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Kenneth Lie
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jkmarler
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 Posted - 17/01/2016 : 20:25:48
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Originally posted by Kenneth Lie
What do you think about the ranch owner got kicked to death by his own horses? Is that a thing that would be in the newspapers or in an archive somewhere?
Likely that would be a news worthy story or could even be in a community history story about a family, words to try in full text search for sure since you don't have a name.
The reason I asked about other relatives is that there is a Michael Lotoft living in Montana which is a US state south of part of Saskatchewan. People usually come to a relative or someone they know.
Here is a death record for Mikal Lotoft:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QVBQ-723T |
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Kenneth Lie
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Posted - 17/01/2016 : 20:32:29
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Ok, i will sure check it out if this person knows anything or have some photos lying around.
If you have his contact information you can email them to me; lie.ken@broadpark.no
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JaneC
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Posted - 17/01/2016 : 20:44:13
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Hi again, as I recall Saskatchewan was settled by distinct ethnic groups who clustered together in what was called the "Canadian mosaic" as compared to the United States "melting pot." The reference to "a Norwegian man born in Canada" seems to reflect this mosaic perspective. Just now I googled for a map based on this idea and found this one:
http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~cansk/maps/ethnic-bloc.html
Maybe Peter Ingvald's locations fall in the "Scandinavian bloc settlements."
Surely Peter Ingvald had a plan in mind to travel so far, to western jnland Canada. It's not a "getaway" spot for free spirits and travelers. Most likely a Norwegian would go there looking to homestead land - to acquire land through Canadian homestead laws. The homestead law changed in the early 1930s? And maybe if it was not so easy then to acquire land, an immigrant might go home again? Maybe your private family history sheds light on Peter Ingvald's purpose. Speculation about it can be misleading. On the other hand, forming a hypothesis can give a research path to follow - for example, check homestead filings in Saskatchewan.The dates on the photos developed in Regina an d Melfort, if any, would help pin him down during his very short stay in Canada.
The wonderful posted photos show wheat farming rather than horse ranching, for whatever that's worth.
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jkmarler
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Kenneth Lie
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Posted - 17/01/2016 : 20:58:45
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Hi thank you Jane ;) That map is helpful, look at the Melfort area, its pacticlly red of scandinavians :p :)
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Kenneth Lie
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Posted - 17/01/2016 : 21:04:32
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JaneC
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Posted - 17/01/2016 : 21:06:59
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An obituary for Michael Lotoft, born August 1913 at Lotoft, Sokndal link
1900 census for Johan Pedersen f 1871, with parents and siblings - just in case:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01037257001066
Earlier the 1931 Canada census was mentioned. It will be available in 2023.
Among others, Naicam was a Norwegian settlement 50 km south of Melfort: link
The ethnic blocs idea doesn't take us too far but does strengthen the chance Peter Ingvald was drawn thither by a friend or relative - and that person, whomever he may be, may be findable. A long shot.
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Kenneth Lie
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Posted - 20/01/2016 : 14:18:25
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Hi Jane
Thank you for another hint. Mickael Løtoft is not a relative, and far as I know, after I picked up the phone and called a grandson who knew very litle, but he knew he was traveling alone and that he wasnt going to any friends or family.
Naicam is a hot tip :)
Do you know if there are any criteria for exception on the matter of waiting to 2023 for the 1931 cencus?
I can provide a letter of consenment (?) from my grandmother (nearest living relative to Peder)
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 22/01/2016 : 04:51:01
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| Hi Kenneth, no, sorry, I don't know about options for accessing census. You could Google that. But since you don't know where you would check, and since census presumably is not digitized and transcribed yet, how would one go about searching it anyway?Though I don't know, I am guessing that's the state of affairs... |
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Kenneth Lie
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Posted - 22/01/2016 : 16:54:38
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Hi Jane
Ok :) I have now sent a formal request for entering the 1931 cencus, included a email to the govenor of Saskatchewan's office explaining the situation. Turns out she has the power to allow it, amongst others.
I am also to the conclusion that he was part of a emigrant and settlement program.
In the 1920's the Canadian government asked the railway companies to help them import foreign workers to Canada. Scandinavian workers were preffered, with the Brittish.
Canadian National Railway opened CNR department of colonization and agriculture. They placed ads in newspapers overseas, often met the workers in England and followed them over or met them in f.x Quebec when the ships came in. They also worked with the steamline companies.
Since Peder was a "landed immigrant" and heading for "C.N.R Winnipeg, Manitoba", i findt it very likely that he infact was a part of this.
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JaneC
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Posted - 23/01/2016 : 01:46:11
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| That's a worthy theory. Thinking about it that way makes it more credible he might travel to Saskatchewan even without a friend or relative awaiting him there (though the latter possibility still stands of course). Long week here, going out of town tomorrow. |
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Hunting for an ancestor. Pieces of the puzzle
