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loyane
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 Posted - 16/04/2021 : 18:41:43
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Dear Listers!
This is one of the biggest challenges I have ever encountered, also since this person is a relative of mine…
I refer to the 1880 census for 394 State street in Chicago, IL where these people lived as boarders:
WILSON, Eva 32 Nor Nor Nor - dressmaker, widowed
WILSON, Lilly 9 IL Nor Nor - daughter, at school
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9YYF-S962
There were two sisters in this Oyane ("Owens/Peterson") family who moved from Crawford Co., WI to Chicago, IL, probably in the mid/late 1860’s, since they are no longer living at home in the 1870-census:
** Ingrid, born in Luster Co., Norway Feb. 21, 1847
** Anna, born in Luster Co., Norway June 21, 1851
The girls are referred to in the probate record for their brother John Henry Owens who died in Yankton, SD Aug. 6, 1924. They were then listed as «Ada BROWN and Mrs. WILSON». The probate court only had a reference saying that Ada Brown was on Lutheran charity in Chicago, IL, while Mrs. Wilson’s whereabouts were unknown. The court informant was a son of an older deceased sister Ingeborg «Emma» SCHUSTER of Creighon, NE (1844-1904). The probate court never found any of them, and the probate case was still open when I studied it in Yankton, SD in 1979!
I have identified Ada BROWN - she was by 1900 a «widowed» laundress in Chicago, IL - 49 years old and born Norway in June of 1852(!). She was actually in a common-law union with Samuel H. BROWN, a man «of color», a native of Cincinnati, OH, residing with Anna as a lodger in 1900. Ada died at a retirement home (Lutheran charity) at Norwood Park, IL May 9, 1922. She had no children.
I am fairly convinced Ada must be identical to Anna, thus giving us a good «match» for Eva WILSON being Ingrid! Her age is also «perfect»!
But what happened to Ingrid "Eva" WILSON and her daughter Lilly??? Where was Eva in 1870 and after 1880?
The 1882 Chicago city directory shows one Mrs. Eva Wilson housing on 450 State
The 1878 Chicago city directory shows one E. J. Wilson, widow of John, housing on 490 N State
The 1878 Chicago city directory shows one Ray B. Wilson, laundry, housing on 417 State
Lilly WILSON was in school in 1880 - does anyone have experience with public school records in Chicago, IL from the 1880-time frame?
I would be the happiest man on earth if someone can manage to help me locate Ingrid "Eva" WILSON and her daughter Lilly!
Thanks a million in advance!
Very sincerely yours, |
Lars E. Oyane |
Edited by - loyane on 16/04/2021 18:49:06 |
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loyane
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Posted - 16/04/2021 : 19:53:09
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Dear Listers,
I forgot to add the following:
Anna Pedersdotter Oyane, born in 1847, left home at a young age, and she has been located in Decorah, IA where she was confirmed in 1867 at the age of 20:
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/60722/images/41742_314970-00402?treeid=&personid=&hintid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=tjT5214&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&_ga=2.8966973.949893450.1570439604-1181314576.1378904841&pId=4241226
Maybe she married in Iowa as well? The family emigrated in 1860 to Freeman township, Crawford Co., WI, where we find the parents in the 1880 census (name was misinterpreted by ancestry as ARNI):
ORNI, Peder E 66 Nor Nor Nor farmer (born June 5, 1814)
ORNI, Anna 58 Nor Nor Nor wife - keeping house (born Nov. 4, 1820)
ORNI, John 18 WI Nor Nor son (born Apr. 25, 1862)
ORNI, Anna 24 (29?) Nor Nor Nor daughter - servant
Anna («Ada») was still at home, but two other daughters Christine (born Norway Oct. 3, 1858) and Ellen Marie (born WI July 28, 1866) are missing as well as Ingrid «Eva» - who was already in Chicago, IL!
Maybe someone can find this family in the 1870 census?
Thanks again for all suggestions!
Very sincerely yours, |
Lars E. Oyane |
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AntonH
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Posted - 16/04/2021 : 20:49:16
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Perhaps a little correction is needed here Lars. The person confirmed in 1867 is Ingri Pedersdatter not Anna. I assume you mean " Ingrid, born in Luster Co., Norway Feb. 21, 1847" from your original post.
Ingri Pedersdatter
in the U.S., Evangelical Lutheran Church in America Church Records, 1781-1969
Name: Ingri Pedersdatter
Record Type: Confirmation
Birth Date: 16 Mar 1847
Confirmation Date: 2 May 1867
Father: Peder Eriksensind
Mother: Anna Kristoffersdr
Church Name: Decorah Norwegian Evangelical Lutheran
Church Location: Decorah, Iowa
https://ibb.co/3hyNC97 |
Edited by - AntonH on 16/04/2021 20:54:57 |
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AntonH
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loyane
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Posted - 17/04/2021 : 00:11:19
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Dear Listers!
Thank you very much, lyndal40, for your great comments.
Yes, it was a «typo» from my side. Ingrid is the one who was confirmed in Decorah, IA.
As far as the topic from Digitalarkivet is concerned, I have to say, I first THOUGHT Anna had become Eva, while Ingrid was Ada Brown. However, it is quite clear it's the other way around. Anna «Ada» was still at home in WI in 1880, while Ingrid «Eva» was already in Chicago, IL. I presume Anna «Ada» moved in with Ingrid «Eva» when she moved to Chicago in the early 1880's...
Or, maybe not? The 1882 Chicago, IL city directory which has Eva Wilson housing on 450 State, also shows
* Miss Anna Owen, milliner on 146 S. Robey
* Miss Annie Owens, notions (whatever that means?) on 152 17th
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/2469/images/4713186?treeid=&personid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Nzx25056&_phstart=successSource&pId=368640938
I cannot see anyone in the 1880 census from Chicago «matching» any of these girls...!
In 1900 Anna «Ada» Brown is a laundress on 3030 South Dearborn on the south side, with all colored neighbors:
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/7602/images/4113703_00185?usePUB=true&_phsrc=Nzx25068&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=10160566
In the 1887 Chicago city directory we find an Ada Brown, widow of Charles residing on 3002 South Dearborn - that's just 240 feet away from «our» Ada's residence in 1900!
https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/2469/images/4732201?treeid=&personid=&usePUB=true&_phsrc=Nzx25077&_phstart=successSource&pId=372656470
With Ada living 1900 on the south side with a single lodger Samuel Brown (who in 1860 is said to be a «mulatto»), I suspect Charles Brown, IF he was «our» Ada's husband, may have been a brother? Why else would Ada live on the south side??
This family is indeed a «challenge», but any suggestions would be just great!
Thanks a million!
Very sincerely yours, |
Lars E. Oyane |
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AntonH
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Posted - 17/04/2021 : 00:19:22
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quote:
notions
My mother worked at the notions counter at the Ben Franklin Store in the 1960's. So I became quite familiar with the objects for sale. Here is a definition.
"In sewing and haberdashery, notions are small objects or accessories, including items that are sewn or otherwise attached to a finished article, such as buttons, snaps, and collar stays. Notions also include the small tools used in sewing, such as needles, thread, pins, marking pens, elastic, and seam rippers."
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loyane
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Posted - 17/04/2021 : 11:51:41
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Dear lyndal40 and other Listers!
Thank you very much for «clearing up» the notions expressions! But whether «my» Anna is one of the two, still remains a good question...
Indeed this is a strange and challenging family! I am quite «intreagued» about that Ada, widow of Charles Brown, who shows up in 1887!
Thanks again for all suggestions!
Very sincerely yours, |
Lars E. Oyane |
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/04/2021 : 01:40:36
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Ada Brown
in the Cook County, Illinois, U.S., Deaths Index, 1878-1922Name: Ada Brown
[Ada Owens]
Birth Date: abt 1847
Birth Place: Norway
Death Date: 9 May 1922
Death Place: Norwood Park, Cook, Illinois
Burial Date: 11 May 1922
Cemetery Name: Mt Olivet
Death Age: 75
Occupation: Domestic
Race: White
Marital status: Widowed
Gender: Female
Street Address: 3506 Federal St
Father Name: Peter Owens
Father Birth Place: Norway
Mother Name: Annie
Mother Birth Place: Norway
Spouse Name: Sam H Brown
FHL Film Number: 1276287
1922
Ada Brown
in the Illinois, U.S., Deaths and Stillbirths Index, 1916-1947
Name: Ada Brown
[Ada Owses]
Birth Date: abt 1847
Birth Place: Norway
Death Date: 9 May 1922
Death Place: Norwood Park Chicago State Hospital, Illinois
Burial Date: 11 May 1922
Cemetery Name: Mt. Olive
Death Age: 75
Occupation: Domestic
Race: White
Marital status: W
Gender: Female
Street Address: 3506 Federal
Father Name: Peter Owses
Father Birth Place: Norway
Mother Name: Annie
Mother Birth Place: Norway
Spouse Name: Sam H. Brown
FHL Film Number: 1570832
https://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=2542&h=547150&indiv=try&o_vc=Record:OtherRecord&rhSource=2552 |
Edited by - AntonH on 18/04/2021 01:44:01 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 18/04/2021 : 01:52:28
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The birth year is a little off but I suspect that this is Ada in the 1920 Census.
Ada L Brown
in the 1920 United States Federal Census
Name: Ada L Brown
Age: 76
Birth Year: abt 1844
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1920: Chicago Ward 2, Cook (Chicago), Illinois
Street: Federal Street
House Number: 3506
Residence Date: 1920
Race: White
Gender: Female
Relation to Head of House: Head
Marital Status: Widowed
Native Tongue: Norwegian
Able to Speak English: Yes
Occupation: None
Home Owned or Rented: Rented
Naturalization Status: Naturalized
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: 1
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Edited by - AntonH on 18/04/2021 01:56:16 |
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loyane
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Posted - 18/04/2021 : 02:02:24
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Dear lyndal40 and other listers!
Thank you very much for your latest message!
Yes, you have the «right» Ada in 1920, still residing in an entirely «colored» neighborhood!
Now I see where I got the thought that Samuel H. Brown was indeed Anna «Ada»'s «partner». He shows up in her death certificate as such.
And now I wonder: Someone once told me that marriages between black and white were unlawful in the state of Illinois until a certain date. Do you know anything about that?
It would sure have been nice to find Sam and Ada in the 1910 census! I have looked for them several times, but always come up with no finds!
Thanks again for your wonderful assistance in this matter!
Very sincerely yours, |
Lars E. Oyane |
Edited by - loyane on 18/04/2021 02:07:20 |
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loyane
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Posted - 18/04/2021 : 02:13:54
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Dear Listers!
I forgot to add: Ada Brown was in 1920 residing on 3506 Federal Street, and that's exactly where Samuel died in 1919:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N7Q7-RG6
So they always lived together as husband and wife, but where are they in 1910??
Thanks again!
Very sincerely yours, |
Lars E. Oyane |
Edited by - loyane on 18/04/2021 02:14:26 |
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jkmarler
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loyane
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Posted - 18/04/2021 : 11:37:23
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Dear Jackie and other Listers!
Thank you very much for the latest message regarding the interracial marriages. It is interesting to see that they were allowed from 1874 in Illinois, but apparently it was illegal in most other states until much later!
At any rate, Samuel Brown is always said to «single», so I guess I'll stick with «common-law» marriage or, as the Norwegians would say, «sambuarskap», as far as Anna «Ada» and Samuel are concerned.
According to the 1880 census, Ingrid «Eva» Wilson's deceased husband was Norwegian. Maybe her husband was originally a V(W)ilhelmson?
Thanks again for your great assistance in ths matter!
Very sincerely yours, |
Lars E. Oyane |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 18/04/2021 : 18:42:54
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I'm not sure if this has been posted before or not from the Daily Inter Ocean (Chicago, Illinois) Friday 24 Sept 1869 page col 6 "Married"
"In this city at the rectory of St. Ansgarius church on Wednesday the 22nd inst. by Rev J. Bredberg, Mr Charles Wilson and Miss Ingrid Peterson, both of Chicago."
Jacob Bredberg the minister in the 1870 census:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:M67J-Z5N
Bummer no additional info on marriage:
https://collections.carli.illinois.edu/digital/collection/npu_ansgar/id/731/rec/3
On the same page there is a Samuel Wilson who was listed from Telemarken... |
Edited by - jkmarler on 18/04/2021 20:14:19 |
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loyane
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Posted - 18/04/2021 : 20:37:02
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Dear Jackie!
You are simply fantastic! Thanks a million for that wonderful discovery of Charles Wilson and Ingrid Peterson's marriage!
So they were married by a Swedish Priest at the St. Ansgarius Protestant Episcopal church in Chicago, IL, which suggests that Charles Wilson apparently was a Swede?
These church records seem to have been filmed, but are they available online anywhere? Does anyone know?
https://augustana.pastperfectonline.com/archive/E79B31FA-C13B-4FD5-A6EF-096131479387
The records might have more details about Charles and Ingrid, and there may be records of children?
Could this be «our» Charles Wilson; he left a widow and two children: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/214803773/charles-f-wilson
I am really excited with all of these great discveries and thank you so much for your wonderful assistance!
Very sincerely yours, |
Lars E. Oyane |
Edited by - loyane on 18/04/2021 20:37:55 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 18/04/2021 : 21:01:55
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quote:
Originally posted by loyane
Could this be «our» Charles Wilson; he left a widow and two children: https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/214803773/charles-f-wilson
I am really excited with all of these great discveries and thank you so much for your wonderful assistance!
Very sincerely yours,
From the Chicago Daily Tribune, Sunday 1 Feb 1874 page 4 col 2:
"WILSON--In this city Jan 29 Charles F Wilson, aged 26 years, 5 mos 24 days. Funeral from his residence 195 Sebor St Sunday Feb 1 at 11 o'clock sharp, by cars to Rosehill. Norfolk Va papers please copy."
Part of larger article, this is the section which deals with Charles fighting for his life. The scene is the roof of a building being repaired Chicago Daily Tribune, Friday 30 Jan 1874 page 4 col 3:
"...Yesterday morning about half past 7 Charles Wilson, a brakeman in the employ of the Rock Island railway, wished to use an axe in some part of the work and stepped out on the roof, omitting to tie the rope about him. He had proceeded but a short distance when he felt himself slipping. A passerby in the street also noticed it and called the attention of several people to Wilson. A crowd collected and were compelled to see a fellow-creature meet his death without being able to render the least assistance. He made a gallant struggle for life, and as he felt himself going, he tried to strike his ax into the roof and get a hold thereby stopping himself, but though he tried four different times, he did not succeed, although the crowd below once set up a cheer thinking he had succeeded. When he saw that all hope was gone in that direction, he threw away the ax and tried to catch on the eaves-trough as he went over but it was too slippery and the poor fellow fell a distance of 75 feet striking on the ice below and going clear through into the river. It is needless to say he was instantly killed. His remains were taken to the Morgue and an inquest was held the result being a verdict in accordance with the above facts. Wilson lived at 195 Sebor street. He was 28 years old and leaves a wife and two children in quite destitute circumstances."
Here is the database listing of the inquest for Charles:
WILSON, CHARLES Vol 1 page 296 1/29/1874 1/29/1874
Copies of the inquest proceedings can be ordered.
https://www.ilsos.gov/isairad/cookInquest.do
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