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Kaiser
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 Posted - 03/12/2019 : 18:37:04
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Before presenting this case I’d like to express my gratitude to those patient and altruistic members of this forum who has helped me to solve previous issues hoping luck will strike again.
The couple had 2 kids born in Norway, Olga in 1894 and Osvald in 1899. Here is a link https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01036940001489
They emigrated to America and Osvald anglicised to Oswald. The unfortunate son of Oswald posted this unanswered thread at digitalarkivet.no:
Trying to locate blood relatives of my father, Oswald Johann Maarsund. I was adopted and renamed Robert Lincoln Gabardy. My Mother and Oswald were divorced and he returned to Norway in the early 1920's. I have never seen him. My father was last heard from in 1929, in a letter to my Step-Grandmother. He was living with an Aunt in Trondheim. Can anyone out there help me?
Here we see that Oswald had Maarsund as family name which is the place where the grandmother Johanna came from and the children were born. They might all have had Maarsund as their family name. As we can see the parents divorced and father Olai returned to Norway and Oswald at least was put up for adoption.
Their mother Johanna’s full name was Johanna Bergitte Wilhelmine Andrine Sakariasdatter and Andersen from her first marriage. A search for Johanna Bergitte Wilhelmine Andrine Sakariasdatter Gjelland gives this hit at myheritage.com
https://www.myheritage.no/search-records?action=person&siteId=327661851&indId=1500346&origin=profile
If it’s her she seems to have remarried again and her new family name is Jakobsen which I barely can read from the grave memorial. Full information here is only for paying members.
My first question is if someone can confirm if this is the mother of Oswald and Olga and provide more details on her life as a Jakobsen. Did she have more children? Did she marry a 4th time with more children? Where did she live and when and where did she die?
There is an odd feeling when trying to study this that Olga and Oswald were put up for adoption to different families and lost contact. In Oswald’s thread sister Olga isn’t mentioned at all. I’d like to learn if they were adopted to the same family or split and who the new guardians were? If there are declassified child protection documents I’d like to learn about them too.
Olga married Delmer Carl Hill and had 2 daughters. One of them Donna M Hill was born 1923 and I’m wondering if she died young or started a family? |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 03/12/2019 : 20:07:17
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Here is a link to an Oswald Johan Maarsund crossing into US from Canada in 1940:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XGTB-83D
Clearly Oswald knew about what happened to Olga as he lists her as his nearest relative in WWI draft registration card in 10 Sept 1919:
image: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-918L-9QB6?i=2568&cc=1968530&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AK87V-KB5
abstraction: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:K87V-KB5
It appears he is laboring on a farm for D.C. Hill, Olga's husband?
He is also in this family tree database at familysearch.org, listing as married in US and dying in 1979.:
https://www.familysearch.org/tree/pedigree/landscape/LTJD-9JG
Is there more than one Oswald J O Maarsund as the Seattle Daily Times Thursday, Mar 09, 1950 Seattle, WA Page: 40 col 3 "Deaths" gives the information he died 6 March 1950, age 51 resident of 8277 Shaughnessy Street ?
Well his death certificate is available at familysearch.org:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DY7S-J5R
His parents are not known, his address at Shaughnessy street is where he lived in Vancouver, BC, engaged as a fisherman, and is married.
He married Ruby Mae Tomlinson in Washington in 1934:
image: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GTM9-S9G3?cc=1534448&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3AQP93-GMHD
abstract: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QP93-GMHD
His parents are named in the document but their names suffered in the reading of the handwriting, etc. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 03/12/2019 20:37:08 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 03/12/2019 : 21:04:00
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Olga Maarsund married D.C. Hill in Minnesota. This from MOMS:
MARSHALL F-581 02/24/1918 HILL, D. C. MAARSUND, OLGA
By 1930 they are living in Oil City, Venango county, Pennsylvania:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XHHX-4J5
Olga in FAG:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/70191140
It includes an obituary but of course, Oswald is not mentioned since he died 8 years earlier.
Here's the FAG obit:
Mrs. Olga Hill
Funeral services for Mrs. Olga Hill were held at 2:30 p.m. Sunday in the Charles A. Morrison Funeral Home. Mrs. Hill died Thursday.
Rev. Harold Himes, pastor of the Bethal Methodist Church, officiated at the rite and internment took place in the Heckathorn Cemetery.
Pallbearers were Louis Birso, John Getz, Howard Buchanan, Elmer Beach, Willard Bolyon and Donald Feago.
Those attending the service from out-of-town were Mr. and Mrs. Harry Reese, Beverly, Thomas and Harry Reese, Jr., all of Oammonsburg, Mr. and Mrs. Paul Exley of Erie.
(Obituary in The Derrick (Oil City, PA), Dec. 15, 1958, page 7)
Since the out of town visitors to Olga's funeral include the Harry Reese family (daughter Grace was married to Harry Reese) maybe Mrs Paul Exley is the other daughter?
There is a Paul Exley b 1920 living in Venango county, Pennsylvania in 1940:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KQ7Z-7C2
Paul Exley in FAG:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/119716186
Donna Mae Exley in FAG:
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/119716213/donna-mae-exley
Donna M Exley in US Public Records database in Erie Pennsylvania (and also after her given date of death in FAG):
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KR75-LTD |
Edited by - jkmarler on 03/12/2019 21:44:13 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 03/12/2019 : 21:47:25
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Here is some further info on the Oswald J Maarsund, Jackie found living in Seattle
Oswald J Maarsund
in the Utah, Select County Marriages, 1887-1937
Name: Oswald J Maarsund
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 7 Apr 1920
Marriage Place: Weber, Utah, United States
Father: Olai Maarsund
Mother: Johanna Sakariason
Spouse: Rhoda M Myers
FHL Film Number: 1670862
Oswald J Maarsund
in the Washington, Marriage Records, 1854-2013
Name: Oswald J Maarsund
Marriage Date: 15 Oct 1934
Marriage Place: Spokane, Spokane, Washington, USA
Spouse: Ruby M Toulinson
No evidence that he lived until 1879?
Oswald Johan Olaisen Maarsund
in the Washington, Select Death Certificates, 1907-1960
Name: Oswald Johan Olaisen Maarsund
Gender: Male
Age: 51
Estimated birth year: abt 1899
Death Date: 6 Mar 1950
Death Place: Seattle, King, Washington
FHL Film Number: 2032907
Reference ID: 4191
Man did seem to get around North America.
Oswald John Maarsund
in the Canada, Voters Lists, 1935-1980
Name: Oswald John Maarsund
Occupation: Mechanic
Year: 1935
Location: Kootenay West, British Columbia, Canada
Electoral District: Kootenay West
Oswald Johan Maarsund
in the Web: Minnesota, Naturalization Index, 1849-1985
Naturalization Record
FIRST NAME: OSWALD JOHAN
LAST NAME: MAARSUND
LOCATION: VIRGINIA
COUNTY: St. Louis
STATE: MINNESOTA
CODE: 216
REEL: 8
VOLUME: 14
PAGE: 129
Link IRRRB |
Edited by - AntonH on 03/12/2019 21:59:04 |
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ToreL
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Posted - 03/12/2019 : 22:03:26
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Osvald and Olga's parents were both widowed when they married on Sept. 12 1894 (#10). Olga was baptised three days later (#37), and Olsvald was baptised on March 3 1899 (#28).
Osvald's baptism record and the 1950 death certificate match perfectly and beyond any doubt concern the same person.
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Edited by - ToreL on 03/12/2019 22:21:27 |
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ToreL
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Posted - 03/12/2019 : 22:14:30
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Johanna Bergitta's baptism. #53. Note Fjærvold, referred to in the marriage record.
Not as many first names as on the Myheritage page, but much of the other info there looks right. |
Edited by - ToreL on 03/12/2019 22:25:04 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 03/12/2019 : 22:17:06
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I found the following marriages for Johanne Birgethe Zakariasdr
Johanne Birgethe Zakariasdr
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Johanne Birgethe Zakariasdr
[Johanne Birgethe Jakobsen]
Gender: Female
Age: 24
Birth Date: 1857
Marriage Date: 21 jul 1881
Marriage Place: , Bo, Nordland, Norway
Father: Zakarias Jakobsen
Spouse: Ove Martin Andersen
FHL Film Number: 1282786
#2
Johanna Bergitte Sakariasdatter
in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926
Name: Johanna Bergitte Sakariasdatter
[Johanna Bergitte Jakobsen]
Gender: Female
Age: 37
Birth Date: 1857
Birth Place: Fjaervold
Marriage Date: 12 sep 1894
Marriage Place: Bø, Nordland, Norway
Father: Sakarias Jakobsen
Spouse: Gjert Olai Mikkelsen
FHL Film Number: 307086
Reference ID: vol K5
Original posted by Tore above
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If it’s her she seems to have remarried again and her new family name is Jakobsen which I barely can read from the grave memorial. Full information here is only for paying members
I think the name Jacobson does not arise from a third marriage but rather from the use of her fathers last name. |
Edited by - AntonH on 03/12/2019 22:25:53 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 03/12/2019 : 22:27:33
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Johanna in the 1891 Norwegian Census with first husband and several children.
Johanna Sakariasdtr
in the 1891 Norway CensusName: Johanna Sakariasdtr
Gender: Kvinne (Female)
Marital status: Gift (Married)
Relation to Head: Hustru (Wife)
Kinship with Husband: Nei
Birth Date: 1857
Residence Place: Bø i V., Bø, Nordland, Norge (Norway)
Nationality: Norsk
Counting District Number: 3
Houselist Number: 57
Person Number: 2
Household Members:
Name Relation to Head
Ove Andersen Familiens overhode (Head)
Johanna Sakariasdtr Hustru (Wife)
Anton Ovesse Søn (Son)
Serine Ovesdtr Datter (Daughter)
Oluffa Ovesdtr Datter (Daughter)
Sigurd Ovessen Søn (Son)
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ToreL
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842 Posts |
Posted - 03/12/2019 : 22:33:06
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 03/12/2019 : 22:37:14
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Likely Oswald when he applied for naturalization.
Name: Oswald Maaromiel
[Oswald Moarsuned]
Age: 20
Birth Year: abt 1900
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1920: Hibbing, St Louis, Minnesota
Street: Sellers
Residence Date: 1920
Race: White
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1917
Relation to Head of House: Lodger
Marital status: Single
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Native Tongue: Norwegian
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: Laborer
Industry: Iron Shop
Employment Field: Wage or Salary
Able to Read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes |
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ToreL
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Posted - 03/12/2019 : 22:39:52
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quote:
Originally posted by lyndal40
I think the name Jacobson does not arise from a third marriage but rather from the use of her fathers last name.
Johanna and Olai's wedding record states that both are entering their second marriage. |
Edited by - ToreL on 03/12/2019 22:43:03 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/12/2019 : 00:48:26
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There is a Robert Gabardy with a Minnesota connection. Born aboout 1922 in Minnesota, living in Hibbing, Minnesota in 1940 census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KS2Q-4JV
That must have been an old post at Digitalarkivet as this appears to be Robert in SSDI:
Name: Robert L. Gabardy
State of Issue: Minnesota
Date of Birth: Tuesday May 17, 1921
Date of Death: Tuesday March 23, 2010
Est. Age at Death: 88 years, 10 months, 6 days
Confirmation: Proven
Last known residence:
City: Fountain Hills; Scottsdale
County: Maricopa
State: Arizona
ZIP Code: 85268
MOMS found only 1 Maarsund marriage, Olga's already posted. This is a list of MOMS finds for any marriage from the beginning of the St. Louis county records in the database to 31 Dec 1922 of men whose first name is Oswald (there were no Osvald):
ST. LOUIS T14-041 06/08/1904 TVEDT, OSWALD G BEDELL, WINFRID P
ST. LOUIS R2-132 09/11/1916 RINGSRED, OSWALD W HEALY, KATHRYN P
ST. LOUIS X1-030 07/02/1913 ROEN, OSWALD WHITELY, ANNA
ST. LOUIS T41-252 01/29/1910 CARLSEN, OSWALD SKGELBOSTAD, HANNA
ST. LOUIS B3-032 03/09/1918 SALVERSON, OSWALD OSCAR KOHLER, GERTRUDE
ST. LOUIS A4-094 11/30/1921 HUGHES, OSWALD L BROTHERTON, AGNES R |
Edited by - jkmarler on 04/12/2019 01:24:27 |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/12/2019 : 01:45:06
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Ancestry Tree
Robert Lincoln Gabardy
1921–2010
BIRTH 17 MAY 1921 • Hubbard, Minnesota, USA
DEATH 23 MAR 2010 • Fountain Hills, Maricopa, Arizona, USA
wife is
May Muriel Rossetter
1923–1998
BIRTH 5 JANUARY 1923 • Minnesota
DEATH 29 AUG 1998 • Fountain Hills, Maricopa, Arizona, United States of America
Some records for Robert
Carol May Gabardy
in the Virginia, Marriage Records, 1936-2014
Name: Carol May Gabardy
Gender: Female
Race: White
Age: 19
Birth Date: 23 Dec 1948
Marriage Registration Place: Fairfax, Virginia, USA
Marriage Date: 24 Aug 1968
Marriage Place: Clifton, Virginia, USA
Father: Robert Lincoln Gabardy
Mother: May Muriel Rossetter
Spouse: Richard Lee Thomas
Robert Lincoln Gabardy
in the Web: Minnesota, Birth Index, 1900-1934
Name: Robert Lincoln Gabardy
Birth Date: 17 May 1921
Birth Place: Hubbard, Minnesota, USA
Father's Surname: Gabardy
Mother's Maiden Name: Myers
Certificate Number: 1921-13192
May Muriel Rossetter
in the Web: Minnesota, Birth Index, 1900-1934
Name: May Muriel Rossetter
Birth Date: 5 Jan 1923
Birth Place: St. Louis, Minnesota, USA
Father's Surname: Rossetter
Mother's Maiden Name: Bauer
Certificate Number: 1923-30586
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Edited by - AntonH on 04/12/2019 01:48:18 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 04/12/2019 : 01:52:57
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quote:
MOMS found only 1 Maarsund marriage, Olga's already posted. This is a list of MOMS finds for any marriage from the beginning of the St. Louis county records in the database to 31 Dec 1922 of men whose first name is Oswald (there were no Osvald):
Oswald J Maarsund
in the Utah, Select County Marriages, 1887-1937
Name: Oswald J Maarsund
Gender: Male
Marriage Date: 7 Apr 1920
Marriage Place: Weber, Utah, United States
Father: Olai Maarsund
Mother: Johanna Sakariason
Spouse: Rhoda M Myers
FHL Film Number: 1670862
Oswald J Maarsund
in the Washington, Marriage Records, 1854-2013
Name: Oswald J Maarsund
Marriage Date: 15 Oct 1934
Marriage Place: Spokane, Spokane, Washington, USA
Spouse: Ruby M Toulinson
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 04/12/2019 : 01:59:39
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Based on the Ancestry.com Tree.
Rhoda Myers married Oswald Maarsund in Utah in 1920. And then had the child known as Robert Lincoln Gabardy 7 MAY 1921.
She then married Arthur Lincoln Garbady 1 OCT 1924 in HIbbing, Minnesota
Betty Arlene Gabardy
in the Web: Minnesota, Birth Index, 1900-1934
Name: Betty Arlene Gabardy
Birth Date: 22 Dec 1925
Birth Place: St. Louis, Minnesota, USA
Father's Surname: Gabardy
Mother's Maiden Name: Myers
Certificate Number: 1925-28695 |
Edited by - AntonH on 04/12/2019 02:04:21 |
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Kaiser
Junior member
Norway
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Posted - 04/12/2019 : 02:42:34
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Olai and Johanna Gjeltland/Gjelland - New version
Before presenting this case I’d like to express my gratitude to those patient and altruistic members of this forum who has helped me to solve previous issues hoping luck will strike again.
However the first version of this thread was terribly wrong due to some generation confusion but hopefully this one is better.
The couple had 2 kids born in Norway, Olga in 1894 and Osvald in 1899. Here is a link https://www.digitalarkivet.no/census/person/pf01036940001489
They emigrated to America and Osvald anglicised to Oswald. The unfortunate son of Oswald posted this unanswered thread at digitalarkivet.no:
Trying to locate blood relatives of my father, Oswald Johann Maarsund. I was adopted and renamed Robert Lincoln Gabardy. My Mother and Oswald were divorced and he returned to Norway in the early 1920's. I have never seen him. My father was last heard from in 1929, in a letter to my Step-Grandmother. He was living with an Aunt in Trondheim. Can anyone out there help me?
Here we see that Oswald had Maarsund as family name which is the place where his mother Johanna came from and Oswald and Olga were born. They might all have had Maarsund as their family name. As we know Oswald returned to Norway and his son was put up for adoption.
Olga and Oswald’s mother Johanna’s fulll name was Johanna Bergitte Wilhelmine Andrine Sakariasdatter and Andersen from her first marriage. A search for her with Gjelland as family name gives this hit at myheritage.com
https://www.myheritage.no/search-records?action=person&siteId=327661851&indId=1500346&origin=profile
If it’s her she must have divorced from Olai and her new family name is Jakobsen which I barely can read from the grave memorial. Full information here is only for paying members.
My first question is if someone can confirm if this is the mother of Oswald and Olga and provide more details on her life as a Jakobsen. Did she start a new family with children? Where did she live and when and where did she die?
If this is correct what happened to her former husband Olai? Did he start a new family and when and where did he die?
Oswald’s son was renamed to Robert Lincoln Gabardy. What was his original name?
Olga married Delmer Carl Hill and had 2 daughters. One of them Donna M Hill was born 1923 and I’m wondering if she died young or started a family? |
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