| Author |
 Topic  |
|
AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
 Posted - 20/05/2019 : 17:13:36
|
Using the information that when young son Oluf Habgart died in 1875 their residence was Thorshoug, Aker we can find Edward Magnusson in the 1875 Census at Nedre Thorshaoug
1875
Next to Edvard on the 1875 Census is a Anna Olsdatter. However the Census shows her as being born in 1838 not 1843 and in Sweden not Norway.
1875
Full List
|
Edited by - AntonH on 21/05/2019 02:25:57 |
 |
|
|
AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 21/05/2019 : 03:29:56
|
A lot of information but perhaps it would do to put up a basic family tree
Storvahr side Stokke parish, Vestfold Norway
Lieutenant Heiss and Anne Amundsdatter
Johannes Friedrichsen Heiss b 1751 married to Karen Malene Johannesdatter Velding b 1755
Johannes Johannsen b 1795 not married to Inger Olsdatter
Anders Johannesen b 1827 married to Anne Margrethe Olsdatter (Ole Aslaksen & Anna Gurine Aslaksdatter)
Margith Andersdatter b 1879 Storvahr
Swedish side
Eric Olsson Roos b 1767 married Nelia Öjarsdotter
Magnus Ericsson Roos b 1811 married Inga Olsdatter
Edvard Magnussen b 1850 Gøteborg Sweden married Alette Else Olsdatter b 1835 whose parents are Ole Andersen Lundberg & Marte Christiansdatter Østbye
Emil Magnussen b 1885 Oslo
|
Edited by - AntonH on 21/05/2019 23:19:26 |
|
|
|
joanforsythe
Starting member
Canada
7 Posts |
Posted - 21/05/2019 : 03:52:30
|
Dear Lyndal 40, Thank you so much for the simplification. It doe get confusing for the novice. I will do a family tree when I get back from Norway. I am going the 278th May for 3 weeks with my sister. We will go to Stokke and Storvahr and look around, perhaps go to the church with the recorsds.
You don't have any info on currently living people in my family, do you.? I gather a lot are in North America but if there is a chance to meet someone in Oslo or Stokke or Bergen , that would be really fun.
Many thanks, Skol Joan
|
Joan E Forsythe |
|
|
|
AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 21/05/2019 : 04:04:53
|
No I do not have any information on your living relatives in Norway. My skill is mostly in gong in the other direction. Speaking of which, using the basic family tree sometimes helps me see where it is useful to put my effort. So here is another generation back for the Stokke family. You are far enough back so that the information is getting a little sparse.
This is likely the baptism of Johannes Friedrichsen Heiss b 1751
Johannes Heiss
in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927
Name: Johannes Heiss
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 14 des 1751 (14 Dec 1751)
Baptism Place: , , Vestfold, NorwayStokke
Father: Heiss
Mother: Anne Amunsdr
FHL Film Number: 127651
So looking at the original record, it shows that Johannes was baptized Dec 14, 1751. He was born out of wedlock and his parents are Annne Amundsdatter and a Lieutenant Heiss.
See the right hand page third record from the bottom.
Link
The Norwegian transcribed record, note her farm is N Qverne or probably Nordre Kverne in the Bygdebok
Link
I suspect i will not get much further back then this one.
I hope you enjoy your trip to Norway. |
Edited by - AntonH on 21/05/2019 05:01:45 |
|
|
|
AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 21/05/2019 : 04:39:45
|
Well maybe a little further back. Based on the Norwegian transcription of the baptism of Johannes in 1751 I would venture to guess that the father of Anne Amundsdatter is Amund Ditmanssen of Nordre Qverne.and her mother is Berthe Jacobsdatter.
This from the Stokke bygdebok, the farm is Nordre Kverne
Amund Ditmanssøn 1714-59, brukte gaarden fra ca. 1714, i hvilket aar han kjøpte en mindre part. I 1723 fik han som før nævnt auktionsskjøte paa resten for 320 rdl. Født 1683, død 1762. Gift med Berte Jakobsdatter Øvre Klop som døde 1751. Fem barn: 1. Ditman, se nedenfor. 2. Johanne, død før faren. Gift med Amund Torssøn Solberg i Ramnes. 3. Berte, gift med sersjant Kristoffer Anderssøn Borgen, bor Fuske. 4. Anna, gift med bergmand Anders Andreassen paa Kongsberg. 5. Helvig, f. 1736, ugift og bor paa Kongsberg.
This tree and the above both list a daughter Anna. She married a Anders Andreassen. Still possible as she was not married to Lieutenant Heiss and could have married Anders Andreassen at some time after the birth of Johannes.
Geni.com |
Edited by - AntonH on 21/05/2019 04:54:39 |
|
|
|
AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 21/05/2019 : 22:09:19
|
Here is the record for the confirmation of Johannes Fridrichsen Nordre Qverne (also spelled Kverne) in 1767. While no parents are listed the fact that he is given the farm name of Nordre Qverne in his confirmation, and that his mothers name in his baptism record is Anne Amundsdatter ties him quite directly to Amund Dittmanssøn an owner of Qverne in the 1700's as his grandfather. And of course the Lieutenant Fridrichsen Heiss as his father
Seventh boy on the left hand page under 1767
Link
I think you can feel fairly comfortable in assuming that your family line extends back as far as the first owner of Kverne who was born around 1600 and named Ditman.
You can follow the family back on the Geni.com link above and in the Kverne section of the Stokke Bygedbok. See the section under Brukere under Kverne, Nordre.
Stokke
|
Edited by - AntonH on 21/05/2019 22:15:41 |
|
|
|
AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
9301 Posts |
Posted - 21/05/2019 : 23:11:54
|
I have not spent much time on Swedish genealogy but Ancestry.com does have a good section on Swdish baptisms. I think that this is the baptism for your Magnus born in 1811
Magnus Eriksson
in the Sweden, Select Baptisms, 1611-1920
Name: Magnus Eriksson
Gender: Male
Baptism Date: 22 sep 1811
Baptism Place: Björlanda, Göteborg och Bohus, Sweden
Father: Erik Roos
Mother: Nelia Öjarsdotter
FHL Film Number: 132772
Reference ID: item C1 p 99
Born September 11, 1811
Married Inga Olsdatter in 1836
Magnus Ericsson
in the Sweden, Select Marriages, 1630-1920
Name: Magnus Ericsson
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 17 dec 1836
Marriage Place: Björlanda, Göteborg Och Bohus, Sweden
Spouse: Inga Olsdotter
FHL Film Number: 132772
Reference ID: Item C1 p 238
Probably died in 1885.
Magnus Eriksson
in the Sweden, Indexed Death Records, 1840-1947
Name: Magnus Eriksson
[Magnus Ros]
Gender: Man (Male)
Age: 73
Birth Date: abt 1812
Death Date: 16 feb 1885
Death Place: Björlanda, Göteborg och Bohus (Västra Götaland), Sverige (Sweden)
GID Number: 100014.91.55100
Roll Number: SC-858
The marriage of his father and mother in 1810
Erik Olsson Roos
in the Sweden, Select Marriages, 1630-1920
Name: Erik Olsson Roos
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 30 mar 1810
Marriage Place: Bjorlanda, Goteborg Och Bohus, Sweden
Spouse: Nelia Oyarsdr
FHL Film Number: 132772
Reference ID: 2:RCKQTM
 |
Edited by - AntonH on 22/05/2019 00:30:02 |
|
|
|
joanforsythe
Starting member
Canada
7 Posts |
Posted - 23/05/2019 : 03:32:07
|
Dear Lyndal 40.
I want to thank you very much for all the information that you have found on the two branches of my Norwegian/Swedish roots.
If you were into Irish, Scottish and Welsh I would be all set !!
Many thanks again. Sincerely, Joan Patton Forsythe |
Joan E Forsythe |
|
|
|
Topic |
|
Anders Johannson family Stokke Norway
