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lynn peterson432
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 Posted - 09/01/2018 : 17:39:27
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| Looking for the parents of Maren Trulsdatter born April 9 1802 married Ole Nielsen Decrmber 8 !820 Norderhov Buskerud she was my 4th great Grand mother Ole Nielsen and maren Truldatter children were Maria born Jan 22 1821 Peter born Sept 17n 1824 Halvor born Apr 9 1827 Sophia born may 15 1836 Hans Jolhan born aug 1 1841 Norderhov Buskerud |
Edited by - lynn peterson432 on 09/01/2018 20:05:41 |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 09/01/2018 : 21:01:21
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Likely Truls Carlsen & Siri Christophersdr.
Their daughter Maren was christened in Norderhov on 02 May 1802.
Confirmation on 05 Oct 1817: #29 Maren Trulsdatter Trøgstad-Eie 15 ½. Father: Truls Carlsen Trøgstad-Eie. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 09/01/2018 : 21:29:20
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In 1801 Truls and Siri were living at Qvernbergsunds Ødegaard along with two children Kjerstina and Christopher. . A lot of people in this residential area so you must scroll way down the list.
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lynn peterson432
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Posted - 09/01/2018 : 21:31:58
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| the cementary records at old east paint creek cemetary allamakee co Iowa give the birth date as apr 9 1802 she took the farm name monserud her son peder Monserud is also buried there born sept 17 1824 on thje cementary records on find a grave her name is Mare Monserud |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 09/01/2018 : 22:06:35
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May 2nd. Norderhoug. Truls Carlsen Trøgstad-Eie og Siri Christophersdr. Mari
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AntonH
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Posted - 09/01/2018 : 23:02:22
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You can also search "All Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927" in Acestry.com. Put in name mar*, birth year 1802 plus/minus 2 and father named Truls as search parameters. Truls is an usual enough name that you only get one response.
Mari Trulsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Mari Trulsen
[Mari Carlsen]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 2 mai 1802 (2 May 1802)
Baptism Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Father: Truls Carlsen
Mother: Siri Christophersdr
FHL Film Number: 124052
Other children are
Kjerstina bap 26 Dec 1794
Christopher bap 4 Dec 1796
Karl bap 26 Dec 1798
Carl bap 26 Dec 1804
Marta bap 21 Dec 1806 |
Edited by - AntonH on 09/01/2018 23:09:18 |
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lynn peterson432
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Posted - 09/01/2018 : 23:29:25
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| on family tree family search . org maren trulsdatter born april 9 1802 christen april 14 1802 nordehov buskerrud no parents mention |
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AntonH
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Posted - 09/01/2018 : 23:30:03
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There is a seventh child named Halvor baptized March 17, 1811 that is likely from the same family even tho the mothers name is listed as Sigrid Chistophersdatter and not Siri as the father is Truls Carlsen and they are living at Trogstad although one must always consider the option that the first wife named Siri died and was replaced with a Sigrid with the same last name.
Halvor Trulsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927Name: Halvor Trulsen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 17 mar 1811
Baptism Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Father: Truls Carlsen
Mother: Sigrid Christophersdr
FHL Film Number: 124052
Original record from Digitalarkviet, middle of right hand page
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AntonH
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Posted - 10/01/2018 : 00:35:41
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on family tree family search . org maren trulsdatter born april 9 1802 christen april 14 1802 nordehov buskerrud no parents mention
What is the source of the birth data that you are using?
I assume this is her on the Monserud farm in the 1865 Census.
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I noticed that in the marriage record that Maren used the farm name of Hønen-eie
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And that Ole used the farm name Øverjorde of Hole with some words connecting him to Hønen. |
Edited by - AntonH on 10/01/2018 00:49:58 |
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lynn peterson432
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Posted - 10/01/2018 : 00:59:18
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| find a grave mare monserud born april 9 1802 maren trulsdatter born april 9 1802 christen april 14 1802 Norderhov Buskerid family tree family search, org |
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AntonH
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Posted - 10/01/2018 : 02:23:33
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I think there are some issues with the dates you are using. You can see from this Dansk calendar the dates for 1802. Most generally baptisms for Norderhov took place on a Sunday. April 14, 1802 is a Wednesday. The record that Jan Peter found for Mari of May 2, 1802. May 2 is a Sunday in 1802.
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You can also spend some time studying the relevant page in the Digitalarkivet parish book for Noderhov. On the left side page of this link is the dates for April 4 to May 30 for Noderhov.
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There are three sub-parishes covered in this record. Norderhov, Lunder and Haug. The left hand side of the page lists the date and the sub-parish. The right hand date column is the date when the mother was introduced into the congregation.
So on May 2 a Truls Carlsen and Siri Christophersdatter has a daughter named Mari baptized. The mother was re-introduced to the congregation on 14 May. |
Edited by - AntonH on 10/01/2018 02:51:46 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 10/01/2018 : 03:00:43
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If you are interested in taking your family tree further back in time and you are a subscriber to Ancestry.com it is sometimes fairly easy to use Ancestry to search for the likely biaptisms and marriage. For example here is likely the marriage of Truols Carlsen and Siri Christophersdatter.
Truls Carlsen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Sigri Christophersdr
Gender: Female
Marriage Date: 29 sep 1794
Marriage Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Spouse: Truls Carlsen
FHL Film Number: 124052 |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 10/01/2018 : 18:35:26
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#125 Peder Olsen
Born: 17 Sep 1824
Chr: 21 Nov 1824
Parents: Ole Nielsen Monserud Trøgstad-eie & Maren Trulsdatter.
Emigration: 01 Apr 1854.
Death: 17 Feb 1889, Waterville, Allamakee County, Iowa
Regarding Marens birthdate of April 9th 1802:
The only official records that could prove this date, is her christening, confirmation or marriage record.
Unfortunately, none of the records found contain her date of birth. The date on her gravestone must come from her own papers, e.g. her bible or something.
The christening date of April 14 1802 must be wrong.
April 14 1802 was wednesday before Maundy Thursday; and not a church day. Thus; no christening in the Norwegian churches on that date. Only possibilty is if she was christened at home, which I think is very unlikely the day before the Easter holidays begins.
Maybe April 14 is incorrectly read from the christening record of May 2nd, where it says her mother Siri was re-introduced on May 14th.
May 14 was a Friday, and thus not an ordinary church day.
But May 14 1802 was General Prayer Day, a Danish holiday celebrated on the 4th Friday after Easter.
1801-census shows her parents living on Qvernbergsunds Ødegaard.
This marriage record copy show her on Qvernbergsund pladsen Hønen-eie.
I think we have enough evidence to say that Marens parents were Truls Carlsen Trøgstad-Eie og Siri Christophersdr. |
Edited by - jwiborg on 10/01/2018 21:33:22 |
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lynn peterson432
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Posted - 10/01/2018 : 20:00:52
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| thank you for your help i found a siri christophersdatter born nov 24 1771 norderhov buskerud father christopher moe which could be Maren Grand father o n her mothers side and a truls karlsen born dec 26 1764 norderhov buskerud father michaelsen mother christie Halvorsdatter which coul;d be maren grand parents on her fathers side |
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AntonH
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Posted - 10/01/2018 : 22:48:12
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From a Ancestry.com tree for the parents of Truls Carlsen.
Carl Michelsen
BIRTH 1717 • Norderhov, Buskerud, Norway
DEATH 01 JUN 1789 • Norderhov, Buskerud, Norway
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Kristi Halvorsdatter
BIRTH 1726
DEATH 17 APR 1774 • Norderhov, Buskerud, Norway
Probably this record
Truls Karlsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Truls Karlsen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 26 des 1764 (26 Dec 1764)
Baptism Place: , Norderhov, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Carl Michelsen
Mother: Chirsti Halvorsdr
FHL Film Number: 124051
Original record second record on the left hand page
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Here is a record that may take this family back another generation.
Maybe the parents of Carl Michelsen.
Carl Mikkelsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Carl Mikkelsen
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 13 sep 1722
Baptism Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Father: Michel Amundsen
Mother: Barbara Trulsdr
FHL Film Number: 124050
And you can see where the name Truls comes from.
The original record is on the right hand page. In the fourth record listed under September Dom 15th past Trinitas (which in 1722 is the 13 of September)
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Edited by - AntonH on 10/01/2018 23:41:24 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 10/01/2018 : 23:00:06
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And for the parents of Sigrid (Siri) Christophersdatter, we find a Christopher Pedersen and Karen Michelsdatter
Sigri Kristoffersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Sigri Kristoffersen
[Sigri Pedersen]
Gender: Female
Baptism Date: 17 feb 1771
Baptism Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Father: Christopher Pedersen
Mother: Karen Michelsdr
FHL Film Number: 124051
Original record is middle of the page on the right hand side
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This is probably the marriage record for the parents of Sigri
Christopher Pedersen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Christopher Pedersen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 28 des 1767 (28 Dec 1767)
Marriage Place: Norderhov,Buskerud,Norway
Spouse: Kari Mikkelsdr
FHL Film Number: 124051
Orignial record, look at the records on the right hand page, go down to the third record under the 28 Dec record.
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Edited by - AntonH on 10/01/2018 23:17:51 |
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