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AntonH
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Posted - 25/03/2021 : 21:09:47
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This version of the marriage record gives the fathers name as Johannes.
Hans Ludvig Mikkelsen in the Norway Marriages, 1600s-1800s Name: Hans Ludvig Mikkelsen Age: 19 years Gender: Male Birth Date: Ca.1840 Marriage Date: 13 jun 1859 Marriage Place: Oslo, Akershus, Norway Spouse: Anne Marie Eriksdr Spouse's Age: 17 years Spouse's Gender: Female Spouse's Birth Date: Ca.1842 Father: Johannes Mikkelsen Spouse's Father: Erik Thoresen Spouse's Mother: Marthe Olsdr
This version matches the record from Jackie
Hans Ludvig Mikkelsen in the Norway, Church Records, 1812-1938 Name: Hans Ludvig Mikkelsen Marriage Age: 19 Record Type: ekteskap (Marriage) Birth Date: abt 1840 Birth Place: Asihin Marriage Date: 13 jun 1859 Marriage Place: Oslo Domkirke / Vår Frelsers, Oslo, Norge (Norway) Marriage Municipality: Oslo Entry Number: 58 Father: Johanne Mikkelsen Spouse: Anne marie Eriksdtr
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AntonH
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Posted - 25/03/2021 : 21:16:14
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The only one I could find.
Hans Ludvig Johannesen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Hans Ludvig Johannesen Gender: Male Birth Date: 4 nov 1839 Baptism Date: 15 mar 1840 Baptism Place: Garnison Menighet, Oslo, Akershus, Norway Father: Johannes Mikkelsen Mother: Dorthea Christine Olsdr FHL Film Number: 255742 Reference ID: 2:10F4MPJ
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https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20061009050522
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AntonH
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Posted - 25/03/2021 : 21:32:16
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Looks like Hans Ludvig had at least two brothers
Fredrik Johannesen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Fredrik Johannesen Gender: Male Birth Date: 6 des 1845 (6 Dec 1845) Baptism Date: 5 apr 1846 Baptism Place: Garnison Menighet, Oslo, Akershus, Norway Father: Johannes Mikkelsen Mother: Dorthea Christine Olsdr FHL Film Number: 255742 Reference ID: 2:10F6KM2
Otto Johannesen in the Norway, Select Baptisms, 1634-1927 Name: Otto Johannesen Gender: Male Birth Date: 26 jul 1835 Baptism Date: 20 sep 1835 Baptism Place: Garnison Menighet, Oslo, Akershus, Norway Father: Johannes Mikkelsen Mother: Dorthea Christine Olsdr FHL Film Number: 255742 Reference ID: 2:10F4BJX
And several sisters
Christine Amalia Johannesdatter 1837
Birgitte Marie Johannesdatter 1833
Vilhelmine Julie Johannesdatter 1832
Johannes Mikkelsen in the Norway, Select Marriages, 1660-1926 Name: Johannes Mikkelsen Gender: Male Marriage Date: 30 des 1831 (30 Dec 1831) Marriage Place: Garnison Menighet, Oslo, Akershus, Norway Spouse: Dorothea Christine Olsdr FHL Film Number: 255742
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jkmarler
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Posted - 25/03/2021 : 23:18:48
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The most likely age wise to be Carrie is she: Ragna Christine was born 8 Apr 1859 # 142 SAO, Oslo domkirke Kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0015: Parish register (official) no. 15, 1857-1871, p. 130 Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060216010137
But she is not with the family in the 1865 census....
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AntonH
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Posted - 26/03/2021 : 02:58:04
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Okay possible but Louis and his family have a nephew living with them in 1880 and grandma living with them in 1865 (and possibly in 1880 as well.) Would they have not had their daughter with them at some time?
I wonder what happened and who is the Marie Michels. leaving with them?
But here is a Ragna Christine Mikkelsen death: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/267/pg00000003628401
#86 3 year old Ragna Christine SAO, Gamle Aker prestekontor Kirkebøker, F/L0001: Parish register (official) no. 1, 1861-1865, p. 210 Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060228030961
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jkmarler
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 21:44:05
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Same search only with no first name specified finds these: Name Birth date Place of birth Position and marital status Domicile Event date Role Source Marie Nikkelsen (female) 1861 1893 mor Church book from Rikshospitalet parish 1892-1895 (0301E6)
Oline Nikkelsen (female) 1858* 1882-03-07 mor Church book from Rikshospitalet parish 1877-1884 (0301E6)
Agneke Nikkelsen (female) 1864 1893-04-30 mor Church book from Rikshospitalet parish 1892-1895 (0301E6)
Karen Nikkelsen F. Johnsen (female) 1865 L. Bureded 1896-05-03 mor Church book from Laksevåg parish 1891-1903 (1248Q)
Nikoline Nikkelsen (female) 1857 Skaadø Skaadø Sogn Tjenestepige ug Tjenestepige Kragerø: Hovedbyen 1875-12-31 1875 census for 0801P Kragerø
Lars Anders Nikkelsen Roska (female) 1863 Næsseby 1889-05-01 mor Church book from Nesseby parish, Nesseby local parish 1885-1985 (2027P)
Magdalene Marie Nikkelsen (female) 1865 Aeligaden 1890-08-15 mor Church book from Johannes parish 1885-1900 (1301M6)
Yes Lars is labelled as female the data was entered as father in mother column--Humans! |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 28/03/2021 : 23:59:45
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Johan Gottfred Nickelsen returns Oslo citizenship: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/37/pc00000000000401
Is the father of numerous children baptized in Oslo: Signe Marie in 1832: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000038344209
Didrik Johannes Otto in 1834: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000038991273
Martha b abt 1835: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000038561229
Diderik Oluf in 1838: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000039243654
Hanne Christiane in 1839: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000039242037
Johannes in 1840: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000039245103
Anne Lovise in 1841: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000039246381
Peter in 1844: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/255/pd00000039249858
All newspaper references to Johan G Nickelsen stop in 1845. His widow Gunhild dies 4 Oct 1880 and there is an announcement by her children. https://www.nb.no/items/dd890486d958e63b11113b243c8855e9?page=1&searchText=%22gunhild%20nickelsen%22
Gunhild's dodsfallsprotokol #1960 gives these details 4 living adult children: one lives in Copenhage Denmark, 1 in New York and 2 live here. There are also 4 grandchildren who live in Copenhagen and "ovrige hersted". Son P. Nickelsen has reported her death.
SAO, Oslo skifterett, G/Ga/Gaa/L0010: Dødsfallsprotokoll, 1878-1880, p. 262b-263a Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/sk20081219320840
But he actually dies sometime in 1877: https://www.nb.no/items/7cf664ed6cb47afc0e31642b72aa4a6b?page=1&searchText=%22gunhild%20nickelsen%22
So son Peter is living in Oslo in 1880, son Johannes is the one in New York: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MZ82-J47
Johannes in New York in 1870: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M8F8-QMV
Johannes in Brooklyn in 1892 working as real estate agent: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQ3X-VHS
Johannes marries Esther Fogerty in New York in 1869: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:24ZT-NPH
This is probably Johannes' death in Brooklyn in 1899: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:2WF3-6MZ
A Surrogate's Notice published in the Brooklyn Daily Eagle on Saturday 30 Dec 1899 page 10 col 7 notices heirs of John Nicholson in the probating of a Last Will & Testament named Esther Nicholson, Alfred Baarsen, Allette Baarsen, Peter Nicholson, Martha Carstenson to be held on 12 Feb 1900.
Esther Nicholson is the widow. In all the censuses she and John appear to have had no children. Alfred and Allette are children of John's sister Hanne. https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038012002571
Martha Carstensen is the one child in Denmark and in 1880 census there she has 3 daughters one of which is named Sophie Katerine aged 16: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL6H-X4NC The transcription gives Martha's maiden name as Nielsen but the actual image looks like Niklsen.
Here is Martha's marriage to Nils Fredrick Carstenson in 1870. Martha's name carried as Nielsen: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/327/pv00000004622222
Sofie Katherine is not in the household in 1890: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QL6K-VJBS
Sofie Catherine #50 b 2 Feb 1863 her mother is Signe Marie Nickelsen and father Nils Fredrik Carstensen. All godparents are relatives: SAO, Trefoldighet prestekontor Kirkebøker, F/Fa/L0001: Ministerialbok nr. I 1, 1858-1863, s. 324 Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20060213061150
Signe Marie Nickelsen dies 13 June 1868: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/view/267/pg00000003690607 So Martha Nickelsen married her sister's widower.
So here it is a bizarre possibility that Carrie Sophie Nicholson is actually this person who went to Canton, Ohio from Denmark in 1881: Navn: Carstensen, Maria Christine Stilling: Tyende (m/k land) Alder: 17 Bestemmelsessted: Canton, Ohio Kontrakt nr.: 395100 Forevisningsdato: 5/23/1881 Sidste oph.sogn: Barrit Sidste oph. amt: Vejle Sidste oph.sted: Barrit, Veile Bestemmelses land: USA Bestemmelses by: Canton Bestemmelses stat: Ohio Skibsnavn: Indirekte IDkode: I8081C2203
Martha Carstensen dies in 1907. Niels F Carstensen dies in 1909. Neither of their death notices mentions any surviving children by name or location.
Marie Christine Carstensen is not a good possible. Name doesn't match (Sofie Katerine or Carrie Sophie). Age and birthdate signficantly differ from Carrie as 29 June 1859 and 3 Apr 1863. Only year of arrival matches
Sophie Catherine Carstenson is out of consideration as she marries a man named Niels Hjorth in 1884 in Denmark.
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