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CobyTreadway
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 Posted - 27/04/2016 : 02:55:30
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Hello,
I need help tracking down the parents and ancestors of my Great Great Grandfather Edward Nilsen. He was born in Norway on 23 January 1874, but I have no idea where, though a ship manifest for the SS Philadelphia in 1904 lists him as coming from Stavanger. He immigrated to the US in 1889 and was naturalized in 1905. He was a marine engineer and spent a great deal of time on ships. He was married to Marie Adelaide Rabbach, had one daughter named Myrtle Nilsen, and lived for a bit in Harris County, Mississippi but lived most of his life in New Orleans. He died in 1969.
I have hit a brick wall here, and unfortunately, I do not think my Grandfather remembers much of Edward's history.
Any help or tips would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Coby Treadway |
Edited by - CobyTreadway on 27/04/2016 02:56:22 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 27/04/2016 : 03:56:01
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Here are 7 Edv* Nils* b 1874 found in the Norwegian 1900 census:
Karl Edvart Nils. 1874 Skåtøy herred* s ug Andenstyrmand Skaatø: Nytomt Folketelling 1900 for 0815 Skåtøy herred
Edvard Nilssen 1874 Tingvoll herred* S ug husmandssøn Tingvoll: Bergemsbakken Folketelling 1900 for 1560 Tingvoll herred
Edvard Nils. 1874 Stoelvedalen Hed hf g Former v/ Jernstøberi Drammen kjøpstad: Erik Olsens Gade Folketelling 1900 for 0602 Drammen kjøpstad
Edvart Nilsen 1874 Flakstad s ug Fisker Flakstad herred: Rostad Folketelling 1900 for 1859 Flakstad herred
Karl Edvin Nilsen 1874 Fr.hald hf g Skomagersvend Kristiania kjøpstad: Seildugsgade 7b Folketelling 1900 for 0301 Kristiania kjøpstad
Edvard Johan Nilsen 1874 Bergen Fostersøn ug Matros til sjøs Askøens: Kleppe nedre Folketelling 1900 for 1247 Askøy herred
Edvard Nilsen 1874 Bergen kjøpstad* S ug Handelsbetjent i Manufactur Bergen kjøpstad: Hans Hauges Gade Folketelling 1900 for 1301 Bergen kjøpstad
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 27/04/2016 : 03:58:10
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I wonder if he did not arrive in the US earlier than your 1904 and was just shipping out of Stavanger for that 1904 trip and could have been born somewhere else in Norway. In the original mainfest of the 1904 arrival he is grouped with four other seamen, all giving a Captain Johannessen in Brooklyn as the person they are going to join.
Edward Nilsen
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Edward Nilsen
Arrival Date: 10 Jul 1904
Birth Date: abt 1874
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Southampton
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Philadelphia
Nils Gundersen and Haakon Antonsen are two of the five and are also listed on the data base of emigrants from Stavanger in 194 |
Edited by - AntonH on 27/04/2016 04:00:38 |
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jkmarler
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CobyTreadway
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Posted - 27/04/2016 : 04:17:09
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He definitely arrived in America prior to 1904, or at least his naturalization record indicates so, as it shows his year of arrival to be 1889, port unknown. His official date of citizenship is 27 November, 1905. I am leaning in the direction that he was only shipping out of Stavanger as well.
Jkmarler, thanks for the correction on my typo. I meant to type 1965. Also, thanks for the list of names, I'm going to,start cross referencing them.
Coby |
Edited by - CobyTreadway on 27/04/2016 04:19:18 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 27/04/2016 : 09:59:20
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Originally posted by CobyTreadway
I need help tracking down the parents and ancestors of my Great Great Grandfather Edward Nilsen....A ship manifest for the SS Philadelphia in 1904 lists him as coming from Stavanger..
He immigrated to the US in 1889 and was naturalized in 1905.
Coby Treadway
Hi all, Coby do you have a copy of the original of:
1. His marriage record
2. 1900 census in USA (gives month of birth)
3. His naturalization papers a) declaration of intent b) final papers - or are you looking at an index card to naturalization
4. World War I draft registration (lists full date of birth)
5. World War II draft registration
6. Death record
7. Obit
Maybe you got his date of birth from one of these documents? Or what is the source?
Born in 1874, he may or may not appear in the portion of the 1875 and 1885 Norway census that is digitally searchable (the searchable census is incomplete). By 1900 Norway census he's presumably in the USA unless he moved back and forth. Is there reason to think he's one of those Edwards in the 1900 Norway census?
When did he marry? Where?
Do you have any particular reason to think the guy traveling in 1904 is your Edward? A seaman headed to join a ship's company in Brooklyn doesn't fit well with your story of him in Mississippi and Louisiana...
All records in USA and all details in each are relevant (full record, not a transcription or index card or other abbreviated indication that a record exists).. For example, the father's name on a child's birth certificate could show a middle initial. Now that help is here, you can trust the forum to take an interest in any and all detail you can share (post) from your research so far. Most often, the needed clues to a Norwegian identity are to be found in the immigrant's new country (in this case USA).
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jkmarler
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Posted - 27/04/2016 : 11:36:50
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| Edward Nilsen's obituary was published in the Times-Picayune on 3 Feb 1965. There is not a lot of extra information in it. Survivors are daughter Mrs. Sylvester Treadway, 8 grandchildren, 30 great grandchildren, no siblings mentioned. He is mentioned as a native of Norway but no particular place named there. One piece of extra information is that he has lived in New Orleans for the past 68 years so since approximately 1897 or so. |
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CobyTreadway
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Posted - 27/04/2016 : 15:55:48
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Hello Jane,
All I have is a copy of his Naturalization Record index card. I've got Edward's birthday, 23 January 1874, his birth country of Norway. His port of entry is unknown, but his arrival year is 1889, and his naturalization date is 27 November 1905.
I have not been able to find him on the 1900 census, but he is on the 1910 census and is living with his wife Marie and daughter Myrtle in Harrison County, Mississippi's 2nd Beat, which I believe to include Biloxi and Gulfport, which makes sense if he was in the naval shipping business. His occupation is fireman naval stores company. I have no marriage license for Edward and Marie but the census indicates they were married for 8 years so around 1902.
By 1920 he is living in New Orleans and is listed as a chief ship's engineer. I can find him as a member of the crew of the SS Speedwell, as the chief engineer. I have not found his WW1 or WW2 draft registrations yet, but I'm not confident they would give me more information than I already have.
I do not believe he would be on the 1900 Norwegian census since he should be in the USA, even if he is working in the shipping industry. Perhaps that is why he has no known port of arrival, since it is possible he was in and out of various ports? Maybe that could explain a record of him in New York?
I did, however, find an Edvard Nilsen last night in the 1875 Norwegian census, born in 1874 in Drobak, in Fron (Frogn), to Nils Olsen and Elen Larsdatter. I could not find him again in the 1900 census. Could this be him?
Thanks again everyone,
Coby |
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AntonH
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jkmarler
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JaneC
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Posted - 27/04/2016 : 17:26:50
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It's great you're helping search, Coby, and thanks for additional detail. You have Edward's birth date but what is the source? The addition of the missing records coyld be critical.I found an Edvard born 23 Jan 1874 to Sivert Olsen in Trondheim, no time now to recheck but there was a farm name with Sivert name... Didn't seem too hot a prospect.
Naturalization index cards are much abbreviated. |
Edited by - JaneC on 27/04/2016 17:27:53 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 27/04/2016 : 17:31:33
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Forsand municipality
Edvard (Nilsen) born out of wedloc "uægte" Jan 23. 1874 to "Tjenestepige "Servant maid" Inger Ingebrigtsdatter Lyse (farm name) b. 1849 and bachelor and " skolelærer" teacher Nils Nilsen Henjum b. 1850, see #18
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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