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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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 Posted - 14/09/2019 : 17:57:50
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| Getting more information from Ole's naturalization might solve this issue about which of the many Ole Arntson / Krognes/ Anderson records might apply as Hopkins stated early on.,,, |
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Jdkrags
Medium member
USA
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Posted - 15/09/2019 : 03:42:46
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| So those emigration records for Ole and Karen from Norway look correct to me. I think the only question now is which is the correct immigration record for Ole, because that one for Karen on the speedy trip looks good to me also. I’m puzzled as to why they put Sweden as her birthplace and Germany as the birthplace for Paul. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
7790 Posts |
Posted - 15/09/2019 : 04:05:40
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| At the time they came. the king of Sweden was also the king of Norway, roughly 1814-1905. They or the agent who wrote the list might have thought of them as Swedes. Don't know about Paul's story. But as much as people pursue the travel records, the records themselves have the least amount of information and with the greatest likelihood of inaccuracy until later. |
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Hopkins
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 15/09/2019 : 21:43:48
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"Why" questions at this distance of time are usually impossible to discern.
If you are looking at ARRIVAL records at a North American port be aware that those lists were created before the ship had actually arrived, usually created by the ship's purser or his designee en route. |
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Jdkrags
Medium member
USA
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Posted - 16/09/2019 : 16:05:41
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| Oh I didn’t know that was how those were made. The index for Ole from Trondheim said that his ship was the “Dampsk. Hero” build by American Line. I wasn’t able to find that ship on this website although I did find the line and ship but not together. Plus, the immigration record doesn’t have that ship as his vessel and it said he was destined for Ada but landed in Philadelphia first. |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
USA
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Posted - 16/09/2019 : 18:33:08
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| The Hero was most likely a "feeder ship" taking Ole to England for a larger trans Atlantic vessel. |
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ToreL
Advanced member
Norway
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Posted - 16/09/2019 : 18:44:13
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Exactly. As I was about to write:
The ship leaving Trondheim was likely not the same as the one arriving in USA. As I intepret this page, the normal route for Norwegian emigrants in the 1880s was a two-day crossing from Norway to England with one ship, (in this case presumably followed by a train travel from East to West in England,) followed by voyage across the Atlantic on a larger ocean liner. The steamship Hero was operated by the Wilson Line, and apparently took emigrants from Trondheim, Kristiansund and Ålesund to Hull. |
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ToreL
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Posted - 16/09/2019 : 18:50:29
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Advertisement in a Christiansund newspaper, where Hero had a landing on its way from Trondheim to Hull.
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Jdkrags
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Posted - 16/09/2019 : 20:18:17
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| Yeah that makes a lot of sense. I’ll have to make a trip back the the MN Historical Society’s archives sometime very soon to possibly obtain a copy of Ole’s naturalization to provide more info to narrow down the results. |
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Jdkrags
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Ole Arntsen Krogness
