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nilsanderson
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 Posted - 22/01/2017 : 13:26:17
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my father born 1910 my mother barbara mabel anderson
marriage 1942 ( annulled )
married 1946 wife not known
merchant navy
2 children
his father ludwig anderson
any half siblings out there. or relations with knowledge
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jkmarler
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jwiborg
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Posted - 22/01/2017 : 21:45:05
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/01/2017 : 00:20:08
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Based on the 1910 Norwegian Census found by Jackie, this may be one of the children.
Astrid Elfrida Anderson
in the U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project)
Name: Astrid Elfrida Anderson
Birth Date: 13 Jul 1903
Birth Place: Denmark
Age at event: 34
Court District: Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa
Date of Action: 30 Sep 1937
Here is an Astrid Andersen arrival. Nearest relative is Anders Andersen Oslo. Destination is Chicago.
Astrid Andersen
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Astrid Andersen
Arrival Date: 3 Feb 1925
Birth Date: abt 1904
Birth Location: Denmark
Birth Location Other: Copenhagen
Age: 21
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Oslo, Norway
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Stavangerfjord
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000613132 |
Edited by - AntonH on 23/01/2017 00:59:46 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/01/2017 : 04:09:01
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Would this be the marriage of your father with Barbara.
Arthur N Anderson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Arthur N Anderson
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1942
Registration district: Hendon
Inferred County: Middlesex
Spouse: Barbara Wilkinson
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 1184c |
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nilsanderson
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Posted - 23/01/2017 : 13:07:18
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quote:
Originally posted by jwiborg
Are you looking for half siblings of yourself?
Yes.I Believe my father had children with his second wife.,
and am looking for any info on them and their families.
My father told his wife about me. He called me by my second name Jimmy and I know she travelled with him
to France and Sicily, They knew each other since they were 17 years old. They married In February 1946 or1947 |
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nilsanderson
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Posted - 23/01/2017 : 13:24:17
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Originally posted by jkmarler
Here is a possible for Nils' parents, including two siblings. 1910 Norwegian census:
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/ft/person/pf01036392262638
Thank you for your interest,
Not sure about this as my father was 32 yrs when he married my mother in 1942.given name on the marriage and my birth
certificate
Nils Alfred Anderson, |
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nilsanderson
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Posted - 23/01/2017 : 13:29:30
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
Based on the 1910 Norwegian Census found by Jackie, this may be one of the children.
Astrid Elfrida Anderson
in the U.S. Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project)
Name: Astrid Elfrida Anderson
Birth Date: 13 Jul 1903
Birth Place: Denmark
Age at event: 34
Court District: Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa
Date of Action: 30 Sep 1937
Here is an Astrid Andersen arrival. Nearest relative is Anders Andersen Oslo. Destination is Chicago.
Astrid Andersen
in the New York, Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Astrid Andersen
Arrival Date: 3 Feb 1925
Birth Date: abt 1904
Birth Location: Denmark
Birth Location Other: Copenhagen
Age: 21
Gender: Female
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Oslo, Norway
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Stavangerfjord
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000613132
Thank you for your interest.
But the dates do not seem to match with the info I have
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nilsanderson
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Posted - 23/01/2017 : 13:33:52
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[quote]Originally posted by lyndal40
Would this be the marriage of your father with Barbara.
Arthur N Anderson
in the England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1916-2005
Name: Arthur N Anderson
Date of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec 1942
Registration district: Hendon
Inferred County: Middlesex
Spouse: Barbara Wilkinson
Volume Number: 3a
Page Number: 1184c
Again thanks for the info but the names do not match the
the Certificate of Marriage that i have
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/01/2017 : 14:13:16
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You said:
"Thank you for your interest.
But the dates do not seem to match with the info I have."
What information do you have about your father's siblings?
Re the 1910 census link posted, the father on your father's wedding certificate (I speculate) was Ludvig / Ludwig Andersen, the father in the 1910 census was named Ludvig Andersen, that's the connection, as far as it goes. Nils may not have been born by the time of the census in Norway in 1910 and so may not be searchable himself. However I looked through the 1910 / 1911 male baptisms in Grønland parish where this family lived in the 1910 census and didn't find his.
As far as you know your father continued to live in UK?
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jkmarler
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Posted - 23/01/2017 : 15:09:12
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At Sjohistorie.no there is this Nils Andreassen
Nils Andreassen
Informasjonen om registrerte krigsseilere er ikke nødvendigvis fullstendig. Eksempelvis vil mønstringer og utmerkelser for enkelte sjøfolk bli registrert senere, ettersom nye kilder blir gjennomgått.
Født1mars1909 (born) 1 March 1909
Kjønn Mann
Nasjonalitet Norge
Bosted Rødsveien 2, Framnes pr. Sandefjord
Relasjon til fylke Vestfold
Flåtetilhørighet Norsk handelsflåte i nøytral fart 1939-1940
Uteflåten 1940-1945
Utenlandsk alliert marine 1939-1945
Utenlandsk handelsflåte 1939-1945
Har stillinger Matros (sailor)
I think this says that the registration of "war" sailors is not complete. This fellow stayed in England during the war and there are 7 mustering in records for him also at the site. It also says he went to New Zealand after the war.
This guy's baptism is #27 on the male top half of page, father is 2nd Styrmand Hans Andreasen:
SAKO, Sandefjord kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0005: Parish register (official) no. 5, 1906-1915, p. 30
Quick link: https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20051014030789
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nilsanderson
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Posted - 23/01/2017 : 17:08:04
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quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler
You said:
"Thank you for your interest.
But the dates do not seem to match with the info I have."
What information do you have about your father's siblings?
Re the 1910 census link posted, the father on your father's wedding certificate (I speculate) was Ludvig / Ludwig Andersen, the father in the 1910 census was named Ludvig Andersen, that's the connection, as far as it goes. Nils may not have been born by the time of the census in Norway in 1910 and so may not be searchable himself. However I looked through the 1910 / 1911 male baptisms in Grønland parish where this family lived in the 1910 census and didn't find his.
As far as you know your father continued to live in UK?
Hi
AS far as I know he left after the war and returned to Norway
but continued as a merchant seaman He Married in February 1946 or 1947
thanks
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Kåarto
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Posted - 23/01/2017 : 18:40:07
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Some supplementary information;
"Informasjonen om registrerte krigsseilere er ikke nødvendigvis..................."Information on the registration of war sailors is not necessarily correct, for example patterning and awards of some sailors are recorded later as new sources are reviewed.
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/01/2017 : 22:16:47
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Not an easy task with such limited information. No Nils Andersen born 1910 with a father named Ludwig in the 1910 Norwegian Census.
A long shot candidate born in 1909
A male born in 1909 having Nils in his name and a father with Ludvig in his name
Yngvar Nils Andreassen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Yngvar Nils Andreassen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 9 sep 1909
Baptism Date: 31 okt 1909 (31 Oct 1909)
Baptism Place: Sarpsborg, Østfold, Norway
Father's Age: 1886
Mother's Age: 1889
Father: Nils Ludvig Andreassen
Mother: Hansine Petra Andersen
FHL Film Number: 1259715
Reference ID: 3-124-135
Father is listed as a seaman in the original baptism record
https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/kb20060320030158
The family in the 1910 Norwegian Census. Last three at bottom of the page.
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1910&knr=0102&kenr=007a&bnr=0010&lnr=04
You do not have a lot of candidates to chose from. Ludvig is more common in Norway than is the Ludwig version. And Andreassen could easily become Anderson in an English speaking country.
Young Yngvar emigrated in 1924 at age 14. Document says he is going to New York Til Sine Forældre (to his parents)
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000000560580
One arrival document shows him with a line drawn through his name and data but this document does not have the line. The document also says that he is living with his grandmother Maria Andersen in Sarpsborg. It also states that he is going to his mother Petra Olsen, 465 53rd St Brooklyn New York. So did his parents divorce?
Name: Yngvar Nils Anderson
Arrival Date: 12 Aug 1924
Birth Date: abt 1910
Birth Location: Nrw
Birth Location Other: sarpsborg
Age: 14
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/ Nationality: Scandinavian
Port of Departure: Gothenburg
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Stockholm
Looks like his mother travelled to New York in 1915 to her husband and who is a sailor.
https://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/en-gb/gen/vis/8/pe00000001148081
Probably Petra Hansine before her marriage in 1900 Norwegian Census
http://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1900&knr=0102&kenr=004&bnr=0005&lnr=01 |
Edited by - AntonH on 25/01/2017 00:41:03 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 24/01/2017 : 00:29:34
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This is probably the marriage of Ludvig and Petrine, in 1909 before their Yngvere Nils was born.
Nils Ludvig Andreasen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Nils Ludvig Andreasen
Gender: Male
Age: 23
Birth Date: 1886
Marriage Date: 16 mai 1909 (16 May 1909)
Marriage Place: Sarpsborg, Østfold, Norway
Father: Andreas Nilsen
Spouse: Hansine Petra Andersen
FHL Film Number: 1259715
Reference ID: item 3 p 257 19
As was stated in the baptism of Yngvere Nils, the father was a seaman. There are many records on Ancestry.com that are probably of him. Here is one of them.
Ludvig Andreasen
in the New York State, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1917-1965
Name: Ludvig Andreasen
Arrival Age: 39
Birth Date: abt 1886
Arrival Date: 19 Apr 1925
Arrival Place: New York, New York, USA
Ship Name: Anna
Port: New York |
Edited by - AntonH on 24/01/2017 00:31:51 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 25/01/2017 : 02:04:34
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Petra Anderson (wife of Nils Ludvig Andreassen) was in 1920 living with her young daughter Andrea in Connecticut. She is now a widow so Nils Ludvig has died at some point and there is no sign of Yngvar Nils Anderson.
Petra Anderson
in the 1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Petra Anderson
Age: 20
[30]
Birth Year: abt 1900
[abt 1890]
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1920: Norwalk Ward 5, Fairfield, Connecticut
Street: Rowayton Avenue
Race: White
Gender: Female
Immigration Year: 1915
Relation to Head of House: Cook
Marital Status: Widowed
[Widow]
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: Norwegian
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Cook
Industry: Private Family
Employment Field: Wage or Salary
Naturalization Status: Alien
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: No
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Charles Hackley 83
Emma K Hackley 78
Mary F Hackley 50
Petra Anderson 20
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Andrea Anderson 6 |
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