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SandraSeverson
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 Posted - 22/09/2015 : 15:13:12
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Looking for death of Jens Ånundsen Selseng. I have his birth at 13 Sep 1784 in Sogndal. And have found that church record. I saw on a family tree in Ancestry.com that his death was 21 Sep 1850. That source listed the following:
Gravlagde i delar av Sogn og Fjordane i perioden 1669-1920 (Digitalarkivet)
However, when I look at the archives I can't find that sources. I did find this:
Source Information: Sogn og Fjordane county, Sogndal, Ministerialbok Nos. A 12II (1847-1877), the Dead and buried in 1850, page 289. Permanent Image Link: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:NBN:no-a1450-kb20070306610063.jpg
But I am not sure this is the right record. It puts his age at 64. Not the 66 if he was born in 1784. Hope someone can look at this for me.. Appreciate any help I can get |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 22/09/2015 : 16:29:21
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The source is this database. It's a transcript of the church record you found. And it's true, as you point out, that it list him as 64 y.o. in 1850, ie born around 1786. But he could very well be 66 y.o. at the time of death, you should never trust the age entry in the churchbooks 100%.
However, it list him as dead on the "Stenehjem" farm. It could be that he moved there, or it could be another spelling of Selseng. Or it could be a different Jens Ånundsen. A farm history book of the area could be used to settle it. |
Edited by - jwiborg on 22/09/2015 16:41:34 |
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SandraSeverson
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Posted - 22/09/2015 : 16:59:42
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| The church book lists the correct parents for Jens and the year as 1784. How could the transcript be off by 2 years? I can't get to Madison, WI for quite awhile to look at the books there. Maybe they can look it up for me and email me the information. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 22/09/2015 : 18:03:35
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The transcript is not off by 2 years. The transcript and the churchbook states the same, ie. that Jens was 64 y.o. when he died. The transcript have calculated birthyear=1786 since he died in 1850.
But what if he actually was 66 years old when he died? Maybe the priest wrote down the wrong age for Jens? I doubt the priest knew Jens' age, so maybe he entered a guesstimate? Or maybe the person who reported his age (son, daughter, wife, -in-laws...) didn't know the exact age for Jens? There are many reasons the age in a funeral record can be wrong. The priest did very seldom or never look up 80-90 year old birthrecords to find out how old the person was before the funeral. He relied on relatives to state the age of the decesed.
Another (less likely, but still) possibility is that Jens Aanundsen Stenehjem and Jens Aanundsen Selseng are two different persons. |
Edited by - jwiborg on 22/09/2015 18:28:58 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 22/09/2015 : 22:03:40
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This is what happens in the censuses.
Those who visited the farms during the censuses (the priest or his assistants) asked how old will you be on your next birthday. If you was 40 the previous day the answer was 41. This was noted down in a draft and inserted later.
Of cource, errors occured. There was no proofreading. It is the original from the censuses that are used in Digitalarkivet even one know it is errors.
Anyone can contribute to correct errors by contacting the Archives.
A correction will be marked with a hammer to click on where you can read the correction and your name as contributer.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 22/09/2015 : 23:33:06
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| This is not related to any census. |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 22/09/2015 : 23:40:40
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quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg
This is not related to any census.
I know that very well.
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SandraSeverson
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Posted - 24/09/2015 : 13:37:33
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| Thank you both for the information about Jens. As soon as I can get to or talk to the people at the Naeseth Library in Madison, WI I I will see what light they can shed on this. |
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