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AntonH
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Posted - 15/03/2019 :  02:25:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here are the children and my best guess as to the faddder

First child Lars has fadder of Lars Snarud, Knud Olsen Halset, Kersti Christopherdatter Snarud, Ole Nielsen Sandvold

Farm name is Sandvold

Link

Jens has fadder Lars Larsen Halseth, Hustru Halseth, Jens Larsen Halseth, Ole Nielsen Halseth and unknown Halseth

Farm name is Halseth

Link

Poul has fadder Knut Jorgensen Grinager, Ole Andersen Grinager, Karie Larsdatter Grinager, Lisbet Andersdatter Grinager

Farm name is Sandvold

Link

Ole has fadder Torger Olsen Grinager, Kari Larsdatter Grinager, Knud Grinager, Lisbet Grinager, Anders Olsen Grinager.

Farm name is Grinager

Link

Berthe has fadder Jens Nielsen Myhrseie, ?, Anders Jensen Stochsetheie, ?, Kari Michelsdatter Myhre

Farm name is Myhrseie paa Furnæs.

Link

Edited by - AntonH on 26/11/2019 02:10:51
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 15/03/2019 :  02:27:07  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I also think that we might never definitely pin down
the correct Anders however you have supplied info
I didn’t have before. Thanks very much for your help
You are probably correct because of the connections
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AntonH
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Posted - 15/03/2019 :  02:39:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Yes unfortunately right now it is very difficult to choose between Lars Halset (Halseth) and Lars Snarud.

Edited by - AntonH on 15/03/2019 02:39:50
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 17/11/2019 :  16:22:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have received more information on Anders Larsen from a distant relative in
Norway who credit the correct Anders Larsen circa 1781 to 3 Jun 1861
Death in link below shows his birth as 1781

(https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/267/pg00000001817860)

Search for Anders Larsen 1781 turns up as below ( Snarud farm again )

(https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000010697331)

However we already have him in 1786 same parents same farm

(https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000009899870)

I can find no death record of Anders 1781 before the birth of the second
Anders 1786.
Leaving me still confused but a connection to Snarud farm.

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AntonH
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Posted - 17/11/2019 :  18:07:52  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Here is my guess. In the Vang records for 1781 there is a death record for a child of Lars Snarud died 1781 buried Oct 19, 1781. No name is listed for the child in the transcribed record only a !! symbol. Perhaps that is the first Anders.

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Here is a link to the original record. Look for 19 Octbr on the left page.

Seems to me to read Lars Snarud ? barn 16 ? (maybe weeks but mostly likely days ie dag}

Link

Edited by - AntonH on 17/11/2019 18:23:09
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 17/11/2019 :  18:18:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks Anton I missed this as i was going through Vang Parish church records.
this seems to confirm first Anders death. Maybe the death date I posted earlier is
a different person altogether.
The strongest connection so far seems to be the Halseth farm where in the 1801
Census his future inlaws Sidsel Jensdatter parents Jens Anderssn, Siri Andersdatter and 3 children are listed.

(https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058235003442)

However there are also good connections to both the Snarud farm and the
Grinager farm.

Edited by - Myhrecharlie on 17/11/2019 18:33:39
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 24/11/2019 :  15:17:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have found a different record for child Lars first son of
Anders Larsen and Sidsel Jensdatter. It appears the witnesses are
the same as those on baptism record as per this baptism of Lars 10 down
on left side.
(https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/16820/8)

However it puts a last name of Anderssen to Lars Snarud,more indication
he could be Anders father.

Link is #3 17 August 1814

(https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9055/86392/1)

Or is this just a note added to this baptism record, but it puts a last name to
Lars Snarud I hadn't noticed before

Edited by - Myhrecharlie on 24/11/2019 17:00:06
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jkmarler
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Posted - 24/11/2019 :  18:15:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Looks like the pastor and the klokker didn't get on the same page as they were supposed to do...

It looks like the note is about an "attest" to the pastor (or Arendtsen?) dated 12 August 1814.

SAH, Vang prestekontor, Hedmark, H/Ha/Hab/L0001: Klokkerbok nr. 1, 1792-1814, s. 128-129
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070512920018

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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 24/11/2019 :  18:31:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
jkmarler Thank you it appears it's the same record, I know the church
was supposed to keep two records but they are usually the same.
Am I correct in reading Lars Anderssen Snarud as the first witness.
If it does I will have something to keep searching for.

Edited by - Myhrecharlie on 24/11/2019 18:39:55
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jkmarler
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Posted - 24/11/2019 :  19:05:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The klokker book version is Lars Andersen Snærud farmer but the other is only Lars Snærud farmer. Although it is possible that Anders went by Larsen rather than Andersen or vice versa for reasons of this own, that we don't know. But there are a number of similar additions / notations for some of the others on the page. It might make an interesting study to see what they might be about as well. I thought the word was attest but it might be af sendt...
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 24/11/2019 :  19:23:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I am trying to pin down the last name of the Lars from Snarud farm who was the
father of this Anders born to Lars Snarud and Karen Anstensdr

Link Anders third from bottom left side
(https://media.digitalarkivet.no/view/9049/72)

Looks like it could be these people in the 1801 Census Snarud farm
https://www.rhd.uit.no/folketellinger/ftliste_e.aspx?ft=1801&knr=0414&kenr=002&bnr=0065&lnr=00
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AntonH
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Posted - 24/11/2019 :  23:21:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Transcribed Record

Anders 1786

These are the three children listed for Lars and Karen in Ancestry.

Name: Aletta Larsdatter
[Aletta Snarud]
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 25 nov 1784
Baptism Place: Vang , Hedmark, Norway
Father: Lars Snarud
Mother: Karen Anstensdr

Name: Anders Larsen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 6 aug 1786
Baptism Place: Vang , Hedmark, Norway
Father: Lars Snarudeje
Mother: Karen Anstensdr

Name: Marta Larsdatter
[Marta Snarud]
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 24 feb 1788
Baptism Place: Vang , Hedmark, Norway
Father: Lars Snarud
Mother: Karen Anstensdr

In the marriage record for Lars and Karen he also uses the name Snarud.

Link

Edited by - AntonH on 25/11/2019 00:25:57
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Myhrecharlie
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Posted - 24/11/2019 :  23:38:08  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks for the transcribed record of Anders 1786. I think the most accurate
record was the one recorded by the klokker as he would have been local and
probably knew the people better than the minister. I am now leaning towards the
Anders which you just supplied the transcription for as being the person who
married Sidsel Jensdatter. I don't think the name Anderssen applied to
Lars Snarud is a mistake.

I was hoping that I would other records of Lars Anderssen and Karen Anstensdr
but have found no others.

Edited by - Myhrecharlie on 25/11/2019 00:43:36
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AntonH
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Posted - 25/11/2019 :  01:59:47  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are three males associated with Snarud around 1770 to 1790. Lars, Syver and a Kiøstel (also spelled Tiøstel) and married to a Kari. He also shows up married to Kari with the full name of Kiøstel Embretsen Snarud.

Link

Link

In the baptism record for Anders born in 1781 Kiøstel Snarud is a witnesss.

Link


Edited by - AntonH on 25/11/2019 02:06:49
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AntonH
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Posted - 25/11/2019 :  02:30:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I see some information on the Snarud family on MyHeritage. However I am not a subscriber so cannot access it.

Ansteensen Snarud - Lars Ansteensen Snarud og Ane ...
https://www.myheritage.no › ansteensen-snarud-lars-ans... - Translate this page
Ansteensen Snarud - Lars Ansteensen Snarud og Ane Pedersdatter ... Lars Ansteensen Snarud giftet seg også med one other wife: Karen ... Fødsel: 1755 .
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