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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/03/2025 :  05:04:35  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
At Lauritz' baptism, Knut Thorsen is called "skipper" but at his death he is called sofarende only. This newspaper announcement might explain why:
https://www.nb.no/items/ff4174abd14d38f14def7af354b634ab?page=3&searchText=%22jagt%20Marie%22

Here is a newspaper article covering the fate of the Marie:
https://www.nb.no/items/d1170d64f1a8b2e9d1b3db288eb65172?page=1&searchText=%22knud%20thorsen%22

Edited by - jkmarler on 19/03/2025 05:44:41
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jkmarler
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Posted - 19/03/2025 :  05:08:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This is probably Lena in 1930 census, even though birthyear varies:
"United States, Census, 1930", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X4ZD-V24 : Fri Jan 17 20:47:05 UTC 2025), Entry for Ralph C Rufener and Fay Rufener, 1930.
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SherKlz
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Posted - 19/03/2025 :  05:23:21  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you both got your help, I'm heading to bed, you have no idea how much I appreciate it!! I'll look at it all tomorrow!!

Sherry Kuelz
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SherKlz
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Posted - 19/03/2025 :  20:08:28  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thank you for all the info on Lena, wish there were as much on Thore. Guess I've just come to a wall on him and where he's buried, etc

Sherry Kuelz
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AntonH
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Posted - 19/03/2025 :  21:47:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This record fits the name of your great aunt better than Lena but may not get us much further on its own.

Jorina C Thorson
in the U.S., City Directories, 1822-1995
Name Jorina C Thorson
Residence Year 1893
Street Address 316 Green
Residence Place Syracuse, New York, USA
Occupation Domestic
Publication Title Syracuse, New York, City Directory, 1893


https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/2469/records/52192408

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SherKlz
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Posted - 20/03/2025 :  02:08:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
That's interesting.
Could they just have the spelling wrong on the site? (Jorina instead of Jorine)

Sherry Kuelz
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AntonH
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Posted - 20/03/2025 :  02:52:34  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wrong maybe but some one comes around and writes down the name of the person living at that address, then someone else transfer that to printing. Lots of places for error in that process. And changing Jorine to Jorina depends on the pronunciation of the name.

Edited by - AntonH on 20/03/2025 02:53:15
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jkmarler
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Posted - 20/03/2025 :  04:26:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do you have a subscription to Newspapers.com, the Ancestry product? I don't but can search in it and there is at least one paper from Soldiers Grove and Jorine is mentioned at least 3 times, the last is in Lewis' obituary as sister "Jarine" from Warren. She also visited Soldiers Grove in 1948 and there is a "Lena Thorson" mentioned in an issue in 1947.

So why did Lewis end up in that particular spot in Wisconsin?
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SherKlz
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Posted - 20/03/2025 :  04:54:23  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I don't know why my Grandfather ended up there If I remember right, the man he came over with moved there and my grandfather was only 3 years old at the time.
Wish my Mom was still alive so I could think of the guys name.. but it really bothers me that Thore is missing. Unfortunately I don't have a subscription to it. I'm surprised that on the family tree, the articles don't come up. I wonder why.


Found of the name: "3 year old JORINE and 1 year old LAURITZ were raised by EINER PETERSON after their parents' drowned." but everything else I'd found said they were raised separately with Jorine raised with her brother Thore.

Sherry Kuelz

Edited by - SherKlz on 20/03/2025 05:02:36
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SherKlz
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Posted - 20/03/2025 :  05:21:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've been hunting for an obit and can't find one, or the articles, do you have a link to them? or a screen shot.

Sherry Kuelz
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jkmarler
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Posted - 20/03/2025 :  09:05:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've never mastered the art of mounting things to this site. All I get is a snippet of the article. You might just try to see if newspapers.com allows everyone to search.

Einar or Ener Pederson was living with Astri in the 1875 census he would be a 1st cousin to Lauritz, since he is listed as her son. Link is on the first page.

Here is a link to Lewis's naturalization record transcription. Says he came through Quebec in June 1884:
"Wisconsin, County Naturalization Records, 1807-1992", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:D6W2-VV2M : Sun Mar 10 05:13:50 UTC 2024), Entry for Lewis Knutson, 28 May 1921.
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jkmarler
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Posted - 20/03/2025 :  09:22:03  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
There are two articles mentioning an Einar Peterson visiting Louis Knutson once in 1910 and another time in 1930 saying Einar Peterson is visiting Soldiers Grove from a town that starts with B.

Probably this fellow at Boscobel:
"United States, Census, 1930", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X9QF-CVB : Sun Jul 21 02:53:52 UTC 2024), Entry for Einer Peterson and Leonori Peterson, 1930.

He died in 1944 in California, his father is named Peder Erevick on the certificate:
"California, County Birth and Death Records, 1800-1994", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:QGT2-Q1W9 : Tue Feb 18 21:09:19 UTC 2025), Entry for Einar Peterson and Peter Erevik, 20 February 1944.

One of Einar's sons died in Arizona in 1950:
"Arizona Deaths, 1870-1963", , FamilySearch (https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FLVX-L68 : Tue Jan 14 05:05:00 UTC 2025), Entry for Arnold Martin Peterson and Einer Peterson, 05 Apr 1950.

Einar Pederson #9 leaving from Ardal (Hjelmeland) for America in July 1884:
Hjelmeland sokneprestkontor, AV/SAST-A-101843/01/IV/L0012: Ministerialbok nr. A 12, 1862-1886, s. 265
Brukslenke for sidevisning: https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070220630488

Edited by - jkmarler on 20/03/2025 16:03:00
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SherKlz
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Posted - 20/03/2025 :  19:16:54  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I just found another letter which, at the start, says:

To: Miss Jorine Thorsen
Warren Ohio

(the first paragraph identifies the "Lena" she was writing too)

"At the request of Miss Lena Peterson I am translating from the Norwegian a letter written to you. The letter follows: K.A. Grafton"

(further it says, speaking of "Uncle Lars", the painter)

"He had painted a picture of himself, this was given to your father and mother and, as you know, it went with them to the bottom of the sea."

My great grandparents are the ones who drowned.

The 2nd letter says, in part:

"Christmas in my son's house. I had a lovely time - they have two sweet children, the boy is 12, and the girl is nine. They both sing in the Vestal choir in church. Sigurd paints and is highly respected man, doesn't smoke or drink. He could have been a rich
man, and he is liberal - but kind and industrious-his health is not good - the automatic gas sprayer is destructive of this health.

I am sending more pictures of Sigurd and his family as of the daughter's of Alith. Sister Alith died one month before Sievert died December 19. 1936. Alith's daughter bought Mother's house had bought it of my Mother. Ronang is a widow and her daughter Eve married into the Jose family - her husband's father is a millionaire. Ronang was home for three months and was all the time at Cisa's, the daughter of Alith. She was at her daughter's (Eve) house for Sunday dinner only Ronang loves her native city but her home is in Oslo.

She has a son who is grown, Wilhelm by name. He is said to be much like his mother, Poor Ronang she was used to live like a queen."

I'm still searching, thank you for the links, they're amazing, Oh and Einar is the one my Grandfather came over with!!

Sherry Kuelz

Edited by - SherKlz on 20/03/2025 19:18:25
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jkmarler
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Posted - 20/03/2025 :  20:43:00  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Alith is the first name of several in Cecile Ommunds. family see the 1875 census. Here is Alith in the 1920 census:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01073935030501

Edited by - jkmarler on 20/03/2025 20:48:46
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SherKlz
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Posted - 20/03/2025 :  20:43:26  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I did find these but can't look at them without paying and though her name is misspelled "Jarine" as mentioned, I do a search and find nothing on her, and my grandfather is listed as a sibling. When I do use Find A Grave, nothing is ever found. They misspelled my grandfather's name as "Sime Lauritz Knutson". I can find his on "Find A Grave" but not Jorine, and with my Grandfather, neither sibling is mentioned.

Sherry Kuelz

Edited by - SherKlz on 20/03/2025 21:28:57
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