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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
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Posted - 05/04/2018 :  04:17:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Theron

1. What website do I go to check out the declaration to become a us citizen? Is there a link?

2. For the digital archive: I found this site but it was all in Norwegian. How did you change it to English?

Sorry for all the questions. I’m new at this game.




1. You can search and look at the property at glorecords.blm.gov Enter Peter Moe for the name and choose Minnesota after clicking on Land Patents. The declaration of intention is usually included as part of the homestead file and is required to have in order to get a homestead from the Federal government. The full homestead file is available for purchase at the National Archives in Washington. The declaration of intention might also be available at this site.http://www.ironrangeresearchcenter.org/search/?first_scopeterm=exact&firstname=&last_scopeterm=exact&lastname=&county=All&recordtype=7 or in Ancestry. You have to buy a copy of the record to view all the information .

2. At the Norwegian Digital Archives there is a button on the right hand side at the top that allows you to select one of the two official Norwegian languages or English. English is only available for the transcribed records. The parish registers, the actual vital records of Norway, are of course, only available in Norwegian and are most often handwritten.
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 05/04/2018 :  22:17:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Well this is turning out to be a tough one. A different approach. The first place we find Peder Moe is in 1900 living with Elias Sather. Probably Elias Estenson Sather born 1873. Could Peder have known him in Norway. Anyway this is likely his baptism record based on the data for the WWI record for Elias.

Elias Estensen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Elias Estensen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 14 jun 1873
Baptism Date: 20 jul 1873
Baptism Place: Narbuvold,Hedmark,Norway
Father: Esten Eriksen
Mother: Johanna Olsdr
FHL Film Number: 124473

Here is Esten and family on Sæther farm in Tolga,Hedmark in the 1875 Census.

1875

Edited by - AntonH on 05/04/2018 22:24:18
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 05/04/2018 :  23:13:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are 13 children named Peder born between 1868 and 1872 in the 1875 Census living in Tolga on a farm with a name having a moe in it somewhere.

Peder Ingebregtsen Brædemøen

Link


Peder Olsen Hulbækmoe søndre & nordre (found by Jackie)

Link


There is also

Peder Ingebretsen Skrivergaarden (birth date is 13 mar 1870) correction to my post, his family has the Katmo (Kotmoen) connection. Thx Jackie

Link

So the one with the right birth date is in the end the correct candidate.

Edited by - AntonH on 06/04/2018 00:00:03
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 05/04/2018 :  23:35:25  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I think we can eliminate Peder Olsen Hulbækmoe as he is back in Norway for both the 1900 and 1910 Norwegian Census. His birth date given in the 1910 Census matches the one posted on page one.

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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 05/04/2018 :  23:55:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Ah ha here we go, Jackie got me thinking Kotmo again and here he is Peder E. Kotmo emigrated 1896 from Tolgen to Quebec.

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Probably used the spelling of Engebretsen for his fathers name.

Edited by - AntonH on 07/04/2018 16:51:03
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AntonH
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USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2018 :  00:12:55  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here he is crossing from Canada into the US.

Peder E Kotmor
in the U.S., Border Crossings from Canada to U.S., 1895-1960
Name: Peder E Kotmor
Gender: Male
Race/Nationality: Norwegian
Age: 26
Birth Date: abt 1870
Arrival date: 4 May 1896
Port of Arrival: Quebec, Canada
Ship Name: Sardinian
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Residence Place: Talgen
Record Type: Manifests
Line Number: 22
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 06/04/2018 :  00:18:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
And his arrival in America. Spelling is a little off

Peder E Kolme
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Peder E Kolme
Gender: Male
Age: 26
Birth Year: abt 1870
Vessel: Sardinian
Date of Arrival: 4 May 1896
Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec, Canada
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2018 :  00:25:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is the marriage record for the parents of Peder Moe born 1870 Tolga Hedmark

Ingebret Pedersen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Ingebret Pedersen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 21 nov 1862
Marriage Place: Tolga,Hedmark,Norway
Spouse: Barbro Svendsdr
FHL Film Number: 124470

Original record

#23

Farm is called Kotmoen here. The father of Ingebret is Peder Olsen Kotmoen and the father of Barbro is Sven Olsen Lillehaug.

Edited by - AntonH on 06/04/2018 00:34:56
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 06/04/2018 :  00:41:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably the baptism record for the father of Peder Moe.

Ingebret Pedersen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Ingebret Pedersen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 29 nov 1839
Baptism Date: 5 jan 1840
Baptism Place: , Tolga, Hedmark, Norway
Father: Peder Olsen
Mother: Kjersti Ingebretsdr
FHL Film Number: 124470

Original record farm is Kotmoen

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Edited by - AntonH on 06/04/2018 00:43:46
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran

USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2018 :  00:46:44  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably the baptism record for the mother of Peder Moe.

Barbro Svendsdr
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Barbro Svendsdr
Gender: Female
Birth Date: jul 1841
Baptism Date: 18 jul 1841
Baptism Place: Tolga,Hedmark,Norway
Father: Svend Johnsen
Mother: Maren Jonsdr
FHL Film Number: 124470

Farm name is Lillehaug

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Edited by - AntonH on 06/04/2018 00:59:38
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Theron
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Canada
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Posted - 06/04/2018 :  00:47:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Does this mean he may have first came to Canada then US and back to Canada? All these names are so confusing. Do Norwegians take the name of their farm as their last name?
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AntonH
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USA
9301 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2018 :  00:52:39  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes he came to the United States through Quebec, Canada. That is not at all unusual, especially for those whose destination was one of the northern states such as Minnesota or North Dakota.

Many but not by any means all Norwegians took the name of the farm or some version of the farm name as their last name when they emigrated to the Americas

My grandfather was called Anton Olsen Høgeli in some Norwegian records. The farm was called Høgeli. In America he thought there were more than enough Olsens so his last name became Hagelee. A version of the farm name. His two brothers spelled their last name Hogelee and Hogeli.

Edited by - AntonH on 06/04/2018 00:57:50
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Theron
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Posted - 06/04/2018 :  01:05:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you so much for this info.
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Theron
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Posted - 06/04/2018 :  01:24:24  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Could you send me links to the documents for the two crossings that you found? This is amazing info! Thanks
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jkmarler
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USA
7790 Posts

Posted - 06/04/2018 :  01:30:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here's the marriage with the first wife who travelled with him to US in 1896 from MOMS (Minnesota Official Marriage System):
JACKSON
D-005
05/31/1896
KOTMOE, PEDER ENGBRETSON
HULBAKMOE, ELENA OLSON

Edited by - jkmarler on 06/04/2018 01:33:06
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