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jkmarler
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 Posted - 21/10/2022 : 06:14:06
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Well, the Marie Olsdatter who died in 1871 was single, never married when she died.
And here is the tree's Marie Olsdatter in the 1865 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01038084000121
born about 1812 in Norderhov
Their marriage #51:
Norderhov kirkebøker, SAKO/A-237/F/Fa/L0009: Ministerialbok nr. 9, 1819-1837, s. 904-905
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070314630090
Also the marriage at familysearch, incorrectly indexed as Gud Marie Olsdatter. Gud is a misread of the abbreviation Gmd "farmer's daughter""
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-13PP-QCGR?cc=4237104&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3A683L-9ZGT
Birth / Baptism of some of the children of Ole Bjornsen Kittelsbye and Marie Olsdatter:
son Ole # 21:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-B3PP-SV9N?cc=4237104
daughter Anne #13 bd here definitely 16 July :
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-13PP-SV7X?cc=4237104
daughter Sisel #3:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-B3PP-SJTR?cc=4237104
daughter Gunnild #16:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHK-Q3PP-SV3N?cc=4237104
son Edebart #21:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-13PP-SVWV?cc=4237104
Marriages of children of Ole Bjornsen Kittelsbye:
daughter Anne Olsdatter Kittelsbye to Nub Eriksen Oppegaardeie
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHK-Q3PP-3J2W?cc=4237104
Daughter Sidsel to Andreas Narveson:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-13PP-3JYQ?cc=4237104
son Ole Olsen Kittelsbye to Mari Halvorsdatter Keev #33:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHK-93PP-QCSR?cc=4237104
And there is more than one Mari Olsdatter Ole Bjornsen couples in Norderhov marriages. Here is another marriage (the birthdates match the tree's more closely but not the farms) # 3 in 1823:
Norderhov kirkebøker, SAKO/A-237/G/Ga/L0003: Klokkerbok nr. I 3 /2, 1814-1876, s. 406-407
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070314610660
Ole Bjornsen in the 1891 census, receiving care from Kittelsby farm:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-L3NT-G9KB-Q?i=8639&cc=4067726&personaUrl=%2Fark%3A%2F61903%2F1%3A1%3ADJR9-21MM
His wife Marie Olsdatter also in 1891 census:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3QHV-L3NT-G9X1-V?i=8640&cc=4067726
The son Ole Olsen Kittelsby's obit from the Minneapolis Tidende 1928:
https://www.nb.no/items/1c4082e8f45f5e21fde7ce3652b9d2b1?page=1&searchText=%22Ole%20Kittelsby%22 |
Edited by - jkmarler on 22/10/2022 11:30:26 |
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jkmarler
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/10/2022 : 07:26:46
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Mari born 1812 in Norderhov:
right page 2nd from bottom Mari daughter of Ole Paulsen Stoveren and Sisel Olsdatter
Norderhov kirkebøker, SAKO/A-237/F/Fa/L0007: Parish register (official) no. 7, 1812-1814, p. 1
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070313660457
Mari daughter of Ole Pungerud? and Maria Christensdatter
Norderhov kirkebøker, SAKO/A-237/F/Fa/L0007: Parish register (official) no. 7, 1812-1814
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070313660456
Left page Mari daughter of Ole Andersen Knaestang and Mari Engebretsdatter
Norderhov kirkebøker, SAKO/A-237/F/Fa/L0007: Parish register (official) no. 7, 1812-1814, p. 8
Quick link: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070313660464
Of these 3 the one who married Ole Bjornsen Kittilsbye is Mari Olsdatter Stovern.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/10/2022 : 13:36:10
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Marriage #51 Erik Nubsen and Guri Christophersdatter, their fathers are Nub (incorrectly indexed as Niels) Andersen and Christopher Tortensen.
Norderhov kirkebøker, SAKO/A-237/F/Fa/L0010: Ministerialbok nr. 10, 1837-1847, s. 347
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20051111050304
Torstensdatter, Torstensen, Torkildsdatter, perhaps Aase and Christopher are related?
#16 Guri daughter of Christopher Torstensen and Ragne Johnsdatter
Norderhov kirkebøker, SAKO/A-237/F/Fa/L0009: Ministerialbok nr. 9, 1819-1837, s. 6-7
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070314620385
One of Guri's faddernes is Anne Marie Torstensdatter Olde,
Before the publication of Ringerikse Slekter, many of the Norderhov farm stories were published in Ringerikes Blad. Here is Oppegaard:
https://www.nb.no/items/5faa5287658ff81b084543d61f3b09d6?page=0&searchText=%22Kittelsby%22 |
Edited by - jkmarler on 22/10/2022 11:45:45 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/10/2022 : 22:09:08
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Norderhov kirkebøker, SAKO/A-237/F/Fa/L0009: Ministerialbok nr. 9, 1819-1837, s. 646-647
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070314620707
Anne's birth /baptism # 106 and her birthdate is 6 July or 16 July not 4 July 1836. I have been unable to find her death at the Washington State Secretary of State digital archives death records. |
Edited by - jkmarler on 21/10/2022 22:13:39 |
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jkmarler
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dylankylesimon
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Posted - 22/10/2022 : 23:37:04
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Hey Jackie! I apologize for being so late, my week has been crazy busy! I like the way you go about your research; a lot of information. However, while I am trying to follow the path, I must ask if you would agree that there are too many Ole's to possibly track down the right one, the grandfather to my Peter Evensen Simon from Marigaard?
Because it certainly looks to me that way, and I don't want to waste your time |
Edited by - dylankylesimon on 23/10/2022 00:03:35 |
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dylankylesimon
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Posted - 23/10/2022 : 00:35:26
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Originally posted by ToreL
Dylan: I think there is no doubt that Peter Evensen Simon was the son of the Even Olsen who died in 1860, and of his wife Marthe Helgesdatter.
What I would like to find better documented, is that this Even Olsen, was the same Even Olsen born April 13, 1815 to Ole Evensen and Aase Tostensdatter. The evidence are in his favor; the estimated year of birth matches and he named his eldest daughter Aase Mathea, his assumed mother's name. He looked like a good candidate when I found him, and still does, but it worries me that no other confirmation has surfaced.
I am with ToreL on this one, that's why I am hesitant.
Let's close this out and pursue a different direction, that of Engebret Evensen, Perhaps we can find descendants in that direction. |
Edited by - dylankylesimon on 23/10/2022 01:01:09 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/10/2022 : 01:20:12
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You want even more. You have six in your tree.(' ')
Although you do have a mystery mam in the 1910 Census.
Kristian Engebretsen
Age/born: 1906-05-23
Place of birth: Norderhov
Listed as a son, but Engebret was dead by then?
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036462005961 |
Edited by - AntonH on 23/10/2022 01:40:54 |
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dylankylesimon
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Posted - 23/10/2022 : 01:42:54
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Originally posted by AntonH
You want even more. You have six in your tree.('')
Although you do have a mystery mam in the 1910 Census.
Kristian Engebretsen
Age/born: 1906-05-23
Place of birth: Norderhov
Listed as a son, but Engebret was dead by then?
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01036462005961
Sorry Anton  - Kristian was, and I don't know where I have the information from, but he was born on 23 May 1906, so he would have been born before Engebret died. However, these six children may be easier to track down than Even. I apologize for all the mess, but I am giving up on Even Olsen. There are just too many.. |
Edited by - dylankylesimon on 23/10/2022 01:43:30 |
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AntonH
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