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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 06/09/2015 : 02:06:40
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He is not a real good fit based on further research. Here is what I found on him.
Einar Oskar Wang
in the U.S., World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
Name: Einar Oskar Wang
City: Brooklyn
County: Kings
State: New York
Birth Date: 25 Jul 1875
Race: White
Draft Board: 027
Based on his birth date Ancestry.com brings up this person.
Name: Einar Oskar Wang
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 25 jul 1875
Baptism Date: 26 des 1875 (26 Dec 1875)
Baptism Place: Moss, Østfold, Norway
Father: Christian August Wang
Mother: Josephine Christine Myhrvold
He is also married
Einar Wang
in the New York, New York, Marriage Index 1866-1937
Name: Einar Wang
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 12 Oct 1912
Marriage Place: Kings, New York, USA
Spouse: Alma Borch
Certificate Number: 10738
He shows up in the 1915 New York Census and the 1920 US Census if you are interested in more information on him.
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vivi
Senior member
Norway
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Posted - 06/09/2015 : 02:10:52
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Hi
Håkon Einar must have come to in New York before 31. aug. 1900 (if he is the correct one).
According to the norwegian 1910 census he had a daughter born in Oslo in february 1904.
I found the baptizm of Einar Oscar Wang in Moss so he is another person and not interesting.
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Edited by - vivi on 06/09/2015 02:18:42 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2015 : 02:17:34
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| But he is in the 1900 Noregian Census that you posted, ikke sant. How could Jørgine be going to see him in the US if he is living in Norway. I confess I am a little confused. |
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vivi
Senior member
Norway
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Posted - 06/09/2015 : 02:19:57
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The norwegian 1900 census was held late december 1900. He could have come back after a stay in US where he met Jørgine. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2015 : 02:28:56
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| Where is he in the 1910 Norwegian Census. The 1900 US Census was held in June, so if Jørgine was to meet him in NY in August he should be in the 1900 US Census as well. |
Edited by - AntonH on 06/09/2015 02:36:36 |
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vivi
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Norway
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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vivi
Senior member
Norway
371 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2015 : 03:10:42
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Hi
I have searched this book, but not found anything.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2015 : 03:51:30
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An Einar Olsen listed as a sailor.Destination is listed as Boston
Name: Einar Olsen
Arrival Date: 8 Feb 1897
Birth Date: abt 1877
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Norwegian
Port of Departure: Christiania
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Thingvalla
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2015 : 10:21:34
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When Jorgine traveled to US, she gave not only a name (Haakon Weng) but also an address in New York as her destination:
5046 133rd Street
Anton tried to find out about it, early on.
Any thoughts on how to find out who was living at that address on census day 1900? Also what kind of dwelling it was? If a hotel, it could be it is only a transient landing spot, and Haakon Weng could live elsewhere in the U.S.
Also, "a friend" paid for Jorgine's ticket. Is there any way to check who paid? Likely Haakon Weng paid, but at least we'd have another rendering of his name - maybe including his patronymic.
The guess that Haakon paid is one reason he seems not guilty of evil to me - it is only a guess! To lure her to New York was a rather expensive undertaking. Much more convenient to target a local person if a bad man wants to commit some kind of crime.
If Haakon Einar Weng b 1877 V. Aker is the correct person, he would have been in the US only briefly and thus hard to find. Let's say, for the moment, he is correct. What we then see he returned to Norway, married, and had a family. Is there any way to know if he ever served time in a Norwegian prison (or similar indication of a criminal character). If not, he appears to be a law abiding, ordinary man. So even if he's the right guy - if - then Jorgine's fate is still unknown.
Jorgine's relation in New York will have the advantage of making local inquiries, for leads not available online.
Perhaps someone has a suggestion for agencies to visit and/or questions to ask?
The local genealogy society might have a volunteer willing to help or at least make suggestions. |
Edited by - JaneC on 06/09/2015 11:20:46 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2015 : 10:24:50
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Originally posted by lyndal40
It is a tough one, I used Ancestry.com last evening with no luck trying to find any person living in New York with that name. You can Google map133rd Street. It is a long street running from the west side Manhatten to the east side of the Bronx, However using 5046 does not really bring up a specific address so I wonder about that.
Here is Anton's report about looking for this place.
Some New York genealogy links.
http://www.nycnuts.net/nylinks/ |
Edited by - JaneC on 06/09/2015 11:37:20 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 06/09/2015 : 17:49:36
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The address as I read it off the manifest for Jørgine does not make any sense, at least in the way that 133rd street is currently numbered. In Manhatten 133rd street runs from the 100's on the East Side ie the East River to the 700's on the West Side ie the Hudson River. The street also runs through the Bronx, But also from about 500's to 700's. So there is something about that address that does not make sense.
The address in the original manifest shows a 504 with a slight space between the 504 and the 6 followed by a comma and then 133rd New York. The 6 is set a little higher than the 504 but it is hard to explain why the six if it is not part of the street address of 5406.
Unless the address is for Apt. 540 at number 6, 133rd street, Maybe a stretch. |
Edited by - AntonH on 06/09/2015 22:31:35 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 07/09/2015 : 06:21:58
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Searching New York City city directories 1905 +/- 5 years for Jorgine found two possibles:
1902 Anne Wang 2016 1st Ave in the woodenware business
1906 A. Strand 5619 5th Ave. Laundry
I didn't look for Anne or Jorgine Anderson, though there were very few Jorgine/ Jorgina with any last name but more Georgina but none of the possible last names Anderson, Wang, Strand, etc. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2015 : 15:33:49
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A 1922 book on "chain stores of New York" includes grocery store A. D. Rittenhoff & Co. Inc., 504 West 133rd Street, New York City. It's not clear if this is the same address, plus it's years later. A store building could have apartments on upper levels.
Anna Strand should be in 1905 New York state census. A problem with that name is that vivi stressed the family dynamics were such that Jorgine would write home were she living. Of course, as always, we don't know until we know. |
Edited by - JaneC on 07/09/2015 15:43:31 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 07/09/2015 : 16:22:12
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There are seven Ann* Strands in the 1905 New York Census, Three of them married, so I would assume using the Strand name of their husband. The birth year of the others is not very promising.
View Record
Anna Strand
abt 1849 Brooklyn, Kings
Born Sweden
View Record
Annie Strand
abt 1858 Manhattan, New York
Born Sseden
View Record
Anna Strand
abt 1881 Manhattan, New York
Born Norway
Living with two sisters from Ireland, Occupation is listed as Dresswork.
At 324 East 50th Street
Listed as having been in America 10 years
View Record
Annie Strand
abt 1885 Manhattan, New York
Born Sweden
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What happened to Anna Jørgine b. 1875?
