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RENEE PIGEON
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 Posted - 14/03/2021 : 20:12:33
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Thank you both very much for this research, it is quite fascinating and I appreciate your help. 
JWiborg, can you tell me the source of the description of the shipwrecked young man and the boat drifting in the ice that you shared? A very striking image. |
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jwiborg
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Posted - 14/03/2021 : 21:20:51
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Originally posted by RENEE PIGEON
Thank you both very much for this research, it is quite fascinating and I appreciate your help.
JWiborg, can you tell me the source of the description of the shipwrecked young man and the boat drifting in the ice that you shared? A very striking image.
The story was found in Finmarken, onsdag 18. august 1909.
However, I see now that a later edition (Finmarken, lørdag 28. august 1909), says the man has been identified as coming from Finland, and not from Taraldsens ship.
Also an interesting article about the search in Romsdals Amtstidende, fredag 6. august 1909. |
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RENEE PIGEON
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Posted - 14/03/2021 : 22:01:30
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JWiborg, can you tell me the source of the description of the shipwrecked young man and the boat drifting in the ice that you shared? A very striking image.[/quote]
The story was found in Finmarken, onsdag 18. august 1909.
However, I see now that a later edition (Finmarken, lørdag 28. august 1909), says the man has been identified as coming from Finland, and not from Taraldsens ship.
Also an interesting article about the search in Romsdals Amtstidende, fredag 6. august 1909.
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Thanks! I was given family history notes by a distant cousin several years ago, a descendant of Mikal Taraldsen's youngest uncle Hartvig Rasmussen, who emigrated to the US; he took in my grandmother when she emigrated in 1909. His notes had no background at all on Randine except for her name; he notes: "Michael/Mikal Tharalsen (Larsen) was found frozen to death in Spitzbergen in 1908." The 1908 date must be in error since clearly the searches appear to have been ongoing in 1909, and the book *Menn av is og kulde: Kampen om Svalbard* says (my translation) "information from multiple Russians suggest[s] that Taraldsen and his entire crew of ten men, four Norwegians and six Russians, all probably perished during a storm in late autumn 1908. The Swan and Gurda come back to Vardo in October 1909 within a few days [of each other] after having been gone for 12-14 months." I think perhaps the "found frozen" must have been reported by my grandmother, and I wonder if she was just mistaken--but she was 14 by 1909, and you'd think she would know if he were never found. It's curious! I also think I have the facsimile of the original notes somewhere--I am quoting above from the descendant's transcription above. Perhaps it just says "frozen" rather than "found frozen," and "Spitsbergen" is an error for Novya Semyla.
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jwiborg
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Posted - 14/03/2021 : 23:00:36
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Yes, all newpaper articles from autumn of 1909, concludes that Taraldsens ship "sunk last fall", ie autumn of 1908. I have not seen any report of any finding of ship or crew in the years after.
And they're all quite clear that it must have happened near Novaya Zemlya, although no wreckage was found.
Svalbard/Spitsbergen is Norwegian territory, while Novaya Zemlya belongs to Russia.
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RENEE PIGEON
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Posted - 14/03/2021 : 23:32:56
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| That all makes sense, and seems quite conclusive. This family story was what first interested me in genealogy about 17 years ago, so I truly appreciate all these additional details about the loss of Mikal, and the tracing of Randine's history, as she has always been a bit of a mystery other than the Vardo years. |
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jwiborg
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 15/03/2021 : 00:53:30
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Originally posted by RENEE PIGEON
In 1895, according to FamilySearch, Peter Mathias married a Swedish widow, Eva Mathilde Norum nee Salomonsen (although I can’t find this marriage in the digital archive):
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7B4-91C
I also have not found a marriage record for Randine and Mikal, but the baptism records and the census do list them as married, unlike the records for Randine and Peter.
Thanks again for all your help!
The marriage for Peter & Eva were filed under section "vd" (married dissidenters): 6-NOV-1895.
The priest has also noted that he died 1933 and she 1927 (in case of widow's pension or a new marriage license).
A dissident is a person who actively challenges an established political or religious system, doctrine, belief, policy, or institution.
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RENEE PIGEON
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Posted - 15/03/2021 : 04:04:03
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[/quote]The marriage for Peter & Eva were filed under section "vd" (married dissidenters): 6-NOV-1895.
The priest has also noted that he died 1933 and she 1927 (in case of widow's pension or a new marriage license).
A dissident is a person who actively challenges an established political or religious system, doctrine, belief, policy, or institution.
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Ah, interesting! And I see that section of the Vardo churchbook is not yet searchable and must be browsed. |
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