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ToreL
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 Posted - 20/05/2021 : 23:04:17
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| There is another Østereide family in a passenger list from 1870. (#140-144) The father, Gjert Larsen, is almost certainly a brother of Tore Larsen (b. 1825) and Lars Larsen (b. 1846). Gjert was born at Stueland in 1836. (#8) This family lived with Gjert's inlaws at Hjelmeland in 1865, but according to Ølen bygdebook they moved to Østre Eio/Eide in Ølen already the next year, where the two younger children were born in 1866 and 1869. According to Ølen bygdebook, they emigrated in 1870. |
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AntonH
Norway Heritage Veteran
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Posted - 21/05/2021 : 00:31:42
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Probably Gjert and Joran.
George Larson
in the Iowa, U.S., State Census Collection, 1836-1925
Name: George Larson
Age: 59
Birth Year: abt 1836
Birth Place: Norway
Residence Date: 1895
Residence Place: Lincoln, Winnebago, Iowa, USA
Race: White
Gender: Male
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members:
Name Age
George Larson 59
Jurine Larson 52
Lewis Larson 21
Albert Larson 19
Joseph Larson 17
Tina Larson 12
Nellie Larson 10
George Larson
in the U.S., Find a Grave Index, 1600s-Current
Name: George Larson
Birth Date: 1836
Death Date: 1919
Cemetery: West Cemetery
Burial or Cremation Place: Rake, Winnebago County, Iowa, United States of America
Has Bio?: N
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/198386119/george-larson
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/198386104/joren-larson |
Edited by - AntonH on 21/05/2021 00:33:58 |
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jkmarler
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cdahl
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Posted - 21/05/2021 : 21:34:39
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| Thank you for these last messages. I did not have Gjert Larsson in the Lars T. Stuland and Britte Jonsdotter family! It has been interesting to me that Gjert (George) Larson emigrated to the USA in 1870 and after spending some time in Illinois moved to northern Iowa and remained the rest of his life. He is buried in the West Cemetery, Rale, Iowa which is only about 8 miles from where we live. In fact, I knew George's grandson. He has passed away several years ago. But, a small world. Thank you for finding this person for me, BUT, I do think that Lars and Britte just fell off the face of the earth! I did find the marriage of their daughter, Anna, who married a Lars Larson in Grundy Co., Ill. in 1892. Although Lars's and Martha's names are listed as parents I cannot find any information on them in the states. Thank you again! |
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ToreL
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Posted - 21/05/2021 : 23:18:09
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| Hm, your mention of Grundy County, Ill, caught my eye. There is a naturaliztion record for one Lars T. Stueland there in 1884. I didn't consider it very significant at first -- there are other Stuelands around -- but your new reference makes it more interesting. Perhaps you could post some link or similar for the marriage you mention? |
Edited by - ToreL on 21/05/2021 23:19:42 |
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jkmarler
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Posted - 21/05/2021 : 23:41:27
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LARSON, LARS LARSON, ANNA CECILIA 1892-03-26 6688 GRUNDY
STUELAND, LARS T NATTEBERG, ANNA J 1890-01-29 001 0139 00004173 FORD
STUELAND, SAMSON J HORNER, MALENE M 1887-08-26 001 0112 00003818 FORD
PETERSON, STEPHEN S STUELAND, ANNA 1889-08-15 001 0134 00004099 FORD
JOHNSON, HENRY STUELAND, CARRIE T 1879-09-04 4692 GRUNDY
JORSTAD, PETER J STUELAND, MARY 1891-01-18 001 0151 00004325 FORD
Pre 1916 deaths in Illinois:
STUELAND, LARS T 1908-02-11 CHICAGO 45 YR U 00016627 COOK |
Edited by - jkmarler on 22/05/2021 00:12:42 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/05/2021 : 05:54:52
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Lars T. Stueland
1862–1908
BIRTH 07 APR 1862 • Kvinnherad, Hordaland, Norway
DEATH 11 FEB 1908 • Chicago, Cook, Illinois, USA
Anna Hatteberg Stueland Sampson
1870–1946
BIRTH 25 AUG 1870 • Kvinnherad, Hordaland, Norway
DEATH 17 NOV 1946 • Kanawha, Hancock, Iowa, USA
Lars T. Stueland
in the Illinois, U.S., County Marriage Records, 1800-1940
Name: Lars T. Stueland
Gender: Male
Age: 27
Birth Date: abt 1863
Marriage Date: 29 Jan 1890
Marriage Place: Elliott, Ford, Illinois, USA
Father: Tho... Stueland
Mother: Marie Auvig
Spouse: Anna J. Hatteberg
Film Number: 001401877
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/106999588/thor-stueland
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ToreL
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Posted - 22/05/2021 : 11:53:42
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The Stueland matches above seem to fit another family that emigrated in 1870. Just enter surname Stueland at the passenger search at this site:
167 Thore Larsen Stueland 42 m residence Kvindherred
168 Marie !! Stueland 38 f wife* residence Kvindherred*
169 Kari Thoresdatter Stueland 10 f daughter* residence Kvindherred*
170 Lars Thoresen Stueland* 7 m son* residence Kvindherred*
171 Samson Thoresen Stueland* 5 m son* residence Kvindherred*
172 Anne Thoresdatter Stueland* 2 f daughter* residence Kvindherred*
173 Mariane Thoresdatter* Stueland* ½ f daughter* residence Kvindherred*
But this is strange; I can find no Tore Larsen at Kvinnherad born just a few years after Carol's (husband's?) ancestror Tore Larsen, born 1825. On the other hand, there is one Tore Samsonsen, who fits rather well. Here he is with family at Stueland in the 1865 census:
001 Thore Samsonsen 01 39 Kvindherred Prgj. - Husfader g Gdbr Selveier
002 Mari Larsdatter 01 34 Kvindherred Prgj. - hans Kone g -
003 Lars Thorsen 01 4 Kvindherred Prgj. - deres Søn ug -
004 Samson Thorsen 01 1 Kvindherred Prgj. - deres Søn ug -
005 Kari Thorsdatter 01 7 Kvindherred Prgj. - deres Datter ug -
006 Samson Thorsen 02 68 Kvindherred Prgj. - hans Fader g Føderaadsmand
007 Anna Jensdatter 02 62 Kvindherred Prgj. - hans Moder g Føderaadskone
My guess is that his 68 years old (in 1865) father Samson Thorsen is an older brother of the Lars Thorsen who emigrated in 1871, 71 years old. |
Edited by - ToreL on 22/05/2021 15:33:54 |
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AntonH
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/05/2021 : 20:55:15
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In America Thore used almost exclusively the name Thor or Thore Stueland, so the error did not show up. However in one record he is listed as Thor S Stueland.
Thor S Stueland
in the U.S., Naturalization Record Indexes, 1791-1992 (Indexed in World Archives Project)
Name: Thor S Stueland
Birth Place: Sweden; Norway
Court District: Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin, Iowa
Date of Action: 31 Oct 1885
He was born on 30 Jan 1827. Father was Samson Thorsen and mother was Anna Jensdatter.
Nr. 15
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/kb20070510660580
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Edited by - AntonH on 22/05/2021 21:02:44 |
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AntonH
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Posted - 22/05/2021 : 21:08:56
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The Ancestry.com family trees I have looked at also have the error of his name, but do have the right parents. It should have been noted that a son of Samson Thoresen Stueland should not have had the last name of Larsen.
Here is a short version of one of them.
It seems that all of these families go back to Tore Samsonsen born about 1771.
Lars T Stueland 1862 married Anna Hatteberg
Thore Larsen Stueland 1827 married Marie Larsdatter Omvik
Samson Toresen Stueland 1798 married Anna Jensdatter Roysland
Tore Samsen Stueland 1771 married Anna Larsdatter Lund
1801 Census
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/en/census/person/pf01058374000392
In the 1801 Census the father is also listed
Samson Torsen born about 1731. |
Edited by - AntonH on 22/05/2021 21:17:59 |
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ToreL
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Posted - 22/05/2021 : 21:53:56
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quote:
Originally posted by AntonH
Looks like the transcription for Passenger Lists on Norway Heritage is incorrect.
Looks pretty clear that the person in question was indeed a Thore Samsonsen, but without access to the original passenger list it is hard to say when and where the error sneaked in. The list has also been transcribed by employees at the Norwegian National archives, and the result is the same:
https://www.digitalarkivet.no/view/194/pe00000000349226 |
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jkmarler
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AntonH
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Posted - 23/05/2021 : 01:47:04
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Original passenger list Theresa, name appears to be Larson:
Where do you see Theresa? |
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jkmarler
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Malmanger family
