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MarilynSmith
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 Posted - 03/06/2016 : 12:28:42
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Would any one have a copy of the bygdebook for Furnes parish and be willing to do a look up for me please?
My great grandfather was Anders Pedersen Bjerke born 1 Dec 1851 at Bjerke eie to Peder Andersen and Klara Andersdatter. Their other children were: Marie born 1842 at Prostsoten eie, Furnæs, Vang.
Agnethe born 1845 at Haavi eie, Furnæs, Vang and Mikkel born 1848 at Stokseth, Odegaarden.
I believe Peder and Klare seperated and Klare had another daughter, Mathea 1859 to MIkkel Larsen.
I was wondering if there was any mention of the family in the bygdebook
Also need some help with the marriage record for Peder and Klare. If someone could also tell me what is being said in the 4th column, [Bride and Groom's birthplace] I would appreciate it.
Hedmark county, Vang, Furnes in Vang, Parish register (official) no. 10 (1841-1855), Married 1842, Page 272
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070118350688
Regards, Marilyn.
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 03/06/2016 : 15:50:41
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Bachelor and servant Peder Andersen Ihle eie, age 2o and a half and maid Clara Andersdatter Vestre Haave (Western Haave) 20 and a half.
Ihle eie means a sub farm under Ihle.
Peder was born in Vang parish and municipality, Hedmark County.
Clara was born in Ringsaker parish and municipality, Hedmark County.
Peders father; Anders Jacobsen
Clara's father; Anders Andersen.
Best men, Peder Lille Ihle (farm Little Ihle) and Thore Jevandord (farm name)
Vang Church build 1810.
Vang is today a sub parish in Hamar municipality, they merged 1992.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 03/06/2016 16:02:13 |
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Kåarto
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Norway
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Posted - 03/06/2016 : 20:15:36
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You are right regarding Mathea, she was born out of wedloc Jan. 12. 1859 in Vang parish. For both parents it was their "første leiermaal" first child born out of wedloc.
Maid Clara Andersdatter Furuberget, the father was Mikkel Larsen Grimsaker
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Edited by - Kåarto on 03/06/2016 21:08:01 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 03/06/2016 : 20:58:42
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Small correction:
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Marie born 1842 at Prostsoten eie, Furnæs, Vang
I believe the farm name should be Præstsæter eie.
The baptismal record and confirmation record for Mathea Mikkelsdatter says that the mother Clara Andersdatter was "Pige" (maiden).
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Kåarto
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Posted - 03/06/2016 : 21:09:08
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I wonder if it was two Clara Andersdatter in Vang?
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Kåarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 03/06/2016 : 22:42:24
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Want you to see this;
Anders Pedersen leaving Vang Mai 27. 1873, dest America (incorrect) link
Dest was Queensland Australia, leaving Oslo June 6. on St Olaf, occ. Blacksmith link
St Olaf sailed from Oslo to Hamburg, Germany where he changed ship.
Photo of St. Olaf down page link
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Edited by - Kåarto on 03/06/2016 22:44:14 |
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MarilynSmith
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 04/06/2016 : 03:19:31
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Thank you for the information and the link to a photo of the St. Olaf. I had found Anders leaving Vang and wondered about the America part. He may have changed his mind after leaving.
I have collected a bit on the family and thought I was going along quite well but then the road became rocky. One record for Mathea's baptism says konen Klare Andersdatter with a completely different set of sponsors.
SAH, Vang prestekontor, Hedmark, Parish register (copy) no. 9, 1836-1870, p. 97
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20070512920482
the other says pige and yes, her confirmation says the same. I couldn't find two Klare Andersdatters but will continue to look. Apart from different sponsors and konen/pige the details are the same for each baptism record. Found 2 records for each of the children for Klare and Peder except Mikkel. Marie's birth date was different being the 10th July on one and 17th July on the other with slight differences in sponsors. Agnethe and Anders had the same dates but again some differences in sponsors. The baptisms were entered in both SAH, Vang prestekontor, Hedmark, Parish register (official and Hedmark county, Furnes in Vang, Parish register copy. I am guessing the Vang prestekonter is a copy of what was recorded in the Furnes in Vang PR.
Thought I had followed the children through with marriages, children, moves etc then on the confirmation of Maria's daughter, Pauline, Maria gives her name as Maria [Olsdtr] Pedersdtr. Record is quite clear and easy to read. All I could think was, has she been told " Your father wasn't your father"? or am I on the wrong track.
Genealogy is fun/frustrating isn't it. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 04/06/2016 : 11:38:25
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Mathea Mikkelsdatter, born 1859, went to Christiania (Oslo) and she married a shoemaker Otto Ferdinand Andersen June 6 1886 in Trefoldighets parish, see #73.
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Edited by - eibache on 04/06/2016 15:21:11 |
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 04/06/2016 : 17:15:00
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A candidate for Clare (or Clara) Andersdatter is the one born Oct 2 1821 in Ringsaker, see #592.
Her parents were Anders Andersen and Marthe Pedersdatter, Nord Bjørge.
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eibache
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Posted - 04/06/2016 : 22:10:54
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Anders Andersen, his mother and siblings in 1801.
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MarilynSmith
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Posted - 05/06/2016 : 06:01:02
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Thank you Einar. I will check out all these records.
Regards, Marilyn. |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 05/06/2016 : 12:44:51
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quote:
Originally posted by MarilynSmith
My great grandfather was Anders Pedersen Bjerke born 1 Dec 1851 at Bjerke eie to Peder Andersen and Klara Andersdatter. Their other children were: Marie born 1842 at Prostsoten eie, Furnæs, Vang.
Einar was right, farm-name was Præstsætereie (Prestsæter-eie) Eie means to own.
Prestsæter was originally a farm under Vang vicarage. Peder and Clara was "Inderst" lodgers with their own household with no other obligations on the farm.
Maria's bapt. from August 7.1842 is right page #47
I wonder if Prestsæter and Prestsæter-eie was the same farm since Prestsæter was owned by Vang vicarage.(A sub farm under a sub farm make no sence)
From 1919 Prestsæter was under common land in Furnes.
Photo of Prestsæter down page link
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eibache
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Norway
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Posted - 05/06/2016 : 15:02:04
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Anders Andersen was baptized March 14 1787, see 8th record, left page.
His parents were Anders Erichsen and Margrete Michelsdatter, Biørge. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/06/2016 : 00:31:51
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The LDS Family History Library lists the Furnes bygdebok as “Furnes bygdebok”, 4 volumes by T. Bleken-Nilssen, Reidar Bækkelund. Their catalog lists that they have the books on their shelves in Salt Lake City and it also lists a few other US libraries with those volumes in their holdings. I do not think there is any ongoing sharing agreement between the US and Australian library systems but you could check that out from your country.
The National Library of Norway has those books in their online holdings but I believe you either have to be in Norway or have an educational domain as your email address to participate. You could make efforts to check that out too.
An index to the farm names in the Furnes books can be found online - http://www.hedmarkslekt.no/bboker.htm
It also appears that the Furnes Historielag stilll has the volumes of the Furnes bygdebok for sale -
http://www.furnes-historielag.no/index.php/boker/bokoversikt-med-priser
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MarilynSmith
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 06/06/2016 : 03:04:04
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Thank you so much everyone. I live in a rural area of New South Wales, Australia and no where near a Family History Centre to borrow this book from them but will try to buy it.
Have recently purchased Randi Bjørkvik’s archive for Hadeland and that was very helpful for my ancestors from that area.
I look at the photo of Prestsæter and wonder why you would leave places like that to migrate to North Queensland, Australia. The area that Anders lived in, Croydon and Herberton, was harsh country.
Regards, Marilyn. |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 06/06/2016 : 09:51:13
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I was wondering if there was any mention of the family in the bygdebook.
I have looked at an old version of the bygdebok for Furnes, but found nothing.
Reason could be that servants in the farms are not mentioned. I believe that Peder Andersen and Klara Andersdatter were servants moving from farm to farm as place of birth for the children indicates.
If you would like to check here is the Bygdebok.
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Furnes, Vang Bygdebook
