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TomHammer
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Posted - 14/02/2018 : 22:21:42
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I'm looking for the Parish records that show the DOB and their parents.
Peder Kristiansen (b. 1829 in Våler, Hedmark, Norway) Hellene Ulrikke Halvorsdatter (b. 1828 in Åsnes, Hedmark, Norway)
This couple was married 7 April 1854 in Våler, Hedmark, Norway and their fathers are listed as Christian Einersen and Halvor Gustavsen: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NWDK-FHC?from=lynx1&treeref=KZ1R-2GT
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 14/02/2018 : 22:57:10
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Helene Ulrikke's parents are Halvor Gustafsen (1801-) and Anne Marie Ulrichsen (1777-1834). Anne Marie was from Kongshaug, and was previousy married to Halvor Knudsen Røsen (1771-1819), whom she had 6 children with. |
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TomHammer
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101 Posts |
Posted - 14/02/2018 : 23:29:50
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Could this be the record? Everything looks right, except the mother's name is Anne Maria Arnesdr, not Ulrichsen.
Name: Helene Uldrikke Halvorsdr Name Note: Titles and Terms: Gender: Female Age: Race: Birth Date: 15 Oct 1828 Birthplace: Christening Date: 09 Nov 1828 Christening Place: HOF, HEDMARK, NORWAY Christening Age: Death Date: Father's Name: Halvor Gustavsen Father's Titles and Terms: Father's Birthplace: Father's Age: Mother's Name: Anne Maria Arnesdr Mother's Titles and Terms: Mother's Birthplace: Mother's Age: Paternal Grandfather's Name: Paternal Grandmother's Name: Maternal Grandfather's Name: Maternal Grandmother's Name: Note: Reference ID: 2:1H39XNK System Origin: Norway-VR GS Film Number: 124289 Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C42340-3
Citing this Record: "Norway Baptisms, 1634-1927," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N4GY-PQY : 10 February 2018), Halvor Gustavsen in entry for Helene Uldrikke Halvorsdr, 15 Oct 1828; citing ; FHL microfilm 124,289. |
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TomHammer
Medium member
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101 Posts |
Posted - 14/02/2018 : 23:33:10
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Probably is. Here is the marriage record and her father's name is Arne Uldriksen, which is close to Ulrichsen: Name: Halvor Gustavsen Birth Date: 1801 Birthplace: Age: 27 Spouse's Name: Maria Arnesdr Spouse's Birth Date: 1779 Spouse's Birthplace: Spouse's Age: 49 Event Date: 04 Jul 1828 Event Place: Hof, Hedmark, Norway Father's Name: Gustav Gustavsen Mother's Name: Spouse's Father's Name: Arne Uldriksen Spouse's Mother's Name: Race: Marital Status: Previous Wife's Name: Spouse's Race: Spouse's Marital Status: Spouse's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M42340-3 System Origin: Norway-VR GS Film number: 124289 Reference ID: 2:Z38R4V
Citing this Record: "Norway Marriages, 1660-1926," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NW9B-B1C : 10 February 2018), Halvor Gustavsen and Maria Arnesdr, 04 Jul 1828; citing Hof, Hedmark, Norway; FHL microfilm 124,289. |
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TomHammer
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Posted - 19/02/2018 : 15:39:13
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jwiborg, were the 6 children's names Berte, Arne, Karen, Anton, Gunder, and Karenius?
Tom
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 19/02/2018 : 19:15:23
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quote: Originally posted by TomHammer
jwiborg, were the 6 children's names Berte, Arne, Karen, Anton, Gunder, and Karenius?
Tom
Close! Åsnesboka 1 list the following 6 children:
Knut 1803 Arne 1805 Karelius 1807 Anton 1813 Berte - married to Halvor Sørensen Lund Karen |
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TomHammer
Medium member
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101 Posts |
Posted - 19/02/2018 : 20:47:57
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Hmmm...now I'm a little confused. I'm looking at this Community Tree: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/2:2:3ZBD-VVK and it looks like Helene Ulrikke's father/mother is Halvor Gustafson and Karen (the daughter of Halvor Knudsen and Ann Marie).
Is it possible for you to send a link to what you see?
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 19/02/2018 : 21:04:29
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I understand your confusion, but I think the author of the Community Tree got it wrong. It says: - Enken giftet seg med Halvor Gustafsen, f.1801, og hadde ett barn med han, Helene Ulrikke f. 1828. - The widow married Halvor Gustafsen, b.1801, and had one child with him, Helene Ulrikke b. 1828. The widow this sentence refer to, is Anne Marie (Arnesdatter) Ulrichsen, who became a widow in 1819 when her husband Halvor Knudsen Røsen died.
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TomHammer
Medium member
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101 Posts |
Posted - 19/02/2018 : 21:14:29
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I suspected so. Thanks for the clarification. Tom |
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TomHammer
Medium member
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101 Posts |
Posted - 19/02/2018 : 22:36:56
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I found this birth record for a Peder Christiansen - record 200. Looks like 22 October 1829, but the father doesn't look right. A marriage records showed it is Christian Einersen and I don't know what his mother's name is.
Can anyone read the birth record? https://media.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/9162/104?indexing=
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 19/02/2018 : 23:38:19
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Here is how Ancestry transcribed the record
Peder Christiansen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Peder Christiansen Gender: Male Birth Date: 22 sep 1829 Baptism Date: 27 sep 1829 Baptism Place: Hof, Hedmark, Norway Father: Christian Pedersen Mother: Berte Gulbrandsdr FHL Film Number: 124289 Reference ID: 2:1H3B68F |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 19/02/2018 : 23:46:34
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Maybe it is this one?
Peder Christiansen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Peder Christiansen Gender: Male Birth Date: 2 jul 1830 Baptism Date: 1 aug 1830 Baptism Place: Hof, Hedmark, Norway Father: Christian Einersen Mother: Anne Olsdr FHL Film Number: 124289 Reference ID: 2:1H3BDP5
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
4961 Posts |
Posted - 19/02/2018 : 23:46:47
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Farmname = Kvesæt |
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TomHammer
Medium member
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101 Posts |
Posted - 20/02/2018 : 16:29:19
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The second one seems more likely. Here is the link to his gravesite marker: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/92978891/peter-hammer. Since there is no picture of the marker, it's possible he may have actually been born in 1830 and his birth year was estimated. I'll keep searching for definite proof.
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 20/02/2018 : 17:49:37
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Here is the family in the 1865 Norwegian Census with a birth year of 1830 listed for Peder Christiansen.
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
Norway
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Posted - 20/02/2018 : 19:59:32
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Re: Peder born 1830:
Parents are not married. Father Christian lives on farm Sjøbrænden, while mother Anne lives on Snarvold. Modern spelling of these two farms are Sjøbrenna and Snarhol They are neighboring farms in Braskereidfoss district of Våler, Hedmark. Census-1865 shows Peder & Helene on Smedstad, which is in the same area.
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