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Jdkrags
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Posted - 13/09/2019 : 04:53:02
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I’m trying to find my 3x great grandfather’s passenger list to America. I saw on a Geni tree that someone had him leaving from Trondheim in May of 1882, but the 1910 US Census says he arrived in 1885. He was born 23 Apr 1858 in Stadsbygd. Let me know if you need more info on him and I’ll try and give it to you. |
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jkmarler
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Hopkins
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Posted - 13/09/2019 : 12:47:32
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The 1900 and 1910 censuses both put him in Norman Co. Minnesota. The 1900 notes that he has 'papers applied' for naturalization and the 1910 notes that he is now a naturalized citizen. Norman Co. Minnesota naturalization records, first papers, petition, declaration of intention and final papers formats, are in the LDS Familysearch.org catalog and available for you to scan through probably from home. https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/2524811?availability=Family%20History%20Library
The various filings for US naturalization often contain the applicants detail record of how they arrived in the country, sometimes even including the name of the ship and exact date of arrival.
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ToreL
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Posted - 13/09/2019 : 14:32:13
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According to this site, his brother Paul emigrated in May 1886:
http://www.hemneslekt.net/getperson.php?personID=I101700&tree=Hemne#cite1
I see this information is also recorded in the Cox/Kragnes family tree on Ancestry, according to which the brothers Paul and Ole married two sisters, so it looks like searching for one may well lead to the other. |
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ToreL
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/09/2019 : 17:17:53
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Paul leaving Trondheim.
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Not an easy find
Paul Koeknes in the Pennsylvania, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1800-1962 Name: Paul Koeknes Gender: Male Arrival Age: 30 Birth Date: abt 1856 Birth Place: Germany Last Residence: Germany Departure Place: Liverpool, England Arrival Date: 6 Jun 1886 Arrival Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA Ship: Illinois
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/09/2019 : 17:46:14
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Probable Ole leaving Trondheim in 1882
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Edited by - AntonH on 13/09/2019 21:44:13 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 13/09/2019 : 17:55:16
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From the thru 2010 Norman County Obituary Index: Kragess, Ole 4, 366 Kragnes, Alvin O. 8, 54 Kragnes, Eugene Alvin 15, 64 Kragness, Earl L. 8, 357 Kragness, John A. 5, 418 Kragness, Joseph Palmer 5, 150 Kragness, Martin O. 8, 117 Kragness, Palmer 2, 280 Kragness, Rena Emma (Mrs. Olaf) 3, 299 Kragness, Renna Emma (nee: Brekke) 1A , 127
Here's the policy on ordering: https://sites.rootsweb.com/~mnnorman/Obituary/Lookuppolicy3-13.htm
K 1871-1922 Deceased Name DOD YOD Ind Book Page Line Notes Norman County Death Index: Kragnes, Olga Sophie Aug. 27 1910 1 2 60 23 Krognes, Karen Martha Apr. 19 1909 1 2 60 14 Krognes, Lydia Johanna Nov. 12 1909 1 2 60 17 Krogness, __________ (Baby) Oct. 12 1908 1 2 62 78 Premature Krogness, Bennie Selmer Aug. 26 1919 1 3 117 61 Lee Krogness, Olive Margette Mar. 11 1891 1 1 21 27 Krogness, Sofie Bergette Mar. 10 1891 1 1 21 26
K (continued) 1923-1982 Deceased Name DOD YOD Ind Book Page Line S/N Notes Kragness, John A.Oct. 16 1970 2 5 468 7 3258 Kragness, Olaf Sept. 28 1933 2 4 57 37 Halstad Village Kragness, Paul Jan. 16 1927 2 4 19 69 Lee Kragness, Rena Emma Jan. 12 1950 2 5 72 5 495 Krogness, Julia June 15 1929 2 4 32 65 Lee |
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ToreL
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jkmarler
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Posted - 13/09/2019 : 19:19:28
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And Ada, Minnesota his destination is in Norman County, Minnesota. |
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ToreL
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Posted - 13/09/2019 : 19:40:25
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And his future wife Karen left in 1887, with the same destination. (And the same origin in Ritsen.) Bottom of page:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/em20110302621054
She is entered as Karen Johnsen Nøst, matching the fact that her father was Peder Johnsen Nøst. |
Edited by - ToreL on 13/09/2019 19:55:07 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/09/2019 : 21:55:54
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A tough one. I did notice that a passenger next to Ole Arntsen posted by Tore is named Mathilde Elden. I did find a likely candidate for her
Name: M Elden Gender: Female Arrival Age: 19 Birth Date: abt 1863 Departure Place: Liverpool, England Arrival Date: 28 May 1882 Arrival Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA Ship: British Prince
Right below M Elden are Nic Dahl and her child, also found near Ole in the post by Tore.
But no Ole Arntsen or name even close on that ship. The closest is a
O Rindal in the Pennsylvania, Passenger and Crew Lists, 1800-1962 Name: O Rindal Gender: Male Arrival Age: 22 Birth Date: abt 1860 Departure Place: Liverpool, England Arrival Date: 28 May 1882 Arrival Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA Ship: British Prince |
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ToreL
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Posted - 13/09/2019 : 22:55:52
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This looks like Karen's arrival, although
1) the record says male but I read the original as Karen, which is definitely a female, and 2) the (North Sea plus) Atlantic crossing was awfully quick if I read the dates correctly:
Name: Karon J Nost Gender: Male Arrival Age: 22 Birth Date: abt 1865 Birth Place: Sweden Last Residence: Sweden Departure Place: Liverpool, England Arrival Date: 8 Jun 1887 Arrival Place: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA Ship: Lord Gough |
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AntonH
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Posted - 13/09/2019 : 23:09:28
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Interesting that all of the finds yours and my two arrived in Philadelphia.
Usually give about ten days or more to make the trip. Seven days is very fast, but I agree it is certainly her. The list of passengers from Digitalakviet shows an Ole Johns. and family next to Karen and they are also found on the sam ship as Karen on page 375 of the manifest.
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ToreL
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ToreL
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Posted - 14/09/2019 : 00:32:39
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Assuming that the son of Arnt Anderson uses the Anderson surname, here is a possible arrival for Ole in USA. Ship British King:
Name Ole Anderson Birth abt 1859 Departure Liverpool, England Arrival 22 May 1882 Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, USA |
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