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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 13/03/2019 : 22:06:21
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Thanks Anton and ToreL for your work, I'm leaning towards the Sedsel born in 1784.Died April 4, 1847. A cousin of mine had a relative in Norway do some checking and that is what he came up with, no info on Anders Larsen. other than listing him as her husband. I think at least you have their marriage date. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/03/2019 : 22:11:40
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Good find in the 1801 Census.
You might notice that I am striking out several of my entries. A closer look makes me doubt that they are relevant.
The Kari Larsdatter in that list has a mother Marte Christensdatter. Using Ancestry the only connection I can find is a Kari Larsdattter from Løten.
Kari Larsen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-192 Name: Kari Larsen [Kari Andersen] Gender: Female Baptism Date: 28 jan 1770 Baptism Place: , Loten, Hedmark, Norway Father: Lars Andersen Mother: Marthe Christensdr FHL Film Number: 124292
And this is probably her brother Anders Larsen born in 1765 also in Løten Hedmark and what appears to be the same parents.
Anders Larsen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Anders Larsen Gender: Male Baptism Date: 17 feb 1765 Baptism Place: , Loten, Hedmark, Norway Father: Lars Andersen Mother: Marthe Christensdr FHL Film Number: 124292
Not in Vang but Løten is next door.
However father is wrong!
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/03/2019 : 01:08:12
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So we do keep looking for a clue that pins down Anders and his parents. Looking at the baptism records for the childen of Anders Larsen and Sissel Jensdatter and especially the farms associated with those records and the fadder who witnessed the baptism.
Here is the baptism of Jens born 1817 the farm is Halset Ejer
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There is a Anders Larsen living on Halseth farm in the 1801 Census
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Probably his baptism record. The father has the last name of the farm plus the eie or ejer which signifies a sub farm.
Anders Larsen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Anders Larsen Gender: Male Birth Date: 15 mar 1786 Baptism Place: Vang, Hedmark, Norway Father: Lars Halsaeteje Mother: Lisbet Andersdr FHL Film Number: 124475
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 14/03/2019 : 01:29:04
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That could be him, I am still trying to track him. I see that at the birth of daughter Berte in 1828 Anders Larsen and Sissel Jensdatter were living at Myhrseie which is the farm my great grandfather lived on and where my grandfather Lars took our name from. So still searching going backwards now. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/03/2019 : 01:39:47
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Based on the info directly above I would think that this is the Lars Halset (Halseth, Halsæt eie)
Lars Gulbrands Halset
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Also note the farm name Sandvold is connected with this person. I have seen that farm name in some of the records associated with Anders and Sidsel.
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Gulbrand 1769
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Birte 1776
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The family on Halset in 1801 Census. There is a Anders listed, he is listed as a servant and not a son.
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Gunnor
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For Lisbet the father is listed as Gulbrand?
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 14/03/2019 : 01:48:29
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I just looked up Anders Larsen Halset whose father Is the same person you just mentioned. I believe all the farms are fairly close to each other, For now I think you’ve found the right person |
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/03/2019 : 02:39:18
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Maybe, but there still are some things that do not make any sense. In the 1801 Census of Halset the parents are very old and it states that it is their first marriage. And the wife is Sidsel Larsdatter. The mother for Anders is Lisbet Andersdatter. |
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 14/03/2019 : 12:45:04
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Okay going over what we have:
1. Anders Larsen Mar.15,1786 father Lars Halseteje mother Lisbet Andersdr the father's name doesn't contain Gulbrandsen. However this might still be the right Anders. 2. The Anders in the 1801 Census for Halset farm appears to be 2 years older, listed as servant. I think this is wrong person, wrong parents.
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/03/2019 : 22:28:34
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quote: 1. Anders Larsen Mar.15,1786 father Lars Halseteje mother Lisbet Andersdr the father's name doesn't contain Gulbrandsen. However this might still be the right Anders.
Perhaps the fathers last name is not Gulbandson. Here is a Anders Larsen born about 1786 living on Grinager in the 1801 Census. Father is Lars Larsen and mother is Lisbet Andesdatter.
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Edited by - AntonH on 15/03/2019 01:56:25 |
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 14/03/2019 : 22:51:06
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your link takes me to a page where he is a witness at a baptism. However his residence is L. Gaalaas. Is this the Anders you posted about earlier on yesterday. I see you edited him out but he could still be a a candidate. |
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ToreL
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Posted - 14/03/2019 : 22:52:20
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I'm confused, did you put the right url iin the ladt post? The Anders Larsen who was a fadder in 1799 must have been born before 1786?? |
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 14/03/2019 : 22:57:41
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Yes it seems to be the wrong link however the Anders in the link being in lille Gaalaas would be interesting if we knew where he came from. It is a farm in Furnæs/Vang Parish where some of my other ancestors lived. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 14/03/2019 : 23:05:00
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My bad, here is the correct link to the 1801 Census for Grinager.
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The incorrect link was from the search for the Anders Larsen who married Sidsel .The approach was to see what farms are associated with people named Anders Larsen around the 1800 era. I corrected above so that link now is for the 1801 Census
The 1801 Census shows two children for Lars Larsen and Lisbet Andersdatter, Anders and Marte. This baptism record seems to show a third child Lars, however he does not show up in the 1801 Census.
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 15/03/2019 : 00:12:41
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This last Anders Larssen seems to be the most interesting. It is also interesting to see 3 Lisbet Andersdatter on same page, ages 70 yrs, 2 yrs. and Anders mother 54 yrs. |
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/03/2019 : 02:03:21
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Tough to find a definitive clue to the correct Anders Larsen. Here are in my opinion the three best candidates. From Ancestry.com
Name: Anders Larsen Gender: Male Birth Date: 15 mar 1786 Baptism Place: Vang , Hedmark, Norway Father: Lars Halsaeteje Mother: Lisbet Andersdr FHL Film Number: 124475
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Name: Anders Larsen Gender: Male Birth Date: 26 aug 1787 Baptism Place: Vang , Hedmark, Norway Father: Lars Lundeje Mother: Olia Torgersdr FHL Film Number: 124475
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Name: Anders Larsen Gender: Male Birth Date: 6 aug 1786 Baptism Place: Vang , Hedmark, Norway Father: Lars Snarudeje Mother: Karen Anstensdr FHL Film Number: 124475
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At present my preference is for the first on the list as his last name a farm name like all the others is found in some of the fadder of his children. But second would be the third Andes as his father shows up in at least one of the baptism records. |
Edited by - AntonH on 15/03/2019 02:21:45 |
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