håkon Einar Olsen Andersen Wang (in different spelling-variations).
The relative of Jørgine I'm helping is right now in New York visiting relatives. He has also planned to search for Jørgine.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/09/2015 : 01:45:28
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Well the name is not quite correct but here is a Einar Vang, going to his Aunt in Brooklyn, NY
Einer Oscar Vang
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Einer Oscar Vang
Arrival Date: 26 Feb 1904
Birth Date: abt 1876
Age: 28
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Majestic |
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What happened to Anna Jørgine b. 1875?
