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 Hans Nelson/Kirsti Andersd - Sogndal emigr. 1871?
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loyane
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Germany
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Posted - 01/07/2021 :  00:01:51  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Listers!

I have for many years tried to find the emigration record/passenger list showing this family:

Hans Nilsson (Aasen), born Jostedal Apr. 22, 1842
married in Sogndal Jan. 28, 1867
Kirsti Andersdotter (Kolsete/Ormelseng), born Hafslo May 30, 1845

The couple resided a few years in Sogndal, partly at Kolsete and partly at Gjerde, and had two sons:

* Nils, born in Sogndal Apr. 1, 1869

* Andreas, born in Sogndal Nov. 6, 1870

Hans, Kirsti, Nils and Andreas supposedly emigrated in 1871 or 1872, and Kirsti the mother is believed to have died in Vernon Co.,. WI in 1872 or 1873, possibly in childbirth?

1900 census for Hans Nelson suggests emigration year 1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6SW9-QMX

1900 census for son Nels H. Nelson also suggests emigration year 1871: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-6SW9-QWT

1910 census for son Andrew Nelson suggests emigration year 1872: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GYYV-SQ4R

I would be delighted if anyone can manage to find this passenger record, and I thank you very much in advance for your great assistance!

The death record (or a cemetery stone?) for Kirsti would also be very welcome!

Very sincerely yours,

Lars E. Oyane

Edited by - loyane on 05/07/2021 00:17:30

AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 04/07/2021 :  22:56:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Maybe this guy and his family


Hans Nielsen
in the Canada, Arriving Passengers Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Hans Nielsen
Gender: Male
Arrival Age: 31
Birth Year: abt 1840
Departure Port: Liverpool, England; Londonderry, Ireland
Arrival Date: 24 Sep 1871
Arrival Port: Quebec, Quebec, Canada
Vessel: Nestorian

https://u.cubeupload.com/AntonHagelee/ef0ScreenShot20210704at.png

Nestorian

Edited by - AntonH on 04/07/2021 22:56:59
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 04/07/2021 :  23:05:43  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wife is transcribed as

Kaite Ander Nielsen
in the Canada, Arriving Passengers Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Kaite Ander Nielsen
Gender: Female
Arrival Age: 25
Birth Year: abt 1846
Departure Port: Liverpool, England; Londonderry, Ireland
Arrival Date: 24 Sep 1871
Arrival Port: Quebec, Quebec, Canada
Vessel: Nestorian
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AntonH
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Posted - 04/07/2021 :  23:09:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Probably the 3 year old son

Nuls Hansen
in the Canada, Arriving Passengers Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Nuls Hansen
Gender: Male
Arrival Age: 3
Birth Year: abt 1868
Departure Port: Liverpool, England; Londonderry, Ireland
Arrival Date: 24 Sep 1871
Arrival Port: Quebec, Quebec, Canada
Vessel: Nestorian

The infant

Anders Hansen
in the Canada, Arriving Passengers Lists, 1865-1935
Name: Anders Hansen
Gender: Male
Departure Port: Liverpool, England; Londonderry, Ireland
Arrival Date: 24 Sep 1871
Arrival Port: Quebec, Quebec, Canada
Vessel: Nestorian

Edited by - AntonH on 04/07/2021 23:12:44
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loyane
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Germany
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Posted - 05/07/2021 :  00:17:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Anton and other Listers!

Thanks a million, Anton, for finally solving this emigration question which I have been struggling with for so many years!

Still we are missing the exact date of Kirsti's death in Wisconsin, but that will probably be a real «tough one» to find. At least we now know for sure she was still alive when the ship arrived in September of 1871... Hans was married to his 2nd wife Jane Clark in Vernon Co., WI Dec. 3, 1881, and yet I have never found him in the 1875 state or the 1880 federal census, UNLESS he be identical to one:

Hans Nelson in 1875 Viroqua, WI head of household with 4 males and 1 female: https://www.ancestry.com/imageviewer/collections/1055/images/48361_555788-00442?usePUB=true&_phsrc=Nzx26198&_phstart=successSource&usePUBJs=true&pId=3126299

This may very well be «our» Hans, which suggests Kirsti was still alive at the time and they had another son born in Wisconsin!

What do you think?

Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter!

Very sincerely yours,

Lars E. Oyane
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AntonH
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USA
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Posted - 05/07/2021 :  01:43:41  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This looks like Hans and his two sons in the 1880 Census.

Hans Polson
in the 1880 United States Federal Census
Name: Hans Polson
Age: 41
Birth Date: Abt 1839
Birthplace: Norway
Home in 1880: Viroqua, Vernon, Wisconsin, USA
Dwelling Number: 409
Race: White
Gender: Male
Relation to Head of House: Self (Head)
Marital Status: Widower
Father's Birthplace: Norway
Mother's Birthplace: Norway
Occupation: Farmer
Cannot Read: Yes
Cannot Write: Yes
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members Age Relationship
Hans Polson 41 Self (Head)
Nels Polson
11 Son
Andreas Polson
9 Son

https://www.ancestry.com/discoveryui-content/view/29105828:6742

Edited by - AntonH on 05/07/2021 01:44:01
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AntonH
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Posted - 05/07/2021 :  01:47:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Based on the 1880 Census, I would say the chances are very good that the Hans Nelson in the 1875 Census and the Hans Nelson in the 1880 Census are the same person.

The only issue that I see is that according to the 1875 Census there should be four males in the 1880 Census and there are only the three all from Norway.

But both families live in Viroqua, Vernon, Wiscoins.

Edited by - AntonH on 05/07/2021 02:17:34
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loyane
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Germany
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Posted - 05/07/2021 :  07:51:31  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Dear Anton and other Listers!

This is amazing news! The census taker changed the family name to Polson, which I was far from imagining when I studied the 1880 census before!

This must mean that Kirsti died between 1875 and 1880 as must be the case with a son born in Wisconsin about 1873...

I am very satisfied with this information. No death records seem to be available for Kirsti and her son, but at least we know a little more...

Thanks again, Anton, for your brilliant assistance with this family!

Very sincerely yours,

Lars E. Oyane
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loyane
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Germany
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Posted - 05/07/2021 :  08:44:57  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
WOOPS:

Looking a little closer at the original 1880 census for Viroqua township, Vernon Co., WI I BELIEVE it says NELSON after all for Hans, although the handwriting is hard to read!

What do you think?

Thanks again for your great assistance in this matter!

Very sincerely yours,

Lars E. Oyane
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ToreL
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Norway
842 Posts

Posted - 05/07/2021 :  12:47:37  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by loyane

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Looking a little closer at the original 1880 census for Viroqua township, Vernon Co., WI I BELIEVE it says NELSON after all for Hans, although the handwriting is hard to read!


Image. I agree. First name Nels in line 40 is written very much like the first letters of the family name in the line above.
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