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Torgy1966
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Canada
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 Posted - 02/02/2017 : 22:15:26
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| My grandfather was born in Norway and came to Canada as a child. He served in the Great War but his history prior to immigration is lost. Any suggesting or help on a genealogy starting point? |
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Kċarto
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
5861 Posts |
Posted - 02/02/2017 : 22:48:08
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Worth a try
Oscar Emanuel Torgersen born 1898 in Oslo. Parents; Widow Gina Caroline Torgersen link
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Edited by - Kċarto on 02/02/2017 22:51:42 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 02/02/2017 : 23:21:59
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Maybe you could provide a little more information on your Oskar such as is he found in in a census in Canada or where did he live in Canada.
As Kċre found there are not a lot of Oacar or Oskar Torgersens in Norway around 1900 with a birth year of around 1899. Here is a birth record for one of the sisters of the Oscar that Kċre found. This gives both the mothers maiden name and the name of the father.
Dagny Elfrida Karola Torgersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Dagny Elfrida Karola Torgersen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 22 apr 1891
Baptism Date: 14 jun 1891
Baptism Place: Oslo, Oslo, Norway
Father: Karl Edvin Torgersen
Mother: Gina Karoline Gulbrandsen
FHL Film Number: 1282970
Reference ID: Bk 1 Pg 80 |
Edited by - AntonH on 02/02/2017 23:37:14 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Torgy1966
New on board
Canada
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Posted - 04/02/2017 : 02:05:41
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Thank you very much for the info everyone! I know that my grandfather was buried in Chelan Saskatchewan so I believe the middle name Melvin is correct and the birth year of 1898. My oldest uncle told me that some of his fathers siblings were born in Norway and others were born in the US. I understand there were at least four brothers and maybe two sisters and Alfred was one of them. It is possible I suppose that the military records showing a birth date of 1896 might have been an attempt to volunteer for service at a younger age if it were the same man, although the middle name was incorrect as well.
The surname Torgersen is possibly the same family as I have some relatives in WIsconsin who spell their name with an EN
..I think the older siblings came over to the US first, then back to Norway and finally some to Canada, but not sure if it was from the US or directly from Norway. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2017 : 02:41:52
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There are several Oscar Torgerson born in Wisconsin. This is the one from Lacrosse that mostly closely fits the Oscar Melvin Torgerson who ended up in Chelan Saskatchewan. Month is correct year is off and no children born in Norway?
Oscar Torgerson
in the 1900 United States Federal Census
Name: Oscar Torgerson
Age: 4
Birth Date: Oct 1895
Birthplace: Wisconsin
Home in 1900: Hamilton, La Crosse, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Son
Marital Status: Single
Father's name: Anton Torgerson
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's name: Hannah M Torgerson
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Anton Torgerson 40
Hannah M Torgerson 36
John Torgerson 12
Alfred Torgerson 9
Elmer Torgerson 7
Oscar Torgerson 4
Manley Torgerson 2
Find-A-Grave for father Anton Torgerson
https://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GRid=108546322&ref=acom
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Edited by - AntonH on 04/02/2017 17:26:03 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2017 : 23:18:43
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Here is an Oscar Torgerson in the 1921 Canadian Census living in Hazel Dell Sk. I wonder if you can say if this is your relative or not. He arrived in Canada in 1908. He is listed a being single so would have had to have been married in Canada. He is living with the family of Christian and Mathilda Moe.
Oscar Torgerson
in the 1921 Census of Canada
Name: Oscar Torgerson
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Single
Age: 23
Birth Year: abt 1898
Birth Place: USA
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father Birth Place: Norway
Mother Birth Place: Norway
Year of Immigration: 1908
Racial or Tribal Origin: Norwegian
Province or Territory: Saskatchewan
District: Mackenzie
District Number: 219
Sub-District Number: 54
City, Town or Village: Township 36 Range 7 W2 2nd
Section Number: 10
Township Number: 36
Range Number: 7
Meridian Number: W2
Municipality: Hazel Dell
Occupation: Farmer
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Oscar Torgerson 23
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Edited by - AntonH on 04/02/2017 23:23:02 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2017 : 23:26:47
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There seems to be a connection between the children of Anton and Hannah M Torgerson of La Crosse and Christian Moe. Perhaps after Anton died Hannah Mathilda married Christian Moe. and this is that blended family in the 1905 Wisconsin Census.
Christian I Moe
in the Wisconsin, State Censuses, 1895 and 1905
Name: Christian I Moe
Census Date: 1 Jun 1905
Residence County: La Crosse
Residence State: Wisconsin
Locality: Farmington
Birth Location: Norway
Marital Status: Married
Gender: Male
Estimated birth year: abt 1854
Race: White
Relation: Husband
Spouse's Name: Matilda Moe
LINE: 41
Roll: CSUSAWI1905_15
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Christian I Moe 51
Matilda Moe 38
Johnie Torgeson 17
Alfred Torgeson 14
Emil Torgeson 12
Oscar Torgeson 9
Manley Torgeson 7 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2017 : 23:39:47
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This is the 1921 Canadian Census for Christian and Mathilda Moe and two children. Came to Canada same year as Oscar Torgerson, Maybe together? Children born in Canada.
Christian Moe
in the 1921 Census of Canada
Name: Christian Moe
Gender: Male
Marital Status: Married
Age: 67
Birth Year: abt 1854
Birth Place: Norway
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father Birth Place: Norway
Mother's name: Mathilda Moe
Mother Birth Place: Norway
Year of Immigration: 1908
Racial or Tribal Origin: Norwegian
Province or Territory: Saskatchewan
District: Mackenzie
District Number: 219
Sub-District Number: 54
City, Town or Village: Township 36 Range 7 W2 2nd
Section Number: 10
Township Number: 36
Range Number: 7
Meridian Number: W2
Municipality: Hazel Dell
Occupation: Farmer
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Christian Moe 67
Mathilda Moe 53
Elizabeth Moe 11
Joseph Moe 8 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 04/02/2017 : 23:44:27
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| It would appear that the ones that came from Norway are the parents Anton Torgerson and his wife Hannah Mathilda and her second husband Christian. Question now is from where in Norway. |
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2017 : 03:27:45
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Anton Torgersen married Hannah Larsen
1882 in LaCrosse county, Wisconsin
link
Anton Torgersen died 1903 LaCrosse link |
Edited by - JaneC on 05/02/2017 03:34:31 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2017 : 04:03:38
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Great job on the marriage Jane. So here is the groom and also the bride. So we now know her maiden name.
Hannah M Larson
in the Wisconsin, Marriage Index, 1820-1907
Name: Hannah M Larson
Marriage Date: 30 Sep 1882
Marriage Place: La Crosse, Wisconsin, USA
Volume: 03
Page: 0147
A family tree gives her parents names as
Lars Larsen and Nicoline Hansdatter.
That remains to be proved. |
Edited by - AntonH on 05/02/2017 04:05:39 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2017 : 04:12:02
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This is likely the family that appears in the family tree, however I do not see a Hannah Mathilda born abt 1864. Tilda would seem to be too young. Unless her age is off in the census by four years or more.
Lars Larson
in the 1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Lars Larson
Age: 42
Birth Year: abt 1838
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Hamilton, La Crosse, Wisconsin
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Married
Spouse's Name: Nichelene Larson
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Farmer
Household Members:
Name Age
Lars Larson 42
Nichelene Larson 39
Bent Larson 19
Tilda Larson 12
Robert Larson 6
Lewis Larson 4
Menia Larson 2
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JaneC
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
3020 Posts |
Posted - 05/02/2017 : 15:01:45
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Nice.
The info on this tree has Hannah Mathilde as a first-born of Nicoline, father unknown
http://www.legacyfamilytree.ca/Anderson/972.htm
Tree says this Oscar married Stella Panasiuk. The tree includes some children for them. |
Edited by - JaneC on 05/02/2017 16:00:10 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Oskar Torgerson b. 1899 Oslo
