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jwiborg
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  01:57:02  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by JaneC

I know, right? That was a fun group effort by everyone! The obit was crucial. Jan Peter, sorry I misspoke about the brilliant find of Ole and Andreas in Asker. The round-up of the family is really helpful.

Here's a daughter Laura for Ole Aalsen and Henrikke Olsdatter, born 1845: link

Laura married Johan Gustav Johansen in 1871: link


Thanks Jane. I was just about to question the "3 children" in the death record of Henrikke. Since Anton was dead and the twins long gone, there was one missing... Laura! I'll update my previous post of the children.

Edited by - jwiborg on 30/10/2016 02:28:07
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JaneC
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  01:58:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Funny, kayryan and Jan Peter, your notes came in while I wrote the following. Busy place tonight!.

So Andreas registered with his local parish his intention to emigrate to Australia. From the transcribed passenger manifest of the Austral, posted by Anton, Andreas seems to be a passenger, not a crewman. The story about working as a crewman and jumping ship doesn't apply to him.

Laura's husband Johan Gustav Johansen birth record 1850:
link

Edited by - JaneC on 30/10/2016 02:14:12
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jwiborg
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  02:13:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by jkmarler

He intended to go Andreas # 1 on left page under 1885:
SAO, Asker prestekontor Kirkebøker, F/Fb/L0002: Ministerialbok nr. II 2, 1879-1921, s. 172
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061002010361


Nice! Destination for Andreas Olsen Høvigeie reads Australien.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  02:17:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole Aalsen's father with the unusual first name spelled in places as Ouel, or Aal. Here is a possible in the 1801 census:
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01058228003229
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jwiborg
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  02:23:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Next to the farm Høvigeie where Andreas and Ole were born, were the glassworks factory Høvik Glassverk.
Pictured below is the factory, and the factoryworkers from 1902. Høvigeie farm must have been located just behind the factory.
Christine's husband, blacksmith Bernt Andersen (53) might be on the picture. He is a blacksmith at this factory both in census-1900 and census-1910.



Edited by - jwiborg on 30/10/2016 02:26:59
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kayryan
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  02:30:50  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
What exactly is the document recently posted by jkmarler? As I don't speak Norwegian, I am just presuming it is the intention to go to Australia document ?
The "Jumping Ship" story didn't really fit the twins, due to the devoutly religious life they ultimately lead here in Australia. This I'm sure, if the story had been true, would have been a punishable Criminal offence. Yet another piece of misinformation that sent us looking in the wrong places for information on their past.
Also how do you post photos on this Forum?
Thankyou again

Edited by - kayryan on 30/10/2016 02:13:19
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jkmarler
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  02:52:19  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The last most recent is a transcription of the 1801 census which might contain the father does contain both parents of Ole Aalsen the twins' father.

The previous most recent to that is the "out migrating" parish record for Andreas Olsen. You were supposed to go to your pastor and get a copy of your records and inform of your leaving the parish. Not everybody did this but nice to see that he said he was going to Australia.

Edited by - jkmarler on 30/10/2016 17:17:54
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eibache
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  08:41:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole Oulsen (Ole Aalsen) was born Aug 2 1807.
His parents were Ouls Poulsen and Ingebor Amundsdatter, Sandager.
Ole had a sister Ragnild born May 8 1799. 1st record on right page.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 03/11/2016 20:17:13
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eibache
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  09:06:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Høvigeie farm must have been located just behind the factory.

The cottage place "Sarbuvolden" is located to the right (east) of the Glasswork, and a little to the north is Nordre Høvig. See markers on this map.
Pictures of Nordre Høvik can be seen here.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 30/10/2016 09:24:30
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JaneC
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  09:37:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A little more about your cousins - descendants of Ole Aalsen and Henrikke Olsdatter. They had a daughter Christine b 1850 who married Bernt Andersen, as Jan Peter posted. Christine and Bernt Andersen had a daughter Olga Emelie Andersen born 14 October 1884.

I didn't yet find a marriage record for Olga Emelie, so the following is not verified enough, but I wonder if this could be her, as mother to Ellen Kirstine Hermansson born 14 October 1905 in Sweden:link


This young family emigrated from Norway to USA in 1907. The emigration record says this Olga Emilie was born 14 October 1884- in the emigration record, Olga Emelie and daughter Ellen Kirstine are both given 14 October as birth day (which raises the question whether Olga's DOB is a mistake or not). Karl Henning Hermansson's occupation is "glasarb" and the family has been living at Baerum, so that's a good fit.
link

A Carl H Hermanson b Sweden and wife Olga b Norway ca 1884 are living in Lowell, Massachusetts, USA in 1930 and 1940 census. Edit: Further research shows this is a different family.

Christine Olsdatter b 1850 and Bernt Andersen also had a son Harald Rudolf Andersen. This 1902 emigration record is probably Harald. He is going to Iowa:
Harald Rudolf Andersen (Berntsen)
age 24, unmarried, residence Høvik
Occupation: glasarb
link

Edited by - JaneC on 30/10/2016 11:40:13
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eibache
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  09:56:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Henrike Olsdatter was born Ferb 8 1815 see right page.
Her parents were Ole Henriksen and Aase Olsdatter, Ingeborud.
Ole Henriksen, Skarning and Aase Olsdatter, Grinie were married Jan 11 1812, see Jan 11 1812 see left page.
Henrike had a sister Birthe Maria, born 1812 and a sister Marthe Olene born i 1817.


Einar

Edited by - eibache on 03/11/2016 20:19:12
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eibache
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  10:09:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Aase Olsdatter, Grinie was baptized July 29 1781, see 8th record on right page.
Her parents were Ole Engelbretsen and Marta Knudsdatter, Greenie ejet.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 30/10/2016 10:10:18
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jwiborg
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  11:04:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JaneC

Funny, kayryan and Jan Peter, your notes came in while I wrote the following. Busy place tonight!.

So Andreas registered with his local parish his intention to emigrate to Australia. From the transcribed passenger manifest of the Austral, posted by Anton, Andreas seems to be a passenger, not a crewman. The story about working as a crewman and jumping ship doesn't apply to him.

Laura's husband Johan Gustav Johansen birth record 1850:
link

This must be Johan Gustav Johansen in census-1910. Seems to have re-married.
Where are Laura and their sons Kristian Fridtjof Johansen born 22 Apr 1871 and Harald Olaf Johansen born 12 May 1873?
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eibache
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  11:11:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ole Henrichsen, Scharning was born 1798, his parents was Henrich Hansen and Lisbeth Hansdatter.
He had a sister Ragnild born in 1801.

Einar
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jkmarler
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  11:27:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by JaneC

Karl Henning Hermanson and Olga Emelie Andersen are living in Lowell, Massachusetts, USA in 1930 and 1940 census.

1930
Lowell, Middlesex, Massachusetts
Carl H Hermanson, 42 b Sweden
Olga Hermanson, 45 b Norway
John H Hermanson 9 b Massachusetts
Robert S Hermanson 5 b Massachusetts
link

The following transcription has a different birth year for Carl, which must be a mistake.

1940
Lowell, Massachusetts
Carl H Hermanson 51 born in Sweden
Olga Hermanson 56 born in Norway
Robert Hermanson 15 born in Massachusetts
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K4VR-F4C





This may not be the right Olga / Carl. On the register at Ellisisland.org, register of the landing of SS United States 6 April 1907 has a note by Olga's name saying "Died" and a date in the margin 15/4 07. The family was destined for Corning NY interesting since there is the Corning Glass company there. Karl's contact is his brother Fritz Bech at 118 Williams St Corning Ny. The notes for contact for Olga and Ellen says "discharge c/o Pastor Samuelson 22 Greenwich St N.Y."

Here are a Carl, Ella, Fritz in Steuben New York in 1910:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M5HB-HSR

Here in 1920:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MVSJ-DG7

The daughter Ellen Christine's 2nd marriage, mother is identified as Olga Anderson:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QKN1-XMR2

Here in 1940:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K79K-HTC

Ellen Colegrove in SSDI:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JKG7-8NP

Ellen Colegrove had at least one child a son named Richard Colegrove for whom she served as Den Mother when he was a cub scout in the late 1940's Corning, New York.

Ellen Beck married her first husband police officer William Morse on 30 Nov 1925 at Williamsport, Pennsylvania.

Edited by - jkmarler on 30/10/2016 12:35:17
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