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1psuviking
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Posted - 11/01/2005 :  21:46:38  Show Profile  Reply with Quote


My father, FINN GUNNAR JOHANNESSEN was born in Tonsberg, Norway. His father was Kristian Johannessen who I believe was born in Bergen, but KRISTIAN was also known to have been in the Haugesund area. Kristian was a seaman and my father never knew him. Well he saw him once when he was 12 in a train station. Kristian was also thought to be in the Norwegian Navy back in the day. My fathers mother Gerda Linea Vikburg was born on 4/4/10 and died in 1992. She was married to a guy named Leif Steen Hansen and he died in 1988. Finn Gunnar, my father landed in Philadelphia, Pa. back in 1952. My Dad - Finn Gunnar has been married 3 times and has 6 kids here in the states. Today we range in ages from 38-58. I am now 43, but I must say I am the most Norwegian out of all 6 kids. I am also the one that seems to care about his ethnic heritage when the others could care less. Well that is their loss. I hope to make it to Norway someday soon and visit the graves of my ancestors.

Thanks....

1psuviking in South Jersey.... USA!

Nils K. Johannessen

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1psuviking
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Posted - 26/01/2012 :  01:10:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Wow! I remember posting this! Still looking for more additional information on KRISTIAN JOHANNESSEN. His last known address was Fromveinen 11A, 5500 Haugesund, Norway. The last contact from this address was December 9, 1981. Anyone with known whereabouts of his family or his relatives would be greatly appreciated. He was born in Bergen, Norway thinks my Dad and was also in the Norwegian Navy. I have found more information on my grandmothers mother and father, Karl August Wilhelm Wikberg. Also Gurine Hansen, then she was Wikberg or "VIKBERG". Karl was apparently liked having kids! It appears he had 9 of them with 3 different women! So he was my great grandfather, born 1870 and died in 1952.

Crazy stuff!! But hope to find relatives of all related. I love Norway and really do embrace my ethnic background. It's no wonder I am 1st generation Norwegian American yet I know so little about my families past. I am the only one out of my Dad's 6 kids to really care about where we came from. Thank God I have an interest and will no doubt find out all I can about my ancestors and pass down what I can. Even if eveyone doesn't really care, which I think is SAD and pathetic. But hey that is just me.

Check this link out!! Any help.. much appreciated. Tusen Takk!!!

Alt for Norge!!!

http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=no&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.disnorge.no%2Fslektsforum%2Fviewtopic.php%3Ft%3D43179

Nils K. Johannessen
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jkmarler
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Posted - 26/01/2012 :  02:06:20  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A little bit maybe of interest, copied from DIS gravminner site:

3574873 Elvira Vikberg
resident of Røvik, Fauske
b. 2312 1900 Rindal, Møre og Romsdal
d. 2909 1919
buried 0710 1919 k Gravminne mangler 14
cemetery: Fauske øvre Fauske

Alex Wikberg at DIS gravminner:
http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/bilde.php?id=2658087

Agnes Wikberg (Wikberg in the index, not on the stone):
http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/bilde.php?id=3578921

Dagney Evenia (again Wikberg in the index, not on the stone):
http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/bilde.php?id=3578551

There might be a couple more for you there which might mean more for you to look for yourself:
http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner

Also if you input Wikberg at www.rootsweb.com you will find 179 references in various submitted family history database. Although didn't see your names in particular most appear to be from Sweden and so may ultimately be related to you.

Edited by - jkmarler on 26/01/2012 02:45:07
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eibache
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Posted - 26/01/2012 :  10:10:36  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The baptismal record for your grandmother says she was named Gerda Linea Evlalia, see #12
Kildeinformasjon: Nordland fylke, Fauske, Ministerialbok nr. 849A08 (1898-1910), Fødte og døpte 1910, side 148.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=39634&idx_id=39634&uid=ny&idx_side=-150.
In the confirmation record it is written Gerda Linea Aulalia, see #42
Kildeinformasjon: Nordland fylke, Fauske i Fauske, Klokkerbok nr. 849C01 (1919-1946), Konfirmerte 1925, side 246.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=39634&idx_id=39634&uid=ny&idx_side=-206.


Einar
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1psuviking
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Posted - 28/01/2012 :  07:02:48  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Tusen takk Einar and JK!

I just got pictures the other day of those headstones. The one new information that I didn't have was the confirmation picture for Gerda Linea Vikburg. That I now have saved. I also just got a picture send to me from a 2nd cousin I just came in contact with over the last 2 days which shows the grave marker for KRISTIAN JOHANNESSEN of Haugesund. She is going to call the church or cemetary on Monday and find out who is taking care of the current gravestone there. Maybe I can get in touch with new family. Also I have applied for the TV SHOW, Great Norway Adventure 3. I think they may call in ALT FOR NORGE there in Norway. Anyway I hope to make it to Norway in 2012 and hope the Norwegian people support should I make it. I have received postive feedback from the casting company. Now it's just a wait and see if I get a serious call for the reality show!

Now the main focus is finding out more about KRISTIAN JOHANNESSEN or any existing relatives he stil has there in Haugesund. I desperately would like to find out. I live in NEW JERSEY, USA. but would like to move to Norway someday if the right situation presents itself. I am 43 years old. Never married.. no kids. Never say Never!!!

I have an extensive sales background as well as working in landscaping, lawn care, etc. I would love to work on a golf course or do something with the National Parks. Anyone have an idea on what would be best if interested in applying for a work visa, etc? I just have no idea where to begin that entire process.

http://www.disnorge.no/gravminner/bilde.php?id=120651

ALT FOR NORGE!!!! :)


Nils K. Johannessen

Edited by - 1psuviking on 28/01/2012 07:07:21
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eibache
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Posted - 28/01/2012 :  07:22:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
My father, FINN GUNNAR JOHANNESSEN was born in Tonsberg, Norway. His father was Kristian Johannessen who I believe was born in Bergen.
- some dates would be valuable.

Einar
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1psuviking
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Posted - 28/01/2012 :  17:48:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The last link I posted in my profile.... above ALT FOR NORGE!!!!! Lists my grandfathers grave marker. KRISTIAN JOHANNESSEN. He was born on October 6, 1906 and he died on April 7, 1987. He was possibly born in Bergen and also in the Norwegian Navy. He was married to a woman named ERNA L. JOHANNESSEN. They probably left behind some family in the Haugesund area where my grandfather is buried.

My father FINN GUNNAR JOHANNESSEN was born in Tonsberg, Norway on June 11, 1931. His half sister LAILA JOHANNESSEN was born on September 13, 1932.

Both have a guy listed by the name of ARTHUR GEORG JOHANNESSEN listed on their BIRTH or Baptismal certifcates, but only ARTHUR was a TRUE or BIOLOGICAL father to LAILA. My fathers' father... KRISTIAN JOHANNESSEN was a seamen and went back to sea. Not sure exactly why the courtship ended between ARTHUR GEORGE and my grandmother, GERDA LINEA VIKBERG.

Tusen takk!! Haugesund and people there hold the key!!!

ALT FOR NORGE!!!

Nils K. Johannessen

Edited by - 1psuviking on 28/01/2012 17:52:09
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jkmarler
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Posted - 28/01/2012 :  18:13:46  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Hi,

The 1910 Norwegian census has a Kristian with the birthdate of 6 Oct 1906 but he is neither a Johannessen nor born Bergen:

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036472008158

Flipping the date from 6 Oct to 10 June finds an Osvald Kristian Johansen:

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036935005792

Jackie M.

Edited by - jkmarler on 28/01/2012 18:17:06
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1psuviking
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Posted - 28/01/2012 :  20:09:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by jkmarler

Hi,

The 1910 Norwegian census has a Kristian with the birthdate of 6 Oct 1906 but he is neither a Johannessen nor born Bergen:

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036472008158

Flipping the date from 6 Oct to 10 June finds an Osvald Kristian Johansen:

http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036935005792

Jackie M.




Tusen takk Jackie!! :)

That looks like that could be his family. How would he then get the last name of Johannessen? A little confused on that one.

takk!

Nils K. Johannessen
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eibache
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Posted - 28/01/2012 :  23:48:53  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
A candidate would be #114
Kildeinformasjon: Bergen fylke, Korskirken, Ministerialbok nr. B 9 (1899-1908), Fødte og døpte 1906, side 242.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=312&idx_id=312&uid=ny&idx_side=-244

In the 1910 census his birth date 06.08.1906 is wrong, birth/bapt record says 06.10.1906
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036707001314

Further investigations needed to get proof.

Einar
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1psuviking
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Posted - 29/01/2012 :  02:37:10  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by eibache

A candidate would be #114
Kildeinformasjon: Bergen fylke, Korskirken, Ministerialbok nr. B 9 (1899-1908), Fødte og døpte 1906, side 242.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=312&idx_id=312&uid=ny&idx_side=-244

In the 1910 census his birth date 06.08.1906 is wrong, birth/bapt record says 06.10.1906
http://digitalarkivet.arkivverket.no/ft/person/pf01036707001314

Further investigations needed to get proof.




We might have something here!! Funny since my name is Nils Johannessen and that could be the name of my great grandfather on my fathers side?!?! Which makes it even more coincidental is that my father FINN GUNNAR only knew that his fathers name was KRISTIAN. Hence my middle name. I don't think that he knew that his fathers name was NILS. IF>>> IF... that is the right KRISTIAN and family , etc.

Tusen takk!!!!

Nils K. Johannessen
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jkmarler
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Posted - 29/01/2012 :  03:41:11  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
It would be an excellent find!

Just for the sake of curiosity, how did you come to have the birthdate for your Kristian?
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eibache
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Posted - 29/01/2012 :  05:42:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Kristians oldest siblings were the twins Nils Johan #11 Kildeinformasjon: Bergen fylke, Korskirken, Klokkerbok nr. B 10 (1896-1905), Fødte og døpte 1897, side 26.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1967&idx_id=1967&uid=ny&idx_side=-26 and Gulborg Marie #19 Kildeinformasjon: Bergen fylke, Korskirken, Klokkerbok nr. B 10 (1896-1905), Fødte og døpte 1897, side 27.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=1967&idx_id=1967&uid=ny&idx_side=-27.

Astrid #19 was older Kildeinformasjon: Bergen fylke, Korskirken, Ministerialbok nr. B 8 (1889-1899), Fødte og døpte 1894, side 132.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=7125&idx_id=7125&uid=ny&idx_side=-131.


Einar

Edited by - eibache on 29/01/2012 06:36:18
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1psuviking
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Posted - 29/01/2012 :  06:19:59  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I got my middle name because my father knew his real fathers name was Kristian. He certainly didn't know his grandfathers name was NILS! He only met or saw Kristian once in a train station at the age of 12. I just got off the phone with him a little while ago and filled him in. I told him it looks pretty good except the CENSUS has the wrong birthdate of Kristian. Everything else seems to match up between the Census and Baptismal information.

Einar.. those last 2 arkives... I assume that was the baptismals of both Nils Johan and Gulborg Marie? I wish I could read the handwriting a little better. I can tell the names of the parents but that is about it. Who knew I was named after my great grandfather and I didn't know it and either did my father. Amazing!!!

I assume you guys are in Norway? Thanks again so much for your help and anything you can add is greatly appreciated.

Alt for Norge! Sov godt.

Nils K. Johannessen
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eibache
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Posted - 29/01/2012 :  10:08:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
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Einar.. those last 2 arkives... I assume that was the baptismals of both Nils Johan and Gulborg Marie?
yes they were born Dec 18 1896, baptized Febr 14 1897, parents bricklayer Nils Johan Johannesen and wife Hermanda Marie Rasmussen.

Hermanda Marie, see #57 Kildeinformasjon: Bergen fylke, Korskirken, Klokkerbok nr. B 6 (1869-1874), Fødte og døpte kvinner 1872, side 186.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8350&idx_id=8350&uid=ny&idx_side=-127 was born April 15, baptized May 12 1872. Her parents were Andreas Rasmussen 37 years old and Gjertke Berntine Sivertsen 31 years old.
See 1975 census http://digitalarkivet.no/cgi-win/webcens.exe?slag=visbase&sidenr=12&filnamn=f71301&gardpostnr=27529&merk=27529#ovre.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 29/01/2012 10:22:01
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eibache
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Posted - 29/01/2012 :  15:38:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Andreas Rasmussen, born Nov 4 1835 and Gjerte Berentine Sivertsen, born Aug 8 1840 were married May 10 1863, see left page Andreas Rasmussen 37 years old and Gjertke Berntine Sivertsen.

The baptismal record for Andreas is #51
Kildeinformasjon: Hordaland fylke, Askøy, Ministerialbok nr. A 4 (1825-1845), Fødte og døpte menn 1836, side 95.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8604&idx_id=8604&uid=ny&idx_side=-98.
His parents were Rasmus Christophersen and Ane M Ellengsdatter at øvre Kleppe.

The baptismal record for Gjerke Bertine is #83
Kildeinformasjon: Bergen fylke, Korskirken, Ministerialbok nr. B 1 (1833-1841), Fødte og døpte kvinner 1840, side 282.
Permanent sidelenke: http://www.arkivverket.no/URN:kb_read?idx_kildeid=8685&idx_id=8685&uid=ny&idx_side=-285.
Her parents were Sivert Martinus Olsen and Hougine Pedersdatter.

Einar

Edited by - eibache on 29/01/2012 15:41:36
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