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JaneC
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  11:33:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Coming back having found birth record for John Herbert Hermanson on Family Search - born 1921 in Boston, Massachusetts, and his mother was Olga Petersen.

So the family in Lowell, Massachusetts is a different family.

Edited by - JaneC on 30/10/2016 11:35:28
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JaneC
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  11:58:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg

quote:
Originally posted by JaneC


Laura's husband Johan Gustav Johansen birth record 1850:
link

This must be Johan Gustav Johansen in census-1910. Seems to have re-married.
Where are Laura and their sons Kristian Fridtjof Johansen born 22 Apr 1871 and Harald Olaf Johansen born 12 May 1873?


Laura Olsdatter b 1845, the oldest sister of John Olsen in Australia, must have died before the 1875 census. Her husband Johan Johansen is listed as a widower and living with his parents and brother:
1875
Residence: Presterudbraaten under Presterud under Nadderud
Asker, Akerhus
link


Looks like Harald Olaf emigrated from Oslo to New York 1907
Harald Olaf Johans. born 05.12.1873 (12 May)
Residence: Ø Bærum
Occupation, glaspuster.
Married. Traveling with wife Vendela Marie b 11.04.1878 (11 April)
and son Ivar Johan b 19 April 1896
link

A visit to Norway 1912 link

Now I see on the previous page Jackie found Carl Henning Hermanson Beck (husband of Olga Emelie) in Corning, Steuben, New York, so that's a possible location for Harald.

Edited by - JaneC on 30/10/2016 13:16:22
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jkmarler
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  13:17:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Harold Rudolph Anderson has two possibles. In 1905 in Iowa:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2S8Z-ST6

And in Corning New York in 1910:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M5HB-T76

In WWI draft registration cards, occupation as glass blower and nearest relative is Anthony Anderson:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KXBD-DTV

In 1920 as a widower:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MVSJ-FKJ

In 1930 as a widower:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4YS-NDD

In 1940:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K79K-DPK

Florence Anderson daughter of Harold Anderson married Louis Larson on 11 April 1925 in Corning. Louis was employed as a "gaffer" at Corning Glass Works.

I echo Jane's remark below about the family's continued work with glass. In a very interesting article in the Evening Leader published in Corning N.Y, on Wed 26 May 1926 pg 1 col 6 the whereabouts of Harold Anderson's daughters are pretty well covered:
"LEAVES FOR NEW HOME
Miss Lillian Anderson of New York City, has left for Buffalo after spending two weeks here as the guest of Mrs. Louis Larson and Mrs. Anton Anderson. Miss Anderson will visit Mrs. Walter Larson of Buffalo, formerly Miss Helen Anderson, of this city. She will be accompanied to Buffalo by Mrs. Louis Larson, who will then go to Huntington, West Va. where she will make her new home. Mr. Larson is located in Huntington, where he accepted a position."

West Virginia, including Huntington, is also a center for manufacture of art and service glass in U.S.

Here is the address for the Old Fulton site which Jane mentioned and I have been reporting from. You might enjoy looking up these articles since they are in English. Must warn you though the site is very particular that you have the most up-to-date viewer:
http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html

While I'm on it the Australian newspaper site is called the Trove and is searchable directly at http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/
and by elephind.com

Edited by - jkmarler on 30/10/2016 14:37:11
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jkmarler
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  13:37:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Anton Andersen's WWI draft reg card in Steuben county, New York:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KXBD-DTD

In FAG:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QK1X-LR5S

At the 101st anniversary celebration (in December of 1952) of the Corning Glass Works these employees received pins marking their entry into the 45 year category:
Anton Anderson, Harold R Anderson, Carl H. Beck,...

Edited by - jkmarler on 30/10/2016 13:51:47
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jwiborg
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  13:44:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by JaneC
Laura Olsdatter b 1845, the oldest sister of John Olsen in Australia, must have died before the 1875 census.
You're right. Laura Olsdatter died 23 Apr 1874 from pneumonia.
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JaneC
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  13:54:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Sad about Laura.

Anton Andersen in Steuben county, New York states on WWI draft card a birth date of 02 April 1880 (see Jackie post above).

So to be clear, this shows he is Anton Andersen, son of Christine Olsdatter b 1850 and Bernt Andersen (Christine being a sister of John Olsen in Australia). Jan Peter posted the birth of their Anton 02 April 1880. Here again: link

Old Fulton Postcards website with historical newspapers has an article about "50-year Vets" that mentions Anton Anderson and Harold Anderson. The PDF doesn't open for me at the moment.

It seems, kayryan, that glass work is a significant theme in your extended family history! picture

You asked how to post a picture. I think Jan Petrr uses tinypics website. Load an image there, and you can then post that URL here, which will show up as an image.

Edited by - JaneC on 30/10/2016 14:30:48
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kayryan
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  14:32:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Poor Laura didn't even make it to 30. Harsh times back then. The spelling in the records for Christine vary to Kirstine & Kristine. On familysearch.com there seem to be 2 more babies born to a Kristine. One Gunda Berntsen 21/3/1873 & Ole Berntsen 1/9/1874. I guess being close to the Glass factory it must have been in their blood to work with glass. Such a lot of great information. I started this search knowing very little about Ole. He has become a bit more real now with all this information.

Edited by - kayryan on 31/10/2016 00:08:08
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eibache
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  14:51:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Pictures from Høvik Glasswork, link..

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JaneC
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  14:52:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Good finds.

1875
Residence: Stabækbraaten
Asker, Akershus
Bernt Andersen b 1849 Ø Bærum
Kristine Olsdatter b 1850
Gunda b 1873
Ole b 1875
link

Here again, at a section of the same farm, is Andreas Olsen b 1857 (twin brother who went to Australia)
link

See also other family records at Stabæk (or sub-farms of it) such as Ingeborg Oline birth 1848 and Christine birth 1850 (sisters to Ole/John Olsen).

A discussion here, about Gunda and her marriage: link

Discussion mentions Gunda Andersen b in 1873 at Stabækbraaten in Vestre Bærum, father smed Bernt Andersen. Says she married 20 March 1892 in Bryn church to Robert Paul Richard Scholz, occupation blikkenslager, who was born in Berlin. link to marriage

Probably the son in 1900
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01065522090807

Gunda in 1900 in Stavanger
link

Gunda in Bergen in 1922 link

Edited by - JaneC on 30/10/2016 16:39:26
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AntonH
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  16:20:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow I took a few hours off, came back and was two pages behind.

Anyway here is Harald Olaf and family arriving in Boston tho, not New York. They are traveling to father Mr. John Johansen, Corning New York.

Harald Johansen
in the Massachusetts, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1820-1963
Name: Harald Johansen
Gender: Male
Age: 34
Nationality: Norwegian
Birth Date: abt 1873
Birth Place: Havik, Norway
Departure Place: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 10 Oct 1907
Arrival Place: Boston, Massachusetts, USA
Last Residence: Norway
Friend: Harold Berndsen
Ship: Ivernia

Edited by - AntonH on 30/10/2016 16:27:10
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jwiborg
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  16:41:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Our belowed father, father-in-law, grandfather and g.grandfather
Bernt Andersen
died quietly today, 68 y.o.
Bergen, January 17th, 1918
Children, children-in-law, grandchildren
Gunda Scholz, Paul Scholz
Ole Berntsen
The Funeral starts at home, "Fjeldly", Damsgaard, friday January 25th at 12 o'clock

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JaneC
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  16:43:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Nice, Anton and Jan Peter!

Kayryan, in the birth record for John Olsen's daughter Rose in 1894, she is listed as Rose H L Olsen, is that right? I am curious if the H stands for Henrikke.

Gunda's daughter Olga Florence Scholz on the link. (Gunda b 1873 was daughter of Christine Olsdatter b 1850 - Christine was John Olsen's sister.)
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/sok/person?s=olga+florence+scholz

Husband of Olga Florence Scholz, Nils Christian Nærø, in Bergen 1934
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/nn-no/gen/vis/108/pc00000000466026

Edited by - JaneC on 30/10/2016 16:58:16
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AntonH
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  16:51:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kayryan, if you have a subscription to Ancesttry.com you might find the original document interesting.

Vendela Johansen
in the U.S., Consular Registration Certificates, 1907-1918
Name: Vendela Johansen
Birth Date: 11 Apr 1878
Birth Place: Havik
Spouse: Harald Olaf Johansen

Here is the family in the 1925 New York Census

Vendla Johnson
in the New York, State Census, 1925
Name: Vendla Johnson
Birth Date: abt 1878
Birth Place: Norway
Age: 47
Gender: Female
Residence Place: Corning, Steuben
Relationship: Wife
Color or Race: White
Number of Years in US: 18
Assembly District: 01
House Number: 67
Line Number: 18
Page Number: 22
Household Members:
Name Age
Harold O Johnson 52
Vendla Johnson 47
Iver Johnson 29

By 1930 Ivar was married with one child and the whole family was living in Chicago. Only post part here.

Harold O Johnson
in the 1930 United States Federal Census
Name: Harold O Johnson
Birth Year: abt 1874
Gender: Male
Race: White
Birthplace: Norway
Marital Status: Married
Relation to Head of House: Father
Home in 1930: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
Occupation: Glass Blower
Industry: neon Signs manufacture

Edited by - AntonH on 30/10/2016 17:04:23
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AntonH
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  17:24:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Going back to page 3 to fill in some information posted by Jane.

Here is the arrival of Carl Hermansson, wife Olga and daughter Ellen in 1907. Going to Corning New York to brother Mr. Fritz Beck, Corning, New York.

Carl Hermansen
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Carl Hermansen
Arrival Date: 17 Apr 1907
Birth Date: abt 1880
Birth Location Other: boraas
Age: 27
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Christiania
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: United States
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jwiborg
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Posted - 30/10/2016 :  17:36:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Robert Paul Richard Scholtz (27 Jul 1869 - 02 Jan 1956) were a factory owner- and founder, and started among others "Stavanger Bliktrykkeri og Maskinværksted" in 1905. They made tincans.
Paul & Gunda had 10 children:
1 Valeska Scholz 1892 Sandviken Christiania
2 Harald Alexander Scholz 31.01.1894 Sandviken Christiania. Death: 25 Jan 1981
3 Gyda Scholz 1896 Sandviken Christiania
4 Frieda Bergliot Scholz 28.07.1897 Stavanger
5 Solveig Hjørdis Scholz 26.07.1899 Stavanger
6 Esther Louise Scholz 06.12.1901 Stavanger
7 Frithjof Paul Scholz 30.08.1903 Stavanger (Date from census-1922.) I think correct date is 30.10.1903
8 Olga Florence Scholz 28.07.1905 Stavanger
9 Walther Gerhard Scholz 27.08.1908 Stavanger
10 Astrid Johanne Scholz 30.05.1910 Stavanger

Fridtjof Paul Scholz 30 Oct 1903 - 22 June 1978
Martha Scholz (nee Wietfeldt) 08 Mar 1904 - 26 Feb 1991
Buried at Rolvsøy, Fredrikstad.
Gunda died in 1937 (buried june 23rd). The family have a familygraveyard in Bergen.




Tincan from Stavanger Bliktrykkeri og Maskinværksted.


Edited by - jwiborg on 30/10/2016 21:25:28
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