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PeggyMnich
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Posted - 03/05/2016 :  16:09:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi :-) I am new here. I am working on my family tree at Ancestry and have a passenger list for the family who arrived Philadelphia from Scotland.

This family -- Johann Will, wife Walburga, and their four children (Anton, Andrew, Johann, and Franziska) -- left Glasgow, Scotland, on SS Manitoban, arriving Philadelphia, Pennsylvania on 26 Mar 1888. I wanted to find the departure date from Scotland so I checked this web site http://www.norwayheritage.com/p_ship.asp?sh=manit

I saw that ship left Glasgow on 09 Mar 1888, and arrived at Halifax on 21 Mar 1888. There is no mention of that ship arriving in Philadelphia.

I am confused. Did this ship leave Halifax and sail to Philadelphia arriving there on 26 Mar 1888? Why is there no such record? Does anyone of you know?

Thank you

jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 03/05/2016 :  17:07:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ships often stop at several ports. In US the regulations are that the passenger list is filed a the first port of call in US.

This record says that Walburga and her family arrived at Philadelphia on the Manitoban:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KF69-D1S
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PeggyMnich
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Posted - 03/05/2016 :  17:19:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I apologize for not being clear in my comment that there is no mention of that ship arriving Philadelphia. What I really meant there is no mention of that ship leaving Halifax.

I do have that information you just shared above. I am just wondering why there are no records of SS Manitoban leaving Halifax for Philadelphia.

Thanks for your help! :-)
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jkmarler
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USA
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Posted - 03/05/2016 :  19:45:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At the newspaper site genealogybank.com there are lots of arrival records and "clearing" records of ships from various port city and commercial newspapers.

Unfortunately, I didn't see an article listing the departure of the Manitoban from Halifax on the March voyage. There was one mention published in Ypsilanti Commercial (Michigan) which was reporting from a read in the 21 March Halifax Recorder that some of the passengers of the disabled Nederland were going to be forwarded to Philadelphia by "the steamer Manitoban now due from Glasgow."

Apparently, the Glasgow to Halifax to Philadelphia voyage of the Manitoban was a preferred route and there are several other voyages from 1888 telling details of numbers of passengers and number of pounds of cargo delivered on that route.
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jwiborg
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Norway
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Posted - 03/05/2016 :  20:19:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
In 1888, Allan Line had 38 big steamships transporting passengers from UK to all over the US and Canada. Their ships landed in various ports in America, and the passengers departed at the port most convenient for their final destination.

In March of 1888, the SS Manitoban landed in both Halifax and Philadelphia. In fact also Boston, on the 20th. Allan Line used the following ports: Quebec, Halifax, Portland, Boston, New York, Philadelphia and Baltimore, but not all ports on every journey.

The route from Halifax to Philadelphia in not an emigrant journey in this aspect. I assume no new passengers boarded the ship after it left UK/Ireland. You can look at the various ports in America as "stopovers", where passengers could depart only.

SS Manitoban, march 1888 arrivals:
Quebec: -
Halifax: March 21st. 152 passengers departed. (also recorded as March 23rd.)
Portland: -
Boston: March 20th. 330 passengers departed.
New York: -
Philadelphia: March 26th. 633 passengers departed.
Baltimore: -

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