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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/10/2016 : 01:57:02
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quote: Originally posted by JaneC
I know, right? That was a fun group effort by everyone! The obit was crucial. Jan Peter, sorry I misspoke about the brilliant find of Ole and Andreas in Asker. The round-up of the family is really helpful.
Here's a daughter Laura for Ole Aalsen and Henrikke Olsdatter, born 1845: link
Laura married Johan Gustav Johansen in 1871: link
Thanks Jane. I was just about to question the "3 children" in the death record of Henrikke. Since Anton was dead and the twins long gone, there was one missing... Laura! I'll update my previous post of the children. |
Edited by - jwiborg on 30/10/2016 02:28:07 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/10/2016 : 01:58:23
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Funny, kayryan and Jan Peter, your notes came in while I wrote the following. Busy place tonight!.
So Andreas registered with his local parish his intention to emigrate to Australia. From the transcribed passenger manifest of the Austral, posted by Anton, Andreas seems to be a passenger, not a crewman. The story about working as a crewman and jumping ship doesn't apply to him.
Laura's husband Johan Gustav Johansen birth record 1850: link |
Edited by - JaneC on 30/10/2016 02:14:12 |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 30/10/2016 : 02:13:58
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quote: Originally posted by jkmarler
He intended to go Andreas # 1 on left page under 1885: SAO, Asker prestekontor Kirkebøker, F/Fb/L0002: Ministerialbok nr. II 2, 1879-1921, s. 172 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061002010361
Nice! Destination for Andreas Olsen Høvigeie reads Australien. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 30/10/2016 : 02:23:36
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Next to the farm Høvigeie where Andreas and Ole were born, were the glassworks factory Høvik Glassverk. Pictured below is the factory, and the factoryworkers from 1902. Høvigeie farm must have been located just behind the factory. Christine's husband, blacksmith Bernt Andersen (53) might be on the picture. He is a blacksmith at this factory both in census-1900 and census-1910.
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Edited by - jwiborg on 30/10/2016 02:26:59 |
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kayryan
Starting member
Australia
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Posted - 30/10/2016 : 02:30:50
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What exactly is the document recently posted by jkmarler? As I don't speak Norwegian, I am just presuming it is the intention to go to Australia document ? The "Jumping Ship" story didn't really fit the twins, due to the devoutly religious life they ultimately lead here in Australia. This I'm sure, if the story had been true, would have been a punishable Criminal offence. Yet another piece of misinformation that sent us looking in the wrong places for information on their past. Also how do you post photos on this Forum? Thankyou again |
Edited by - kayryan on 30/10/2016 02:13:19 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/10/2016 : 02:52:19
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The last most recent is a transcription of the 1801 census which might contain the father does contain both parents of Ole Aalsen the twins' father.
The previous most recent to that is the "out migrating" parish record for Andreas Olsen. You were supposed to go to your pastor and get a copy of your records and inform of your leaving the parish. Not everybody did this but nice to see that he said he was going to Australia. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 30/10/2016 17:17:54 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 30/10/2016 : 08:41:00
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Ole Oulsen (Ole Aalsen) was born Aug 2 1807. His parents were Ouls Poulsen and Ingebor Amundsdatter, Sandager. Ole had a sister Ragnild born May 8 1799. 1st record on right page.
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Edited by - eibache on 03/11/2016 20:17:13 |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 30/10/2016 : 09:06:04
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quote: Høvigeie farm must have been located just behind the factory.
The cottage place "Sarbuvolden" is located to the right (east) of the Glasswork, and a little to the north is Nordre Høvig. See markers on this map. Pictures of Nordre Høvik can be seen here.
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Edited by - eibache on 30/10/2016 09:24:30 |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 30/10/2016 : 09:37:38
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A little more about your cousins - descendants of Ole Aalsen and Henrikke Olsdatter. They had a daughter Christine b 1850 who married Bernt Andersen, as Jan Peter posted. Christine and Bernt Andersen had a daughter Olga Emelie Andersen born 14 October 1884.
I didn't yet find a marriage record for Olga Emelie, so the following is not verified enough, but I wonder if this could be her, as mother to Ellen Kirstine Hermansson born 14 October 1905 in Sweden:link
This young family emigrated from Norway to USA in 1907. The emigration record says this Olga Emilie was born 14 October 1884- in the emigration record, Olga Emelie and daughter Ellen Kirstine are both given 14 October as birth day (which raises the question whether Olga's DOB is a mistake or not). Karl Henning Hermansson's occupation is "glasarb" and the family has been living at Baerum, so that's a good fit. link
A Carl H Hermanson b Sweden and wife Olga b Norway ca 1884 are living in Lowell, Massachusetts, USA in 1930 and 1940 census. Edit: Further research shows this is a different family.
Christine Olsdatter b 1850 and Bernt Andersen also had a son Harald Rudolf Andersen. This 1902 emigration record is probably Harald. He is going to Iowa: Harald Rudolf Andersen (Berntsen) age 24, unmarried, residence Høvik Occupation: glasarb link
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/10/2016 : 09:56:31
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Henrike Olsdatter was born Ferb 8 1815 see right page. Her parents were Ole Henriksen and Aase Olsdatter, Ingeborud. Ole Henriksen, Skarning and Aase Olsdatter, Grinie were married Jan 11 1812, see Jan 11 1812 see left page. Henrike had a sister Birthe Maria, born 1812 and a sister Marthe Olene born i 1817.
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/10/2016 : 10:09:45
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Aase Olsdatter, Grinie was baptized July 29 1781, see 8th record on right page. Her parents were Ole Engelbretsen and Marta Knudsdatter, Greenie ejet.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 30/10/2016 : 11:04:05
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quote: Originally posted by JaneC
Funny, kayryan and Jan Peter, your notes came in while I wrote the following. Busy place tonight!.
So Andreas registered with his local parish his intention to emigrate to Australia. From the transcribed passenger manifest of the Austral, posted by Anton, Andreas seems to be a passenger, not a crewman. The story about working as a crewman and jumping ship doesn't apply to him.
Laura's husband Johan Gustav Johansen birth record 1850: link
This must be Johan Gustav Johansen in census-1910. Seems to have re-married. Where are Laura and their sons Kristian Fridtjof Johansen born 22 Apr 1871 and Harald Olaf Johansen born 12 May 1873? |
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eibache
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/10/2016 : 11:11:21
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Ole Henrichsen, Scharning was born 1798, his parents was Henrich Hansen and Lisbeth Hansdatter. He had a sister Ragnild born in 1801.
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 30/10/2016 : 11:27:01
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quote: Originally posted by JaneC
Karl Henning Hermanson and Olga Emelie Andersen are living in Lowell, Massachusetts, USA in 1930 and 1940 census.
1930 Lowell, Middlesex, Massachusetts Carl H Hermanson, 42 b Sweden Olga Hermanson, 45 b Norway John H Hermanson 9 b Massachusetts Robert S Hermanson 5 b Massachusetts link
The following transcription has a different birth year for Carl, which must be a mistake.
1940 Lowell, Massachusetts Carl H Hermanson 51 born in Sweden Olga Hermanson 56 born in Norway Robert Hermanson 15 born in Massachusetts https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K4VR-F4C
This may not be the right Olga / Carl. On the register at Ellisisland.org, register of the landing of SS United States 6 April 1907 has a note by Olga's name saying "Died" and a date in the margin 15/4 07. The family was destined for Corning NY interesting since there is the Corning Glass company there. Karl's contact is his brother Fritz Bech at 118 Williams St Corning Ny. The notes for contact for Olga and Ellen says "discharge c/o Pastor Samuelson 22 Greenwich St N.Y."
Here are a Carl, Ella, Fritz in Steuben New York in 1910: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M5HB-HSR
Here in 1920: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MVSJ-DG7
The daughter Ellen Christine's 2nd marriage, mother is identified as Olga Anderson: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKN1-XMR2
Here in 1940: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K79K-HTC
Ellen Colegrove in SSDI: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKG7-8NP
Ellen Colegrove had at least one child a son named Richard Colegrove for whom she served as Den Mother when he was a cub scout in the late 1940's Corning, New York.
Ellen Beck married her first husband police officer William Morse on 30 Nov 1925 at Williamsport, Pennsylvania. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 30/10/2016 12:35:17 |
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