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MichelleAiken
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 Posted - 01/12/2018 : 16:15:43
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| Hi I am looking for any information on Gulbrand Gulbrandsen born march 18 1856 who lived on the Storlie or Storeli farm in Gransherad kongsberg parish. He is/Was my 2nd great grandfather who immigrated here in abt. 1883-84 with my 2nd great grandmother Maren Karine Mathiasdatter. I'm looking for information and /or pictures of the farm/s they lived on while in Norway and also photos of them or relatives of theirs that still live in Norway or maybe someone who knows information about the Storeli Farm. Thanks in advance. |
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MichelleAiken
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Posted - 01/12/2018 : 16:19:09
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| Also if anyone has a family tree already made for the relatives who stayed in Norway that would be amazing too! Ty Michelle |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 01/12/2018 : 17:15:03
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Also confusing things a little is that there is this baptism record for Gulbrand Gulbrandsen that matches the birth data given by the OP and is from Kongsberg.
Gulbrand Gulbrandsen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Gulbrand Gulbrandsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 18 mar 1856
Baptism Date: 20 mai 1856 (20 May 1856)
Baptism Place: , Kongsberg, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Gulbrand Gulbrandsen
Mother: Gunnild Olsdr
FHL Film Number: 123985
#73
So maybe he was born in Kongsberg and the family moved to Gransherrad. Farm looks like Kasa? in the baptism record. I see that Kasa, nordre is the adjacent farm to Storeli in the 1865 census.
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Edited by - AntonH on 01/12/2018 17:47:28 |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 01/12/2018 : 17:29:20
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The municipalities Gransherad, Heddal and Notodden was in 1964 merged to the new municipality of Notodden, Telemark. Except for the region Gransherad-Jondalen, that was joined with Kongsberg, Buskerud.
Storli is in Gransherad-Jondalen, and today a part of Kongsberg, Buskerud. |
Edited by - jwiborg on 01/12/2018 17:43:02 |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 01/12/2018 : 19:31:28
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The Storli farm farm (u. Rĝnningsdalen) and the family (parents and siblings) of Gulbrand Gulbrandsen are listed on page 661 of the book "Gransheradsoga." In the same book just a few pages earlier are at least two Kasa farms which probably give information about earlier generations of his father's family. There are no pictures of those farms or families in that book but a family history could probably be traced out of the ancestral line in Gransherad, Telemark.
I was able to borrow the book some years ago by Inter-Library Loan and I always keep a copy of the "Innhald" [Table of Contents] when I have to return one. I cannot say that the book is easy to follow but it may prove helpful to you if you spend the time. |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 01/12/2018 : 23:16:02
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| Thone Olsdatter Rĝnningsdalen from Gransherad was one of the godparents |
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MichelleAiken
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Posted - 01/12/2018 : 23:24:13
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Ok thank you. I can see on the 1965 census that I have some of his siblings correct but can anybody tell me if the rest of the siblings that I have down on my tree for him or the correct family?
Gunnild Gulbrandsdatter: b. 1849 unknown death date
Ole Gulbrandsen: b.1851 unknown death date
Berthe Gulbrandsdatter: b 1854 unknown death date
Anders Gulbrandsen: b. 1858 d.1859
Anne Gulbrandsdatter: b. 1860 unknown death date
Anders Gulbrandsen: b. 1864 d.1865
Helge Gulbrandsen: b.1867 unknown death date
Kittil Gulbrandsen: b. 1871 unknown death date
Ole Andreas Gulbrandsen: b. 1878 unknown death date
I have a very hard time understanding the Norwegian records so I greatly appreciate any help and info I can get |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 01/12/2018 : 23:24:19
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I think, not sure, Gulbrand was born in Jondalen, Gransherad, which was an independant parish but is recorded in Kongsberg. His father was "lĝsarbeider" Day laborer.
The second godparent was Ole Olsen Narverud from Gransherad |
Edited by - Kċarto on 02/12/2018 00:16:01 |
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MichelleAiken
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Posted - 01/12/2018 : 23:45:35
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| So if it's an independent parish there isn't access to records? Is that what that means? |
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Hopkins
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Kċarto
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Posted - 02/12/2018 : 00:14:11
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This looks like the famous needle in the hay stack.
The 1865 cenus showed above tells ;
County: Telemark, Municipality (1947) Gransherad, Hovin (a sub parish) Geographic area; Gransherad parish, Gransherad local parish, Hovin local parish.
Remarks; Gransheard-Jondalen school-district includes this source. It belongs to Gransherad local parish and bailiff area, but Kongsberg parish (Buskerud county).
The Bygdebook tells Gulbrand Gulbrandsen Kċsa was born on Kċsa 1824 and died on Storelien /Storeli/Storli 1896.
The farm do not exist today. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 02/12/2018 : 00:24:30
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Here is the list children from Ancestry.com for parents Gulbrand Gulbrandsen and Gunnild Ols*
Name: Anne Gulbrandsen
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 28 okt 1860 (28 Oct 1860)
Baptism Date: 4 aug 1861
Baptism Place: , Kongsberg, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Gulbrand Gulbrandsen
Mother: Gunnild Olsdr
Name: Anders Gulbrandsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 28 okt 1864 (28 Oct 1864)
Baptism Date: 1865
Baptism Place: , Kongsberg, Buskerud, Norway
Death Date: 22 mai 1865 (22 May 1865)
Father: Gulbrand Gulbrandsen
Mother: Gunnild Olsdr
Name: Kittil Gulbrandsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 26 feb 1871
Baptism Date: 13 jun 1874
Baptism Place: , Kongsberg, Buskerud, Norway
Father: Gulbrand Gulbrandsen
Mother: Gunhild Olsdr
Note the location for this one, needs checking?
Name: Ole Andreas Gulbrandsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 4 aug 1878
Baptism Date: 22 sep 1878
Baptism Place: Sĝr-Aurdal, Oppland, Norway
Father's Age: 45
Mother's Age: 47
Father: Gulbrand Gulbrandsen
Mother: Gunhild Olsdatter
FHL Film Number: 1282583
Reference ID: p25 ln102 |
Edited by - AntonH on 02/12/2018 00:37:27 |
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Kċarto
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Posted - 02/12/2018 : 00:32:08
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Gulbrand Gulbrandsen Kasa born July 25. 1824 is recorded in the Church book for both Gransherad and Kongsberg
Gransherad Church book, born July 25, bapt. Sept. 15. Baptised in Kongsberg 1824, Gulbrand is #11
Kongsberg Church book, baptised Sept. 25. 1824 #45
Parents: Gulbrand Olsen Kasa and Goro Andersdatter.
Column 8. Fra (From) Hierdal (Hjartdal), Gransherad was in 1824 a sub parish under Hjartdal. "Hjemmedĝpt" Bapt at home |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 02/12/2018 : 01:20:09
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The location of the farm:
The land is today used for a winter-camp:
It's possible the farm was located at the red ring below, just south of the campground.
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Kċarto
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Posted - 02/12/2018 : 18:05:34
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quote:
Originally posted by MichelleAiken
So if it's an independent parish there isn't access to records? Is that what that means?
There are acess to all records, a puzzle can be where to look in the Hjartdal, Gransherad, Jondalen and Kongsberg records. |
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Gulbrandsen family and the Storlie/Storeli farm?..
