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Patowen
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 Posted - 06/06/2016 : 16:24:29
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I am looking for information about the heritage of Olaf Frederick Olsen, born in May of 1850 in Tonsberg, and died 7/12/38 in Minneapolis, MN.Wife Anna Marie Lampe (married 5/5/1872, Tonsberg). Eight children: Olaf Frederick Jr, (b 1873), Axel (b.1876), Hildegard (b.1877), Signa Charlotte (b.1879), Maria (b.1882), Harold (b.1884), Mattie (b.1886), Ralph (b.1890). In Minneapolis, he started the Olsen Fish Company.
I do not know when he came to the US, probably between 1886-1890 as his last child was born in MN.
Family story has it that Olaf was a wealthy man in Tonsberg, having three businesses:a lumberyard, a big ship, and a boys school. But the lumberyard burned, and the ship sank, and the school also failed. So Olav came to the US alone to work at a lumber camp in Iowa, as a timekeeper (?). In 1886, his wife Anna Marie auctioned off all the family belongings in Tonsberg ("big house on a hill with French wallpaper, grand piano..") and came to the US via Boston, taking a train to Minneapolis. He didn't know she was coming. (They had friends named Rasmussen in Minneapolis; she stayed with them.) She sent for him, he came.
Next week I am traveling to Norway and visiting Tonsberg. I would like to know anything about Olaf's or Anna Marie's ancestry.
Thanks for any help.
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 06/06/2016 : 18:04:28
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Interesting story. The family in 1885 census, below.
Address is125 Øvre Langgade, Tønsberg
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Patowen
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Posted - 06/06/2016 : 18:14:29
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| Thanks so much, Jane C; this is a start! The first confirmation that the family is actually from Tonsberg. Do you know how to interpret the address, could one find out what it might be equivalent to now? Thanks again. |
Edited by - Patowen on 06/06/2016 18:19:11 |
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JaneC
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Patowen
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Posted - 06/06/2016 : 18:35:33
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Originally posted by JaneC
As a start for Anne Marie, probably this is Anne Marie in 1865 census as a foster child:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01038105002890
That's interesting! Looks like she was raised by the Nilsen family. That explains why my family always said that something vague about not knowing her last name for certain, and that her family couldn't be traced. |
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eibache
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Posted - 06/06/2016 : 20:05:20
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Wife Anna Marie Lampe (married 5/5/1872, Tonsberg).
Correction, merchant Olaf Fredrik Olsen and maiden Anne Marie Lampe were married May 20 1872, see #15.
Anne Maries father was shomaker Carl Peter Pedersen Lampe and her mother was Martine, née Nielsen.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 06/06/2016 : 20:05:38
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Anne Maria (Carlsdatter) Lampe was born in Tønsberg Nov. 27. 1852
Parents; Shoemaker Carl Peter (Pedersen) Lampe and Martine born Nielsen, see #82
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Edited by - Kåarto on 06/06/2016 20:10:58 |
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Kåarto
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Posted - 06/06/2016 : 20:41:19
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The parents married in Tønsberg April 5. 1847
Bachelor and shoemaker Carl Peter Pedersen Lampe from Hildringsberg in Glava sub-parish in Værmeland (Sweden) born April 1824 and maid Martine Nielsen b.Dec. 4. 1823 in Tønsberg #8
Fathers; Peter Gustav Lampe on Kronsjø? (Kornsjø?) brug (saw-mill) and Christen Nielsen from Tønsberg
Hillringsberg (Hildringeberg) is a former Manor house and saw mill in Arvika municipality, Værmeland
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Glava church in Arvika municipality where Carl Peter Pedersen Lampe was baptized.
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Edited by - Kåarto on 07/06/2016 00:06:30 |
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eibache
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Posted - 06/06/2016 : 20:54:31
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I am looking for information about the heritage of Olaf Frederick Olsen, born in May of 1850 in Tonsberg
Very likely candidate is Ole Frederik born May 13 1850, see #40.
His parents were blacksmith Johan Olavus Frederiksen and Hanna Birgitte Schrøder.
(Olaf Frederick Olsen should according to Norwegian naming practice have been Ole Frederik Johansen.)
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Edited by - eibache on 07/06/2016 06:57:32 |
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eibache
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Posted - 06/06/2016 : 21:21:54
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Blacksmith Johan Olavus Fredriksen and Hanna Birgithe Schrøder were married July 25 1849, see #5.
Johan Olavus was born in Christiania (Oslo) and was 25 years old. His father was Fredrik Olsen.
Hanna Birgithe was born in Holmestrand and was 22 years old. Her father was pilot Ole Schrøder.
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Kåarto
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Posted - 06/06/2016 : 21:30:18
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Hillringsberg saw mill link
Hillringsberg Manor link
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Edited by - Kåarto on 06/06/2016 21:36:14 |
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Patowen
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Posted - 06/06/2016 : 22:33:56
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| Thank you Einar and Kare! This is a lot of great information, a lot to absorb and think about. I'm excited to share it with my brother and sister. |
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JaneC
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Posted - 07/06/2016 : 02:27:46
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Mother and children registered to leave Kristiania (=Oslo) 10 Nov 1887 on the Hekla
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The Hekla arrived New York 26 November. link
Olsen Fish Market in Minneapolis, Minnesota
http://www.olsenfish.com/
In 1885 census, these houses / buildings on these streets were included in the same census neighborhood with your Olsen family.
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/tellingskrets/tf01053270000001
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Olaf Fredrick Olsen's death record should name his parents and list his full birth date.. Available from Minnesota Historical Society in St. Paul. |
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eibache
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Posted - 07/06/2016 : 07:12:30
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Martine Nielsen, baptized as Mathea as said in the marriage record, was born Aug 16 1823, see #31.
Parents master mason Christen Nielsen and Ane Maria Larsdatter.
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Edited by - eibache on 07/06/2016 07:13:53 |
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eibache
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Posted - 07/06/2016 : 07:30:22
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Widower and mason Christen Nielsen, 27 years old, and Anne Maria Larsdatter, 26 years old, were married Dec 21 1819, see #5.
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JaneC
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Posted - 07/06/2016 : 13:16:07
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Looking for emigration of Olaf Fredrick Olsen, and searching for any man named Ol* Ol* with heimstad Tønsberg, departing any year, nets one likely candidate on the database where emigration of Anne Marie "Maren" and children was found. He was Olaf Olsen, age about 37, occupation Handelsmd leaving Oslo 24 June 1887 on the Rollo, destination Chicago: link
I think "handelsmand" translates as "trader." In 1885, Olaf Fredrick's occupation is "agent."
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This is probably your Olaf Fredrick Olsen in 1865. link
Occupation of 16-year-old Oluf, above, is "Handelslærling." The "lærling" part means student (apprentice).
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Olaf, Marie, and children in 1875 census
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The 1875 census lists Olaf's occupation as "Kjøbmand and Skibsreder."
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