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joanforsythe
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 Posted - 17/05/2019 : 00:52:31
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| My grandmother was Margith Andersen born in Stokke Norway approximately 1889. She was the daughter of Anders Johannson ( Not sure of the spelling of Storevar also Stokke, Norway. Apparently there were 12 children in the family. Does anyone know of this family? |
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AntonH
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Posted - 17/05/2019 : 01:48:39
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I wonder if your birth year is off by ten?
Here in the 1891 Census is a Margit born in 1879. Father is Anders Johannessen and the farm is Storevahr, Stokke, Vestfold
1891
Only three children in 1891
What other information do you have on Margit or her parents?
Here is the Ancestry.com record on the above Margit.
Margith Johannesen (Andersdatter)
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Margith Johannesen (Andersdatter)
Gender: Female
Birth Date: 9 sep 1879
Baptism Date: 12 okt 1879 (12 Oct 1879)
Baptism Place: Stokke , Vestfold, Norway
Father's Age: 63
Mother's Age: 39
Father: Anders Johannesen
Mother: Anne Margrethe Olsdatter
FHL Film Number: 1282541
Reference ID: b2 p92 ln132
Parents ages might be a little off.
Anders born about 1827 or 1828.
Anne Margrethe born about 1838 to 1840
Original Baptism Record
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AntonH
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Posted - 17/05/2019 : 02:04:41
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Although if this is the same couple they had four children in the 1875 Census.
Anders Johannesen
in the Norway, Select Census, 1875
Name: Anders Johannesen
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Birth Date: abt 1827
Birth Place: Arndal S Stokke P
Residence Date: 1875
Residence Place: Melsomvig, Vestfold, Norway
Age: 48
Clerical District: Stokke
Circuit Number: 2
List Number: 68
Farm Number: 33
FHL Film Number: 255687
Household Members:
Name Age
Anders Johannesen 48
Anne Margrete Olsdatter 36
Ludvig Ferdinand Andersen 10
Olof Ingvald Guntiof Andersen 8
Agnĉs Albertine Andersdatter 3
Anne Gurine Andersdatter 0
Johan Nikolaisen 39
And only one child, Ludvig in the 1865 Census. Anders is listed as a Seaman, which fits with the 1891 Censsus
1865
A total of seven from various sources, a little short of 12 however f
Andrine Amalia 1861
#135
Ludvig 1865
#48
Olof 1867
#109
Agnes 1872
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For all of the children above the farm name was Storvahr (some variation in spelling)
Anne Gurine 1875
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The farm name here is Milsomvig or Milsomvik
Margit 1879
Back to Storvahr for Margrth (see above for link) and Atle
Atle Johannes 1883
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AntonH
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Posted - 17/05/2019 : 02:30:38
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Here is the marriage record for this couple
Anders Johansen
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Anders Johansen
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 4 des 1863 (4 Dec 1863)
Marriage Place: Stokke ,Vestfold,Norway
Father: Johan Johansen
Spouse: Anne Margrethe Olsdr
FHL Film Number: 278253
Original record
#32
Her father is Ole Aslaksen
Here is a possible for Ole Aslaksen in the 1865 Census living on Vahr Store. Born in 1806 and a seaman.
1865
Ole Aslaksen married Anna Gurine Aslaksdatter in 1836.
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Anne Margrethe was born Feb 26, 1840.
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Edited by - AntonH on 17/05/2019 03:17:18 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 17/05/2019 : 03:28:24
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A possible for Anders Johansen born in 1827 in Stokke
Anders Johansen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Anders Johansen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 11 aug 1827
Baptism Date: 2 sep 1827
Baptism Place: , Stokke, Vestfold, Norway
Father: Johannes Johannessen
Mother: Inger Olsdr
FHL Film Number: 127652
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Matches the baptism recored for the son Atle
Name: Atle Johannes Johannesen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 20 aug 1883
Baptism Date: 9 sep 1883
Baptism Place: Stokke , Vestfold, Norway
Father's Age: 11 Aug 1827
Mother's Age: 1839
Father: Anders Johannesen
Mother: Anne Margrethe Olsdatter
FHL Film Number: 1282541
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Edited by - AntonH on 17/05/2019 05:34:34 |
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joanforsythe
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Posted - 17/05/2019 : 22:35:17
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I am totally thrilled to get your response. I will read it carefully and respond. My Great- grandfather was a sea captain to my knowledge..
Thank you so very much. Joan |
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/05/2019 : 23:24:03
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Likely the emigration record for Margit Andersdatter. Birth date is a match
Link
From the Meta Record it would appear that Emil Eugen Magnusson and Margit Andersdatter travelled together from Norway to Canda as a party of five.
Meta Data
The arrival of Emil Magnusson in 1906
Emil Magunson
in the Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-193
Name: Emil Magunson
Gender: Male
Arrival Age: 21
Birth Year: abt 1885
Departure Port: Liverpool, England
Arrival Date: 23 Dec 1906
Arrival Port: St John, New Brunswick, Canada
Vessel: Empress of Ireland
On the passenger manifest the passenger are listed as
Emil Magnusson
Lovise Olson
Margit Andersen
Alfhild Magnussen
Arthur Magnussen
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Kċarto
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Posted - 20/05/2019 : 00:01:16
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/05/2019 : 00:26:34
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Here is the family of Emil and Margit in the 1911 Canadian Census
Emile Magunsson
in the 1911 Census of Canada
Name: Emile Magunsson
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Race or Tribe: Norwegian
Age: 27
Birth Date: Dec 1884
Birth Place: Norway
Census Year: 1911
Relation to Head of House: Chef (Head)
Immigration Year: 1870
Province: Quebec
District: Maisonneuve
District Number: 172
Sub-District: 13 - Montreal
Sub-District Number: 13
Place of Habitation: 196 Waite
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Emile Magunsson 27
Marguerite Magunsson 32
Edica Magunsson 4
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/05/2019 : 01:59:17
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It is possible that the father Edvard Magnusson travelled back and forth from Norway to Canada several times. Here are some of the records for Edvard Magnusson born about 1850 traveling to Canada.
With a Jenny Magnusson in 1905, could be his daughter born about 1888.
Emigration 1905
Emigration 1906
Travelling alone, note the address is Sandergard and sligtyoly different than the Sannergard for the family in the 1900 Norwegian Census.
And here he is 1911 going to his son. The birth date given for him matches that for the Edvard born 6-13-1850 in Sweden so very likely the same man.
Emigration 1911 |
Edited by - AntonH on 20/05/2019 02:25:58 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/05/2019 : 02:33:44
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In fact the more I look at the emigration records, it looks to me like several of the children travelled to Canada. If they stayed there and settled or returned to either Norway or Sweden is really not yet clear.
We think the father travelled back and forth several times. No sign that the mother Alette travelled to Canada.
Here is a list of the children from 1900 Census and the likely year for their travel to Canada
Gottfrid Magnussen 1879 Kristiania 1907
Augusta Magnussen 1881 Kristiania 1905
Anna Magnussen 1887 Kristiania
Hulda Magnussen 1891 Kristiania
Einar Magnussen 1893 Kristiania 1908
Helga Magnussen 1894 Kristiania 1908
Jenny Magnussen 1888 Kristiania 1905
Emil Magnussen 1884 Kristiania 1906 |
Edited by - AntonH on 20/05/2019 02:47:44 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/05/2019 : 02:42:13
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Here are the emigration records not yet posted.
Augusta Emilie leaving in 1905
Emigration 1905
Gottfrid left from Oslo in 1907 but he is listed as living in Sweden (Sverige0
Emigtratin 1907
Record for Einar in 1908
Emigration 1908 |
Edited by - AntonH on 20/05/2019 02:49:01 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/05/2019 : 02:58:33
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I would think that this is likely Einar Magnusson born about 1893 and who emigrated in 1908 in the 1911 Canadian Census
Name: Emas Magunssen
Gender: Male
Marital status: Single
Race or Tribe: Swedish
Age: 18
Birth Date: Dec 1892
Birth Place: Norway
Census Year: 1911
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Immigration Year: 1908
Province: British Columbia
District: Yale and Cariboo
District Number: 14
Sub-District: 60 - Yale
Sub-District Number: 60
Place of Habitation: Hope Tp |
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/05/2019 : 03:04:30
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Also in all this digging I came across a son of Edvard Magnusson and Alette Elise Olsdatter that I had missed.
Olaf Martin Magnussen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Olaf Martin Magnussen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 20 mar 1877
Baptism Date: 29 jul 1877
Baptism Place: Oslo, Oslo, Norway
Father: Edvard Magnussen
Mother: Anette Elise Olsen
FHL Film Number: 1259718
So by the time of the 1900 Norwegian Census he was already married and out on his own.
1900
He and his family left for Minnesota in 1902
Emigration 1902
But he also ended up in Canada for the 1911 Census
Olef Magrnussan
in the 1911 Census of Canada
Name: Olef Magrnussan
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Race or Tribe: Norwegian
Age: 34
Birth Date: Mar 1877
Birth Place: Norway
Census Year: 1911
Relation to Head of House: Head
Immigration Year: 1902
Province: Manitoba
District: Selkirk
District Number: 22
Sub-District: 15
Sub-District Number: 15
Place of Habitation: 87 Prchn Ave
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
Olef Magrnussan 34
Halda Magrnussan 35
Erling Magrnussan 15
Barger Magrnussan 8
Annie Magrnussan 12
Petter Gulbrandson 32 |
Edited by - AntonH on 20/05/2019 03:14:07 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/05/2019 : 03:57:16
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Some children of Edvard Magnusson and Alette Elise Olsdatter died young.
Oluf Hagbart Magnussen
in the Norway, Select Burials, 1666-1927
Name: Oluf Hagbart Magnussen
Gender: Male
Death Date: 14 des 1875 (14 Dec 1875)
Death Place: Oslo, Oslo, Norway
Father: Edv. Magnussen
Mother: Alethe Elise Olsen
FHL Film Number: 1282962
Reference ID: Item 281 p 62
Death record was found in the Vestre Aker parish records
#281
Lists him as having been born Dec 8, 1875 and parents not yet married. Residence seems to be Thorshaoug, Aker
As shown in your other post they were married October 8, 1876
#123
Kristian Arthur Magnussen
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Kristian Arthur Magnussen
Gender: Male
Birth Date: 2 des 1883 (2 Dec 1883)
Baptism Date: 15 des 1883 (15 Dec 1883)
Baptism Place: Oslo, Oslo, Norway
Death Date: 15 des 1883 (15 Dec 1883)
Father: Edvard Magnussen
Mother: Annette Elise Olsen
FHL Film Number: 1282971
Reference ID: Bk 1 |
Edited by - AntonH on 20/05/2019 17:09:04 |
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joanforsythe
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Posted - 20/05/2019 : 05:28:58
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| Thanks you again for all the information. It is very interesting. Joan Forsythe |
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Anders Johannson family Stokke Norway
